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Own a Berkey water filter? Might want to re-think using it.

 
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that whole ppm thing is over rated. you only need to care that it filters out bad stuff, not all stuff. turbidity does not make water bad.
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Stick this in your berkey and call it good.


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Are you POSITIVE totally and would stake your life on it that this fits properly into the Berkey?

Bummer news for me, I was counting on my two Berkeys.
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They used to say that the rain water in deer park / Padadena would separate into an oil and a water layer. :) Not sure if they were kidding or not, but it is pretty polluted over there.

I would suggest getting a couple 55 gallon blue water storage barrels and filling them up now, while you have potable water. Put a tbsp of bleach in each one and seal up the bung. You can live a long time off 100 gallons of water if all you are doing is drinking it and washing with a washrag enough to keep from growing barnacles. Some people also can find a food safe ISO container that holds a lot more water. I forget the capacity on them.

That soil over that way would not be too clean. I suppose you could send some off to have it tested.

If you try to collect rainwater, best not use an asphalt tiled roof, because it leaches off a fair amount of hydrocarbons as well. Steel or tile or slate roof, or stretch a poly tarp or an old sailboat sail to catch rainwater? There are clean water acquifers over there, but I think you need a deep well of around 300 feet. Then you hit some very clean water. We had deep well water at a plant on the ship channel and it was clean excellent water. But they had to give it a chlorine and brush treatment every so often to keep the bacteria from growing in it.
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“If you try to collect rainwater, best not use an asphalt tiled roof, because it leaches off a fair amount of hydrocarbons as well.”

Unless the asphalt roof is brand spanking new, it’s not really a problem. Give it a couple of months during the rainy season and it’ll be fine. If one is really fastidious and concerned about possible hydrocarbons in the water, send some of the collected water to an open-top barrel with a draw point a few inches up from the bottom. Give it a couple of days to settle, throw in some alum to remove any larger particulates, then suction off the top inch of water that will contain any hydrocarbon which will have floated to the top. Collect water from the bottom draw point and you’re good to go.
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You might be right. There is a guy that is a self proclaimed water and foods expert on another site and he threw a big fit about people that were planning to use rainwater from asphalt roofs. I had a barrel that collected it for a while. It was pretty disgusting looking water. Shingle material degrades in the harsh Southern sunshine, and the asphalt makes a sludge on the bottom of the barrel, so I think the guy had a valid point.

In an emergency though, if your options are to die of dehydration or drink water with some hydrocarbon in it, of course everyone would drink the water even if it was nasty.

But probably should not be part of anyone's plan A or Plan B.

But to each his own. I just come on here to try and help people out.
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Well, I’ve been using water catchment off an asphalt-shingled roof for almost 2 decades now, and while you do get some debris off the shingles in the form of tiny pebbles and a few fibers, the water’s fine otherwise. If we get a cloudburst after an extended dry period, I throw some alum into the barrels, which acts as a flocculant, which adheres to and then drops any particulate matter to the bottom. I pre-filter it, then send it through either a Berkey with the white ceramic filters or a Sawyer drip filter.
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I haven't tried it. If it works for you, more power to you.
This other guy was pretty well versed on the subject and he was going nuts when it was suggested. If it tastes OK after you put it through some sort of respectable filter, then you probably are not in too much peril. :)

Still not sure I would make that my plan A. If I have to catch water, I have my old dacron sails that I would rig up somehow to catch rainwater.
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Thank you OP
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What fukking stupid degenerates these peasants are, lol.
10s of Billions of gallons of drinking water per day is converted form oceans on a planet using RO. And these degenerate stupid peasants do not “believe” in it, hahahah.

Billionaires have used republicans because they are inbred degenerates, first degraded them more, then used these peasant scum to destroy America, case closed. All republicans must be annihilated, and half of all democrats.
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I told you guys those Berkley's were pieces of shit.

I had one.

Fucking thing SUCKS.

The way the filters mount in there causes them to leak at the seals.
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Haven't had that issue myself.
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They used to say that the rain water in deer park / Padadena would separate into an oil and a water layer. :) Not sure if they were kidding or not, but it is pretty polluted over there.

I would suggest getting a couple 55 gallon blue water storage barrels and filling them up now, while you have potable water. Put a tbsp of bleach in each one and seal up the bung. You can live a long time off 100 gallons of water if all you are doing is drinking it and washing with a washrag enough to keep from growing barnacles. Some people also can find a food safe ISO container that holds a lot more water. I forget the capacity on them.

That soil over that way would not be too clean. I suppose you could send some off to have it tested.

If you try to collect rainwater, best not use an asphalt tiled roof, because it leaches off a fair amount of hydrocarbons as well. Steel or tile or slate roof, or stretch a poly tarp or an old sailboat sail to catch rainwater? There are clean water acquifers over there, but I think you need a deep well of around 300 feet. Then you hit some very clean water. We had deep well water at a plant on the ship channel and it was clean excellent water. But they had to give it a chlorine and brush treatment every so often to keep the bacteria from growing in it.
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“If you try to collect rainwater, best not use an asphalt tiled roof, because it leaches off a fair amount of hydrocarbons as well.”

Unless the asphalt roof is brand spanking new, it’s not really a problem. Give it a couple of months during the rainy season and it’ll be fine. If one is really fastidious and concerned about possible hydrocarbons in the water, send some of the collected water to an open-top barrel with a draw point a few inches up from the bottom. Give it a couple of days to settle, throw in some alum to remove any larger particulates, then suction off the top inch of water that will contain any hydrocarbon which will have floated to the top. Collect water from the bottom draw point and you’re good to go.
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You might be right. There is a guy that is a self proclaimed water and foods expert on another site and he threw a big fit about people that were planning to use rainwater from asphalt roofs. I had a barrel that collected it for a while. It was pretty disgusting looking water. Shingle material degrades in the harsh Southern sunshine, and the asphalt makes a sludge on the bottom of the barrel, so I think the guy had a valid point.

In an emergency though, if your options are to die of dehydration or drink water with some hydrocarbon in it, of course everyone would drink the water even if it was nasty.

But probably should not be part of anyone's plan A or Plan B.

But to each his own. I just come on here to try and help people out.
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Well, I’ve been using water catchment off an asphalt-shingled roof for almost 2 decades now, and while you do get some debris off the shingles in the form of tiny pebbles and a few fibers, the water’s fine otherwise. If we get a cloudburst after an extended dry period, I throw some alum into the barrels, which acts as a flocculant, which adheres to and then drops any particulate matter to the bottom. I pre-filter it, then send it through either a Berkey with the white ceramic filters or a Sawyer drip filter.
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QUESTION: I throw some alum into the barrels, which acts as a flocculant, which adheres to and then drops any particulate matter to the bottom.

When you say alum what exactly do you mean the solid rock form, or some powered form and how much, how often?

Thank you for any insight you can offer.
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STEVE QUAIL AND THE HAWK BETTER STOP ADVERTISING THIS SHIT!
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Where can we see the Hawk? Haven't heard him in a while?
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This conversation is all over the prepper communities and we mostly agree that we will still use our berkey filters without hesitation. RO is also a good choice. We do pretty much agree that for berkey to be attacked right now is pretty coinky-dinky.
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I have a berkey and I am still alive after using it for 20 years to filter water from my cesspool which I drink when filtered. Smelly process but it works.
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Own a Berkey water filter? Might want to re-think using it. I wanted to share this while you still have time to grab an alternative.

These were pushed quite a bit throughout the Prepping community, but it almost sounds like this company may have taken advantage of many consumers, given the videos below.

These are not my videos, nor do I know this guy, but it is starting to go around with various other Youtubers who also had water tested.



Video 1 - Summary - Berkey Falsified the testing information. The filters seem to not filter the claimed contaminants, nor are they doing so to the stated ratings. When asked for test results, they replied with "estimated" results.





Video 2 - Summary - There is an ongoing class action lawsuit against Berkey. Water was sent in for 3rd party testing for NSF Std 53, and the Berkey failed horribly.

Apparently, there seems to be a class action going.


Lawsuit Link:

h t t p s ://nopeorg/embed/berkey-lawsuit-court-documents_202210
 Quoting: ifSHTF


Only two ways of filtering water.

Reverse osmosis or distillation. Thats it.

Any other way removes nothing at all.
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i have a Berkey filter in this thread they
are just taking about the the black filters
in the top tank when i bought my Berkey i was
told it will not take out arsenic or fluoride
you have to buy the add on white filters that
screw on to black ones that hang in the bottom
part of the tank, i think they are nsf certified and only
last for 6 months how is this not mentioned in
these 2 videos not saying are wrong because the add
on filters is an add cost twice a year, the one thing
i found is if i make ice cubes in a plastic tray with
tap water from the water company i have to bang them out
out of the trays with the Berkey turn the tray over and
they fall out with no ice still stuck in the corners so
its got to be doing some good
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You might be right. There is a guy that is a self proclaimed water and foods expert on another site and he threw a big fit about people that were planning to use rainwater from asphalt roofs. I had a barrel that collected it for a while. It was pretty disgusting looking water. Shingle material degrades in the harsh Southern sunshine, and the asphalt makes a sludge on the bottom of the barrel, so I think the guy had a valid point.

In an emergency though, if your options are to die of dehydration or drink water with some hydrocarbon in it, of course everyone would drink the water even if it was nasty.

But probably should not be part of anyone's plan A or Plan B.

But to each his own. I just come on here to try and help people out.


If a roof-to-tank catchment system was created, could you put a filter between the roof collection and the tank?

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You might be right. There is a guy that is a self proclaimed water and foods expert on another site and he threw a big fit about people that were planning to use rainwater from asphalt roofs. I had a barrel that collected it for a while. It was pretty disgusting looking water. Shingle material degrades in the harsh Southern sunshine, and the asphalt makes a sludge on the bottom of the barrel, so I think the guy had a valid point.

In an emergency though, if your options are to die of dehydration or drink water with some hydrocarbon in it, of course everyone would drink the water even if it was nasty.

But probably should not be part of anyone's plan A or Plan B.

But to each his own. I just come on here to try and help people out.
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(Fixed quotes)

If a roof-to-tank catchment system was created, could you put a filter between the roof collection and the tank?

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I have a berkey and I am still alive after using it for 20 years to filter water from my cesspool which I drink when filtered. Smelly process but it works.
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And have you taken a TDS water tester to the filtered water you've been drinking?

If the TDS reading is 100ppm or above, you might as well just drink crappy city or bottled water.

IF the reading is 50 - 99ppm, then its okay, not the greatest. 11 - 49ppm, is fairly good.

If its reading 10ppm or less then you're getting very clean water.
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how about not use a water filter
stupid health freaks
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Clean drinking water is essential for life. Not really sure why wanting clean water makes someone a health freak... If these filters were coming out of China, there is no telling if they also create any future cancer risks, either, as they certainly weren't tested...



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OP...your talking to a brain dead AI

they are programed to say stupid shit like that
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it bothers me they line the inside with lead
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You might be right. There is a guy that is a self proclaimed water and foods expert on another site and he threw a big fit about people that were planning to use rainwater from asphalt roofs. I had a barrel that collected it for a while. It was pretty disgusting looking water. Shingle material degrades in the harsh Southern sunshine, and the asphalt makes a sludge on the bottom of the barrel, so I think the guy had a valid point.

In an emergency though, if your options are to die of dehydration or drink water with some hydrocarbon in it, of course everyone would drink the water even if it was nasty.

But probably should not be part of anyone's plan A or Plan B.

But to each his own. I just come on here to try and help people out.
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If a roof-to-tank catchment system was created, could you put a filter between the roof collection and the tank?

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Not a good idea. For one thing, once you filter the water, you want to drink it and not stick it into a cistern or other water tank where it can get recontaminated.

The other thing, is that rainfall flowrates will vary all over the place. If you are using a carbon bed to absorb impurities you want a steady controlled flow, to get the residence time in the bed that is needed for the mass transport phenomena to work right.

Some people rig up a contraption that will dump the first bit of rainwater on the ground, then collect the rest once the roof has been supposedly washed clean of bird poop and whatever else is on the roof. It has a floating ball and some fancy piping. You can find it easy on Youtube.

There are lots of videos on the first flush system. Here is one.




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The real question, do the filters contain Graphene Oxide?
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DEEP STATE OPERATIVE? LIES?
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Yes, I agree! We’ve been using one for years and its wonderful! It takes nasty campground water and makes it clear, clean and pure.

The people behind this have enough money to bring down small, medium, and large businesses because they have the money to do it! Remember Goya, the canned veggie people, Chick Fil A, etc.?!
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“If you try to collect rainwater, best not use an asphalt tiled roof, because it leaches off a fair amount of hydrocarbons as well.”

Unless the asphalt roof is brand spanking new, it’s not really a problem. Give it a couple of months during the rainy season and it’ll be fine. If one is really fastidious and concerned about possible hydrocarbons in the water, send some of the collected water to an open-top barrel with a draw point a few inches up from the bottom. Give it a couple of days to settle, throw in some alum to remove any larger particulates, then suction off the top inch of water that will contain any hydrocarbon which will have floated to the top. Collect water from the bottom draw point and you’re good to go.
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You might be right. There is a guy that is a self proclaimed water and foods expert on another site and he threw a big fit about people that were planning to use rainwater from asphalt roofs. I had a barrel that collected it for a while. It was pretty disgusting looking water. Shingle material degrades in the harsh Southern sunshine, and the asphalt makes a sludge on the bottom of the barrel, so I think the guy had a valid point.

In an emergency though, if your options are to die of dehydration or drink water with some hydrocarbon in it, of course everyone would drink the water even if it was nasty.

But probably should not be part of anyone's plan A or Plan B.

But to each his own. I just come on here to try and help people out.
 Quoting: JustmeTX


Well, I’ve been using water catchment off an asphalt-shingled roof for almost 2 decades now, and while you do get some debris off the shingles in the form of tiny pebbles and a few fibers, the water’s fine otherwise. If we get a cloudburst after an extended dry period, I throw some alum into the barrels, which acts as a flocculant, which adheres to and then drops any particulate matter to the bottom. I pre-filter it, then send it through either a Berkey with the white ceramic filters or a Sawyer drip filter.
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I haven't tried it. If it works for you, more power to you.
This other guy was pretty well versed on the subject and he was going nuts when it was suggested. If it tastes OK after you put it through some sort of respectable filter, then you probably are not in too much peril. :)

Still not sure I would make that my plan A. If I have to catch water, I have my old dacron sails that I would rig up somehow to catch rainwater.
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Just make certain that there isn’t any sizing or other treatment on them.
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Not a good idea. For one thing, once you filter the water, you want to drink it and not stick it into a cistern or other water tank where it can get recontaminated.

The other thing, is that rainfall flowrates will vary all over the place. If you are using a carbon bed to absorb impurities you want a steady controlled flow, to get the residence time in the bed that is needed for the mass transport phenomena to work right.

Some people rig up a contraption that will dump the first bit of rainwater on the ground, then collect the rest once the roof has been supposedly washed clean of bird poop and whatever else is on the roof. It has a floating ball and some fancy piping. You can find it easy on Youtube.
 Quoting: JustmeTX


Ahhhh, got it. Add the bird poop contraption. Cistern. Then filter.

I'll watch some vids for more info on this route.

Many thanks for the info. This is TXP NLI. Grabbing a couple 55 gal tanks and filling them now makes me feel a little more at ease with the H20 situation if something goes sideways, and I get stuck here.

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I used to use Alexapure but I installed a reverse osmosis filter on my well water with a water softener to add back in minerals.

My water is pretty fucking good.
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Yeah it’s clean, but it’s dead water. All minerals striped
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Water is H2O not minerals.
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DEEP STATE OPERATIVE? LIES?
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Yes, I agree! We’ve been using one for years and its wonderful! It takes nasty campground water and makes it clear, clean and pure.

The people behind this have enough money to bring down small, medium, and large businesses because they have the money to do it! Remember Goya, the canned veggie people, Chick Fil A, etc.?!
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Okay, you can use one for years.

But have you personally taken that water to be tested for full analysis?

If no, then why not?

Water can look clean, taste clean, and be completely hazardous to drink.
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“If you try to collect rainwater, best not use an asphalt tiled roof, because it leaches off a fair amount of hydrocarbons as well.”

Unless the asphalt roof is brand spanking new, it’s not really a problem. Give it a couple of months during the rainy season and it’ll be fine. If one is really fastidious and concerned about possible hydrocarbons in the water, send some of the collected water to an open-top barrel with a draw point a few inches up from the bottom. Give it a couple of days to settle, throw in some alum to remove any larger particulates, then suction off the top inch of water that will contain any hydrocarbon which will have floated to the top. Collect water from the bottom draw point and you’re good to go.
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You might be right. There is a guy that is a self proclaimed water and foods expert on another site and he threw a big fit about people that were planning to use rainwater from asphalt roofs. I had a barrel that collected it for a while. It was pretty disgusting looking water. Shingle material degrades in the harsh Southern sunshine, and the asphalt makes a sludge on the bottom of the barrel, so I think the guy had a valid point.

In an emergency though, if your options are to die of dehydration or drink water with some hydrocarbon in it, of course everyone would drink the water even if it was nasty.

But probably should not be part of anyone's plan A or Plan B.

But to each his own. I just come on here to try and help people out.
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Well, I’ve been using water catchment off an asphalt-shingled roof for almost 2 decades now, and while you do get some debris off the shingles in the form of tiny pebbles and a few fibers, the water’s fine otherwise. If we get a cloudburst after an extended dry period, I throw some alum into the barrels, which acts as a flocculant, which adheres to and then drops any particulate matter to the bottom. I pre-filter it, then send it through either a Berkey with the white ceramic filters or a Sawyer drip filter.
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QUESTION: I throw some alum into the barrels, which acts as a flocculant, which adheres to and then drops any particulate matter to the bottom.

When you say alum what exactly do you mean the solid rock form, or some powered form and how much, how often?

Thank you for any insight you can offer.
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Without going into details, as your needs may vary from mine considerably, here is a page that offers a few links of interest:
[link to duckduckgo.com (secure)]

There is also this product, which uses 5% calcium hypochlorite in addition to salt, bicarbonate of soda and lime to clear water:
[link to www.lehmans.com (secure)]

15 ounces of the above treats 5k gallons of water.

Hope this helps.
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It'll still be better than what millions in the city's will have. Nothing.
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Loup Garou, here’s a video on that settling product I linked above:

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I used to use Alexapure but I installed a reverse osmosis filter on my well water with a water softener to add back in minerals.

My water is pretty fucking good.
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Yeah it’s clean, but it’s dead water. All minerals striped
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The human body takes in minerals primarily from what you eat. Not water.

Minerals in drinking water are 1 - 20ppm (parts per million).

So for every 1 million grams of water you get 1 - 20 grams of minerals and chemical compounds.

1 million grams of water = 1 million milliliters of water

1 million mL of water = 1000L of water (264 gallons)

So for every 1 gallon of water you drink you're only getting 0.38 mg - 7.8 mg of various minerals and chemical compounds.

Thats nothing at all.

For example, here's the comparison for water and milk. In one cup (8 oz serving) of milk you will get 980mg of mineral content. And thats just one cup.

So 1 cup of milk has nearly 1000x more minerals than 1 gallon (16 cups) of water.
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Re: Own a Berkey water filter? Might want to re-think using it.
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You might be right. There is a guy that is a self proclaimed water and foods expert on another site and he threw a big fit about people that were planning to use rainwater from asphalt roofs. I had a barrel that collected it for a while. It was pretty disgusting looking water. Shingle material degrades in the harsh Southern sunshine, and the asphalt makes a sludge on the bottom of the barrel, so I think the guy had a valid point.

In an emergency though, if your options are to die of dehydration or drink water with some hydrocarbon in it, of course everyone would drink the water even if it was nasty.

But probably should not be part of anyone's plan A or Plan B.

But to each his own. I just come on here to try and help people out.
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Well, I’ve been using water catchment off an asphalt-shingled roof for almost 2 decades now, and while you do get some debris off the shingles in the form of tiny pebbles and a few fibers, the water’s fine otherwise. If we get a cloudburst after an extended dry period, I throw some alum into the barrels, which acts as a flocculant, which adheres to and then drops any particulate matter to the bottom. I pre-filter it, then send it through either a Berkey with the white ceramic filters or a Sawyer drip filter.
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QUESTION: I throw some alum into the barrels, which acts as a flocculant, which adheres to and then drops any particulate matter to the bottom.

When you say alum what exactly do you mean the solid rock form, or some powered form and how much, how often?

Thank you for any insight you can offer.
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Without going into details, as your needs may vary from mine considerably, here is a page that offers a few links of interest:
[link to duckduckgo.com (secure)]

There is also this product, which uses 5% calcium hypochlorite in addition to salt, bicarbonate of soda and lime to clear water:
[link to www.lehmans.com (secure)]

15 ounces of the above treats 5k gallons of water.

Hope this helps.
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Not sure what that stuff is, might be great stuff for water treatment, (Lehmans sells good stuff typically), but it isn't alum.

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Alum = Al2(SO4) 3·n H2O, which is used for most industrial flocculation.

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Re: Own a Berkey water filter? Might want to re-think using it.
Something about the guy in OP's videos I found to be off putting and untrustworthy, so I decided to look into things a bit more.

I watched several videos on YouTube where people actually tested their water at the tap and then again after filtering through the Berkey.

In all cases the Berkey performed very well, in one case edging out a counter top RO system.

Here are couple of the videos in question:

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I don't find it entirely coincidental that at the time self sufficiency is being minimized, registered, and outright banned, that the leading maker of water filters used by preppers is being sued and discredited.

This falls right in line with the registration of gardens, gun bans, banning backyard livestock (Ontario where I live banned the sale, trade or gifting of live poultry this year) etc.

I will be very interested to see the results of this court case.
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100%.

I've tested water ran through my berkey and its done amazing.





GLP