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Anonymous Coward User ID: 82879463 Canada 10/11/2022 09:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have to. Its the only true purest form of water. In labs they use it because they cant have any compound cross-react or impact the results. In hospitals its the only safest form they can use internally in the human body and for creating IV fluids. |
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User ID: 84369183 United States 10/11/2022 09:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18864727 Well, I’ve been using water catchment off an asphalt-shingled roof for almost 2 decades now, and while you do get some debris off the shingles in the form of tiny pebbles and a few fibers, the water’s fine otherwise. If we get a cloudburst after an extended dry period, I throw some alum into the barrels, which acts as a flocculant, which adheres to and then drops any particulate matter to the bottom. I pre-filter it, then send it through either a Berkey with the white ceramic filters or a Sawyer drip filter. QUESTION: I throw some alum into the barrels, which acts as a flocculant, which adheres to and then drops any particulate matter to the bottom. When you say alum what exactly do you mean the solid rock form, or some powered form and how much, how often? Thank you for any insight you can offer. Without going into details, as your needs may vary from mine considerably, here is a page that offers a few links of interest: [link to duckduckgo.com (secure)] There is also this product, which uses 5% calcium hypochlorite in addition to salt, bicarbonate of soda and lime to clear water: [link to www.lehmans.com (secure)] 15 ounces of the above treats 5k gallons of water. Hope this helps. Not sure what that stuff is, might be great stuff for water treatment, (Lehmans sells good stuff typically), but it isn't alum. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Alum = Al2(SO4)3· hydrated, which is used for most industrial flocculation. Old Settler = "Safe and effective compound of chlorine, salt, bicarbonate soda and lime" LIme is Cahydroxide. Bicarb is NaHCO3 Last Edited by JustmeTX on 10/11/2022 09:42 PM Justme |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18864727 United States 10/11/2022 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18864727 Well, I’ve been using water catchment off an asphalt-shingled roof for almost 2 decades now, and while you do get some debris off the shingles in the form of tiny pebbles and a few fibers, the water’s fine otherwise. If we get a cloudburst after an extended dry period, I throw some alum into the barrels, which acts as a flocculant, which adheres to and then drops any particulate matter to the bottom. I pre-filter it, then send it through either a Berkey with the white ceramic filters or a Sawyer drip filter. QUESTION: I throw some alum into the barrels, which acts as a flocculant, which adheres to and then drops any particulate matter to the bottom. When you say alum what exactly do you mean the solid rock form, or some powered form and how much, how often? Thank you for any insight you can offer. Without going into details, as your needs may vary from mine considerably, here is a page that offers a few links of interest: [link to duckduckgo.com (secure)] There is also this product, which uses 5% calcium hypochlorite in addition to salt, bicarbonate of soda and lime to clear water: [link to www.lehmans.com (secure)] 15 ounces of the above treats 5k gallons of water. Hope this helps. Not sure what that stuff is, might be great stuff for water treatment, (Lehmans sells good stuff typically), but it isn't alum. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Alum = Al2(SO4) 3·n H2O, which is used for most industrial flocculation. I listed the chemical composition of Old Settler just before the link. Take a look ^^^ Alum is just, well, powdered alum. Nothing added. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84319781 United States 10/11/2022 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Own a Berkey water filter? Might want to re-think using it. I wanted to share this while you still have time to grab an alternative. Quoting: ifSHTF These were pushed quite a bit throughout the Prepping community, but it almost sounds like this company may have taken advantage of many consumers, given the videos below. These are not my videos, nor do I know this guy, but it is starting to go around with various other Youtubers who also had water tested. Video 1 - Summary - Berkey Falsified the testing information. The filters seem to not filter the claimed contaminants, nor are they doing so to the stated ratings. When asked for test results, they replied with "estimated" results. Video 2 - Summary - There is an ongoing class action lawsuit against Berkey. Water was sent in for 3rd party testing for NSF Std 53, and the Berkey failed horribly. Apparently, there seems to be a class action going. Lawsuit Link: h t t p s ://nopeorg/embed/berkey-lawsuit-court-documents_202210 |
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JustmeTX
User ID: 84369183 United States 10/11/2022 09:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Loup Garou QUESTION: I throw some alum into the barrels, which acts as a flocculant, which adheres to and then drops any particulate matter to the bottom. When you say alum what exactly do you mean the solid rock form, or some powered form and how much, how often? Thank you for any insight you can offer. Without going into details, as your needs may vary from mine considerably, here is a page that offers a few links of interest: [link to duckduckgo.com (secure)] There is also this product, which uses 5% calcium hypochlorite in addition to salt, bicarbonate of soda and lime to clear water: [link to www.lehmans.com (secure)] 15 ounces of the above treats 5k gallons of water. Hope this helps. Not sure what that stuff is, might be great stuff for water treatment, (Lehmans sells good stuff typically), but it isn't alum. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Alum = Al2(SO4) 3·n H2O, which is used for most industrial flocculation. I listed the chemical composition of Old Settler just before the link. Take a look ^^^ Alum is just, well, powdered alum. Nothing added. Right. I guess people often say alum as a catch all term meaning "flocculant'. I was just clarifying that the stuff you linked to isn't alum. Heck, maybe it is better than alum. If I am clarifying a point, maybe I am Alum? LOL. :) Justme |
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User ID: 84369183 United States 10/11/2022 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Add trace minerals and other nutrients to your ro, distilled or purified water Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84296682 They sell a "remineralizer" that you can add onto the end of an Undersink R/O system. Or just take a mineral supplement to make sure you are getting the right minerals. Everyone is deficient in Magnesium from what I can determine. Probably why so many people get heart arrhythmias. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 10/11/2022 09:52 PM Justme |
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User ID: 84369183 United States 10/11/2022 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anyone who criticizes one filter is selling another. Water filtration is a huge scam market. Just listen to Steph Curry and filter the tap with a cheap Brita and stop worrying. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81924458 The discussion is not about filtering water that is already potable from the tap. It is about filtering or otherwise disinfecting water from impure streams, ponds, gutters, mud puddles, etc. Whatever is available in an emergency where city services fail. Your "cheap Brita" is useless for treating infected water. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 10/11/2022 09:57 PM Justme |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62070264 United States 10/11/2022 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a berkey and I am still alive after using it for 20 years to filter water from my cesspool which I drink when filtered. Smelly process but it works. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59625174 Be careful , Many people will say they used toilet paper all their life and they still have some kind of an asshole. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77173110 United States 10/11/2022 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something about the guy in OP's videos I found to be off putting and untrustworthy, so I decided to look into things a bit more. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27297 I watched several videos on YouTube where people actually tested their water at the tap and then again after filtering through the Berkey. In all cases the Berkey performed very well, in one case edging out a counter top RO system. Here are couple of the videos in question: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I don't find it entirely coincidental that at the time self sufficiency is being minimized, registered, and outright banned, that the leading maker of water filters used by preppers is being sued and discredited. This falls right in line with the registration of gardens, gun bans, banning backyard livestock (Ontario where I live banned the sale, trade or gifting of live poultry this year) etc. I will be very interested to see the results of this court case. 100%. I've tested water ran through my berkey and its done amazing. My tap water is shit. Damn near unfit to drink or use for cooking. Berkey makes the water taste great. The black filters alone do not filter out fluoride. You have to add fluoride filters. But at 10,000 gals per set of filters, a cost effective filter. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72630148 United States 10/12/2022 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WTF with you stupid degenerate peasants scum? you are killing yourselves with bad information and poor "advice" from your peers degenerates!! do you scum idiots understand difference between reverse osmosis and ANY OTHER conventional "filters"??? WTF??!!!! You want others to chew your food for you, stupid peasants?? HERE, reverse osmosis SUCKS OUT CLEAN WATER from running water!! RO IS NOT A FILTER, IT IS "SUCK-OUT-CLEAN-WATER MEMBRANE". ONE OF GREATEST INVENTIONS IN HISTORY OF HUMAN RACE! WTF??!!! CANT YOU SCUM READ FOR 2 MINUTES??!! EVERYTHING ELSE is a scam!! RO uses ONLY ONE OTHER "prefilter" called Carbon filter. It extracts Chlorine from water BEFORE it enters RO membrane, so that it does not DAMAGE IT. AND ONLY FOR THIS REASON!! RO costs $50 FOR EVERYTHING, AND WILL WORK FOR 10 years, plus cost of carbon over 10 years about $5. VS this SCAM "Berkey" that costs 10 times more, and 100 times more in filters, I assume, over $5 carbon filter. THAT STUPIDEST PEASANT with "aluminum" advice is worst ever "advice"!! Aluminum is literally POISON. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18864727 United States 10/12/2022 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WTF with you stupid degenerate peasants scum? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72630148 you are killing yourselves with bad information and poor "advice" from your peers degenerates!! do you scum idiots understand difference between reverse osmosis and ANY OTHER conventional "filters"??? WTF??!!!! You want others to chew your food for you, stupid peasants?? HERE, reverse osmosis SUCKS OUT CLEAN WATER from running water!! RO IS NOT A FILTER, IT IS "SUCK-OUT-CLEAN-WATER MEMBRANE". ONE OF GREATEST INVENTIONS IN HISTORY OF HUMAN RACE! WTF??!!! CANT YOU SCUM READ FOR 2 MINUTES??!! EVERYTHING ELSE is a scam!! RO uses ONLY ONE OTHER "prefilter" called Carbon filter. It extracts Chlorine from water BEFORE it enters RO membrane, so that it does not DAMAGE IT. AND ONLY FOR THIS REASON!! RO costs $50 FOR EVERYTHING, AND WILL WORK FOR 10 years, plus cost of carbon over 10 years about $5. VS this SCAM "Berkey" that costs 10 times more, and 100 times more in filters, I assume, over $5 carbon filter. THAT STUPIDEST PEASANT with "aluminum" advice is worst ever "advice"!! Aluminum is literally POISON. You are one ignorant son of a bitch. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72630148 United States 10/12/2022 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have to. Its the only true purest form of water. In labs they use it because they cant have any compound cross-react or impact the results. In hospitals its the only safest form they can use internally in the human body and for creating IV fluids. NO you fucking scum degenerates! They use RO IO "medical purity" of water that is 10 times "less pure" than Industrial use for nuclear reactors, and 100 times "less pure" than what is used as computer circuit boards demineralizer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72630148 United States 10/12/2022 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WTF with you stupid degenerate peasants scum? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72630148 you are killing yourselves with bad information and poor "advice" from your peers degenerates!! do you scum idiots understand difference between reverse osmosis and ANY OTHER conventional "filters"??? WTF??!!!! You want others to chew your food for you, stupid peasants?? HERE, reverse osmosis SUCKS OUT CLEAN WATER from running water!! RO IS NOT A FILTER, IT IS "SUCK-OUT-CLEAN-WATER MEMBRANE". ONE OF GREATEST INVENTIONS IN HISTORY OF HUMAN RACE! WTF??!!! CANT YOU SCUM READ FOR 2 MINUTES??!! EVERYTHING ELSE is a scam!! RO uses ONLY ONE OTHER "prefilter" called Carbon filter. It extracts Chlorine from water BEFORE it enters RO membrane, so that it does not DAMAGE IT. AND ONLY FOR THIS REASON!! RO costs $50 FOR EVERYTHING, AND WILL WORK FOR 10 years, plus cost of carbon over 10 years about $5. VS this SCAM "Berkey" that costs 10 times more, and 100 times more in filters, I assume, over $5 carbon filter. THAT STUPIDEST PEASANT with "aluminum" advice is worst ever "advice"!! Aluminum is literally POISON. You are one ignorant son of a bitch. Enjoy your Fluoride, scumbag, using this scam Berkley. Yes, you are alive after 20 years of using it, sure. You want billionaires to be killing you off off the bat with regular water??? But at the same time you are low iq degraded degenerate from all that "good" fluoride that made you stupid, scumbag. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63560815 United States 10/12/2022 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have to. Its the only true purest form of water. In labs they use it because they cant have any compound cross-react or impact the results. In hospitals its the only safest form they can use internally in the human body and for creating IV fluids. NO you fucking scum degenerates! They use RO IO "medical purity" of water that is 10 times "less pure" than Industrial use for nuclear reactors, and 100 times "less pure" than what is used as computer circuit boards demineralizer. Have you been drinking or do you have borderline disorder whereby you have no control over your emotions? Check yourself, AC. . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72630148 United States 10/12/2022 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They have to. Its the only true purest form of water. In labs they use it because they cant have any compound cross-react or impact the results. In hospitals its the only safest form they can use internally in the human body and for creating IV fluids. NO you fucking scum degenerates! They use RO IO "medical purity" of water that is 10 times "less pure" than Industrial use for nuclear reactors, and 100 times "less pure" than what is used as computer circuit boards demineralizer. Have you been drinking or do you have borderline disorder whereby you have no control over your emotions? Check yourself, AC. . Look, idiots, water is BIG DEAL. This is the only way billionaires depopulate and degrade peasants for free that all Americans suffer. Recently they found new methods of depopulating peasants, such as RNA vaccine, "fake" low quality food, RoundUp, etc. But if you are smart enough to avoid all of that, water is still last obstacle. And it requires information ONLY. No extra resources are required, such as consuming Salmon or other oily fish. Mere knowledge is enough, and few Kopeks to set it up. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18864727 United States 10/12/2022 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WTF with you stupid degenerate peasants scum? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72630148 you are killing yourselves with bad information and poor "advice" from your peers degenerates!! do you scum idiots understand difference between reverse osmosis and ANY OTHER conventional "filters"??? WTF??!!!! You want others to chew your food for you, stupid peasants?? HERE, reverse osmosis SUCKS OUT CLEAN WATER from running water!! RO IS NOT A FILTER, IT IS "SUCK-OUT-CLEAN-WATER MEMBRANE". ONE OF GREATEST INVENTIONS IN HISTORY OF HUMAN RACE! WTF??!!! CANT YOU SCUM READ FOR 2 MINUTES??!! EVERYTHING ELSE is a scam!! RO uses ONLY ONE OTHER "prefilter" called Carbon filter. It extracts Chlorine from water BEFORE it enters RO membrane, so that it does not DAMAGE IT. AND ONLY FOR THIS REASON!! RO costs $50 FOR EVERYTHING, AND WILL WORK FOR 10 years, plus cost of carbon over 10 years about $5. VS this SCAM "Berkey" that costs 10 times more, and 100 times more in filters, I assume, over $5 carbon filter. THAT STUPIDEST PEASANT with "aluminum" advice is worst ever "advice"!! Aluminum is literally POISON. You are one ignorant son of a bitch. Enjoy your Fluoride, scumbag, using this scam Berkley. Yes, you are alive after 20 years of using it, sure. You want billionaires to be killing you off off the bat with regular water??? But at the same time you are low iq degraded degenerate from all that "good" fluoride that made you stupid, scumbag. That must be some good crystal meth you’re smoking tonight. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76578904 Australia 10/12/2022 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those idiots don’t realize you can’t prep for what’s coming. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79248910 Keep wasting your time and money hoarding useless crap. U are partly correct. Nothing is gonna save our ass.. they are spraying stuff in the air., they are injecting live stock like pig and cattle with the MRNA (legislation already passed) to prtect you/cattle from 'skin disease' they are putting the nasty stuff into the water |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79248910 United States 10/12/2022 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WTF with you stupid degenerate peasants scum? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72630148 you are killing yourselves with bad information and poor "advice" from your peers degenerates!! do you scum idiots understand difference between reverse osmosis and ANY OTHER conventional "filters"??? WTF??!!!! You want others to chew your food for you, stupid peasants?? HERE, reverse osmosis SUCKS OUT CLEAN WATER from running water!! RO IS NOT A FILTER, IT IS "SUCK-OUT-CLEAN-WATER MEMBRANE". ONE OF GREATEST INVENTIONS IN HISTORY OF HUMAN RACE! WTF??!!! CANT YOU SCUM READ FOR 2 MINUTES??!! EVERYTHING ELSE is a scam!! RO uses ONLY ONE OTHER "prefilter" called Carbon filter. It extracts Chlorine from water BEFORE it enters RO membrane, so that it does not DAMAGE IT. AND ONLY FOR THIS REASON!! RO costs $50 FOR EVERYTHING, AND WILL WORK FOR 10 years, plus cost of carbon over 10 years about $5. VS this SCAM "Berkey" that costs 10 times more, and 100 times more in filters, I assume, over $5 carbon filter. THAT STUPIDEST PEASANT with "aluminum" advice is worst ever "advice"!! Aluminum is literally POISON. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79248910 United States 10/12/2022 01:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those idiots don’t realize you can’t prep for what’s coming. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79248910 Keep wasting your time and money hoarding useless crap. U are partly correct. Nothing is gonna save our ass.. they are spraying stuff in the air., they are injecting live stock like pig and cattle with the MRNA (legislation already passed) to prtect you/cattle from 'skin disease' they are putting the nasty stuff into the water Which is why I am at ease with everything. We literally have so little time left on this planet! |