The Only Coup d’Etat in the US Was 124 yrs Ago...Will History Repeat Itself? | |
cosmicgypsy
User ID: 80037766 United States 10/12/2022 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | November 19th, my b-day, and the Day of the Revolutionary..... Quoting: cosmicgypsy That is all, sister!.... Well, I forgot about that! Well, let's see what kind of fireworks go down then. You lemme know if SHTF out there in the high desert and I'll let everyone know if East Coast is toast. Both of ya come to Texas I'm just one state over, in New Mexico!.... And I'm very happy here....heh, my county is all red, and full of old school gun totters.... You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Deplorableduckhunter
User ID: 71265708 United States 10/12/2022 10:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about when Britain won the War of 1812? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76538688 You know when they burnt down the White House and had the constitution rewritten with amendments Britain didn't agree with removed. my ancestors said the oldest ones they knew muttered endlessly about exactly what your talking about. We lost the War of 1812. |
roguetechie81
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roguetechie81
User ID: 79785318 United States 10/12/2022 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What about when Britain won the War of 1812? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76538688 You know when they burnt down the White House and had the constitution rewritten with amendments Britain didn't agree with removed. my ancestors said the oldest ones they knew muttered endlessly about exactly what your talking about. We lost the War of 1812. There's days I genuinely wonder... Today is one of them. roguetechie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63560815 United States 10/12/2022 11:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ______________(quoting thingie just hates my ass)_________ Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia Then take up your issue w/ history.com since it's their headline I sourced. Perhaps you didn't get earlier where I said there have been many coups throughout history. Here is what most folks would deem a somewhat credible source saying 'only successful' in our country's history. Not changing headline since it does get some folks curious enough to read. Maybe a few folks will learn something new. I always do at this cyber bar. No, I present the argument to you because you presented the information as accurate, and as the presenter, the burden is on you to ensure accuracy. So, you like click bait titles? The only result of that is pissing off your reader while simultaneously damaging your credibility, which is the reason for the nature of the responses you've received. Did you say that you are a teacher? . |
Captain KC Jones
User ID: 75671065 United States 10/12/2022 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn Cap, I would've thought that you had better reading comprehension of everyone here! Maybe it's a case of you not having on your best readers. That happens to me all the time. Did you not see where I cited that earlier as an example? But it's never been officially categorized as a coup. sorry Zenobia, didnm't know it was you and didn't read the whole thread! Sorry, kiddo! mea culpa! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63560815 United States 10/12/2022 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ______________(quoting thingie just hates my ass)_________ Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia Then take up your issue w/ history.com since it's their headline I sourced. Perhaps you didn't get earlier where I said there have been many coups throughout history. Here is what most folks would deem a somewhat credible source saying 'only successful' in our country's history. Not changing headline since it does get some folks curious enough to read. Maybe a few folks will learn something new. I always do at this cyber bar. No, I present the argument to you because you presented the information as accurate, and as the presenter, the burden is on you to ensure accuracy... So, you like click bait titles? The only result of that is pissing off your reader while simultaneously damaging your credibility, which is the reason for the nature of the responses you've received. Did you say that you are a teacher? . To add to the above...the burden is on you to ensure accuracy or to present your opposing or counter argument. . |
Deplorable Zenobia
(OP) User ID: 84299709 United States 10/13/2022 08:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ______________(quoting thingie just hates my ass)_________ Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia Then take up your issue w/ history.com since it's their headline I sourced. Perhaps you didn't get earlier where I said there have been many coups throughout history. Here is what most folks would deem a somewhat credible source saying 'only successful' in our country's history. Not changing headline since it does get some folks curious enough to read. Maybe a few folks will learn something new. I always do at this cyber bar. No, I present the argument to you because you presented the information as accurate, and as the presenter, the burden is on you to ensure accuracy... So, you like click bait titles? The only result of that is pissing off your reader while simultaneously damaging your credibility, which is the reason for the nature of the responses you've received. Did you say that you are a teacher? . To add to the above...the burden is on you to ensure accuracy or to present your opposing or counter argument. . Hmmm, I have nothing to ‘prove’ as to citing History.com’s liberal usage of ‘America’s Only Successful Coup d’Etat’ as per your opinion but rather the onus is on the reader to go do some research and make their own opinion as to whether or not this was what they claim. My clicky-bait style headline is only citing that particular source. Guess I’d fit right in with the Mockingbird Media parrots these days, right? Well, to any readers on this thread, sorry if I’ve pissed you off by sucking you into doing a lil’ bit of scratch-the-surface digging to find nuggets of truth. And yeah, that’s pretty much what a good teacher does or at least should do, right? And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
Deplorable Zenobia
(OP) User ID: 84299709 United States 10/13/2022 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good point, so was JFK. Guess it boils down to categories, the 1898 riots classified as kinetic. Kinetic is coming you can feel it in the air That's what saddens me the most (sigh). It's like smelling the storm comin' before rivers of rain pour out of the skies. And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
Deplorable Zenobia
(OP) User ID: 84299709 United States 10/13/2022 08:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn Cap, I would've thought that you had better reading comprehension of everyone here! Maybe it's a case of you not having on your best readers. That happens to me all the time. Did you not see where I cited that earlier as an example? But it's never been officially categorized as a coup. sorry Zenobia, didnm't know it was you and didn't read the whole thread! Sorry, kiddo! mea culpa! No worries, Cap. Am LOL since just a lil' while ago I was grumbling about WTH I put my best readers down. Typical when I don't have enough heavy fuel in me in the mornings. On side note, hope you're all good. And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84306860 United States 10/13/2022 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Being a native of the Carolinas and of a certain age, I know my history. Most folks have no clue that the only successful coup d’etat in the US was on Nov. 19, 1898. It was known as the Wilmington Race Riots. The elders used to say the Cape Fear River looked like red dye was in the water. Growing up as a child, this particular topic was taboo and never discussed in public. (Yeah, I’m that old) Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia In a nutshell, the Democrats didn’t like how conservative (Republican) black folks down in Wilmington were raising themselves and their communities up in businesses, organizations, etc. The media back then, Raleigh’s newspaper The News and Observer owned by Josephus Daniels, was the mouthpiece for powerful elected/appointed officials. End result was the Wilmington Race Riots, which really was the excuse used when it was really about politics that successful blacks held to. Few links for those who’ve never heard about this bit of obscure history.... America’s Only Successful Coup d’Etat Overthrew a Biracial Government in 1898 The Wilmington, North Carolina massacre decimated Black political and economic power in the city for nearly 100 years. [link to www.history.com (secure)] Wilmington Race Riot of 1898 [link to www.blackpast.org (secure)] Historian John Hope Franklin On the 1898 Wilmington Riots (under 4 min video) So, here we are coming up on 124 yrs anniversary next month. Will history repeat itself? OMG, I hear some of y’all yellin’ top of your lungs that that shit has already happened. Yeah, yeah, I feel same way but over the past several decades. I just find it interesting how history really does rhyme at least, or repeats. THIS IS CLEARLY A LIE. The 2nd to last coup d tat was 1871 when the US became a corporation rather than a country, and lost sovereignty. Thanks to the coward President U Grant. The actual last coup was against President Trump. This is a fact now and without dispute. |
Deplorable Zenobia
(OP) User ID: 84299709 United States 10/13/2022 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As I'm doing my morning news catching-up, am seeing that Dinesh posted this - free viewing of his documentary 2,000 Mules. Thought I'd drop here since this is one tool used to hijack an election. https://twitter.com/_/status/1580290548413304833 And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
Deplorable Zenobia
(OP) User ID: 84299709 United States 10/13/2022 09:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Being a native of the Carolinas and of a certain age, I know my history. Most folks have no clue that the only successful coup d’etat in the US was on Nov. 19, 1898. It was known as the Wilmington Race Riots. The elders used to say the Cape Fear River looked like red dye was in the water. Growing up as a child, this particular topic was taboo and never discussed in public. (Yeah, I’m that old) Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia In a nutshell, the Democrats didn’t like how conservative (Republican) black folks down in Wilmington were raising themselves and their communities up in businesses, organizations, etc. The media back then, Raleigh’s newspaper The News and Observer owned by Josephus Daniels, was the mouthpiece for powerful elected/appointed officials. End result was the Wilmington Race Riots, which really was the excuse used when it was really about politics that successful blacks held to. Few links for those who’ve never heard about this bit of obscure history.... America’s Only Successful Coup d’Etat Overthrew a Biracial Government in 1898 The Wilmington, North Carolina massacre decimated Black political and economic power in the city for nearly 100 years. [link to www.history.com (secure)] Wilmington Race Riot of 1898 [link to www.blackpast.org (secure)] Historian John Hope Franklin On the 1898 Wilmington Riots (under 4 min video) So, here we are coming up on 124 yrs anniversary next month. Will history repeat itself? OMG, I hear some of y’all yellin’ top of your lungs that that shit has already happened. Yeah, yeah, I feel same way but over the past several decades. I just find it interesting how history really does rhyme at least, or repeats. THIS IS CLEARLY A LIE. The 2nd to last coup d tat was 1871 when the US became a corporation rather than a country, and lost sovereignty. Thanks to the coward President U Grant. The actual last coup was against President Trump. This is a fact now and without dispute. That's a stretch to call this as a 'lie' per se. Not disputing your claim but I guess it all depends on an individual's understanding of the phrase and what exactly qualifies in context. Me personally, IMHO there have been many, many 'coups' on many different levels (not all kinetic). Still, a lot of folks are totally missing the point wanting to argue about context and semantics. We are once again standing on the precipice of possibly repeating history. Once again it's really about opposing forces utilizing constructs like politics to try and claw back their power base. And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |