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The Only Coup d’Etat in the US Was 124 yrs Ago...Will History Repeat Itself?

 
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What about when Britain won the War of 1812?

You know when they burnt down the White House and had the constitution rewritten with amendments Britain didn't agree with removed.
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my ancestors said the oldest ones they knew muttered endlessly about exactly what your talking about. We lost the War of 1812.
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Abraham lincoln being shot was an actual coup.
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Good point, so was JFK.

Guess it boils down to categories, the 1898 riots classified as kinetic.
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Kinetic is coming you can feel it in the air
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What about when Britain won the War of 1812?

You know when they burnt down the White House and had the constitution rewritten with amendments Britain didn't agree with removed.
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my ancestors said the oldest ones they knew muttered endlessly about exactly what your talking about. We lost the War of 1812.
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There's days I genuinely wonder...

Today is one of them.
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______________(quoting thingie just hates my ass)_________

Then take up your issue w/ history.com since it's their headline I sourced. Perhaps you didn't get earlier where I said there have been many coups throughout history.

Here is what most folks would deem a somewhat credible source saying 'only successful' in our country's history.

Not changing headline since it does get some folks curious enough to read. Maybe a few folks will learn something new. I always do at this cyber bar.
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No, I present the argument to you because you presented the information as accurate, and as the presenter, the burden is on you to ensure accuracy.

So, you like click bait titles? The only result of that is pissing off your reader while simultaneously damaging your credibility, which is the reason for the nature of the responses you've received.

Did you say that you are a teacher?

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shows how little you know OP!

the murder of President Kennedy was a coup
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Damn Cap, I would've thought that you had better reading comprehension of everyone here! Maybe it's a case of you not having on your best readers. That happens to me all the time.

Did you not see where I cited that earlier as an example? But it's never been officially categorized as a coup.
 Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia


sorry Zenobia, didnm't know it was you and didn't read the whole thread!

Sorry, kiddo! mea culpa!
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______________(quoting thingie just hates my ass)_________

Then take up your issue w/ history.com since it's their headline I sourced. Perhaps you didn't get earlier where I said there have been many coups throughout history.

Here is what most folks would deem a somewhat credible source saying 'only successful' in our country's history.

Not changing headline since it does get some folks curious enough to read. Maybe a few folks will learn something new. I always do at this cyber bar.
 Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia


No, I present the argument to you because you presented the information as accurate, and as the presenter, the burden is on you to ensure accuracy...

So, you like click bait titles? The only result of that is pissing off your reader while simultaneously damaging your credibility, which is the reason for the nature of the responses you've received.

Did you say that you are a teacher?

.
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To add to the above...the burden is on you to ensure accuracy or to present your opposing or counter argument.

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______________(quoting thingie just hates my ass)_________

Then take up your issue w/ history.com since it's their headline I sourced. Perhaps you didn't get earlier where I said there have been many coups throughout history.

Here is what most folks would deem a somewhat credible source saying 'only successful' in our country's history.

Not changing headline since it does get some folks curious enough to read. Maybe a few folks will learn something new. I always do at this cyber bar.
 Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia


No, I present the argument to you because you presented the information as accurate, and as the presenter, the burden is on you to ensure accuracy...

So, you like click bait titles? The only result of that is pissing off your reader while simultaneously damaging your credibility, which is the reason for the nature of the responses you've received.

Did you say that you are a teacher?

.
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To add to the above...the burden is on you to ensure accuracy or to present your opposing or counter argument.

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63560815


Hmmm, I have nothing to ‘prove’ as to citing History.com’s liberal usage of ‘America’s Only Successful Coup d’Etat’ as per your opinion but rather the onus is on the reader to go do some research and make their own opinion as to whether or not this was what they claim.

My clicky-bait style headline is only citing that particular source. Guess I’d fit right in with the Mockingbird Media parrots these days, right? Well, to any readers on this thread, sorry if I’ve pissed you off by sucking you into doing a lil’ bit of scratch-the-surface digging to find nuggets of truth.

And yeah, that’s pretty much what a good teacher does or at least should do, right?
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Abraham lincoln being shot was an actual coup.
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Good point, so was JFK.

Guess it boils down to categories, the 1898 riots classified as kinetic.
 Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia


Kinetic is coming you can feel it in the air
 Quoting: roguetechie81


That's what saddens me the most (sigh).

It's like smelling the storm comin' before rivers of rain pour out of the skies.
And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm

“How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire
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shows how little you know OP!

the murder of President Kennedy was a coup
 Quoting: Captain KC Jones


Damn Cap, I would've thought that you had better reading comprehension of everyone here! Maybe it's a case of you not having on your best readers. That happens to me all the time.

Did you not see where I cited that earlier as an example? But it's never been officially categorized as a coup.
 Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia


sorry Zenobia, didnm't know it was you and didn't read the whole thread!

Sorry, kiddo! mea culpa!
 Quoting: Captain KC Jones


No worries, Cap. Am LOL since just a lil' while ago I was grumbling about WTH I put my best readers down. Typical when I don't have enough heavy fuel in me in the mornings. On side note, hope you're all good.
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“How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire
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Being a native of the Carolinas and of a certain age, I know my history. Most folks have no clue that the only successful coup d’etat in the US was on Nov. 19, 1898. It was known as the Wilmington Race Riots. The elders used to say the Cape Fear River looked like red dye was in the water. Growing up as a child, this particular topic was taboo and never discussed in public. (Yeah, I’m that old)

In a nutshell, the Democrats didn’t like how conservative (Republican) black folks down in Wilmington were raising themselves and their communities up in businesses, organizations, etc. The media back then, Raleigh’s newspaper The News and Observer owned by Josephus Daniels, was the mouthpiece for powerful elected/appointed officials. End result was the Wilmington Race Riots, which really was the excuse used when it was really about politics that successful blacks held to.

Few links for those who’ve never heard about this bit of obscure history....

America’s Only Successful Coup d’Etat Overthrew a Biracial Government in 1898
The Wilmington, North Carolina massacre decimated Black political and economic power in the city for nearly 100 years.

[link to www.history.com (secure)]

Wilmington Race Riot of 1898

[link to www.blackpast.org (secure)]

Historian John Hope Franklin On the 1898 Wilmington Riots (under 4 min video)


So, here we are coming up on 124 yrs anniversary next month. Will history repeat itself? OMG, I hear some of y’all yellin’ top of your lungs that that shit has already happened. Yeah, yeah, I feel same way but over the past several decades.

I just find it interesting how history really does rhyme at least, or repeats.
 Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia


THIS IS CLEARLY A LIE. The 2nd to last coup d tat was 1871 when the US became a corporation rather than a country, and lost sovereignty. Thanks to the coward President U Grant.
The actual last coup was against President Trump. This is a fact now and without dispute.
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As I'm doing my morning news catching-up, am seeing that Dinesh posted this - free viewing of his documentary 2,000 Mules.

Thought I'd drop here since this is one tool used to hijack an election.


And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm

“How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire
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Being a native of the Carolinas and of a certain age, I know my history. Most folks have no clue that the only successful coup d’etat in the US was on Nov. 19, 1898. It was known as the Wilmington Race Riots. The elders used to say the Cape Fear River looked like red dye was in the water. Growing up as a child, this particular topic was taboo and never discussed in public. (Yeah, I’m that old)

In a nutshell, the Democrats didn’t like how conservative (Republican) black folks down in Wilmington were raising themselves and their communities up in businesses, organizations, etc. The media back then, Raleigh’s newspaper The News and Observer owned by Josephus Daniels, was the mouthpiece for powerful elected/appointed officials. End result was the Wilmington Race Riots, which really was the excuse used when it was really about politics that successful blacks held to.

Few links for those who’ve never heard about this bit of obscure history....

America’s Only Successful Coup d’Etat Overthrew a Biracial Government in 1898
The Wilmington, North Carolina massacre decimated Black political and economic power in the city for nearly 100 years.

[link to www.history.com (secure)]

Wilmington Race Riot of 1898

[link to www.blackpast.org (secure)]

Historian John Hope Franklin On the 1898 Wilmington Riots (under 4 min video)


So, here we are coming up on 124 yrs anniversary next month. Will history repeat itself? OMG, I hear some of y’all yellin’ top of your lungs that that shit has already happened. Yeah, yeah, I feel same way but over the past several decades.

I just find it interesting how history really does rhyme at least, or repeats.
 Quoting: Deplorable Zenobia


THIS IS CLEARLY A LIE. The 2nd to last coup d tat was 1871 when the US became a corporation rather than a country, and lost sovereignty. Thanks to the coward President U Grant.
The actual last coup was against President Trump. This is a fact now and without dispute.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84306860


That's a stretch to call this as a 'lie' per se. Not disputing your claim but I guess it all depends on an individual's understanding of the phrase and what exactly qualifies in context. Me personally, IMHO there have been many, many 'coups' on many different levels (not all kinetic).

Still, a lot of folks are totally missing the point wanting to argue about context and semantics. We are once again standing on the precipice of possibly repeating history.

Once again it's really about opposing forces utilizing constructs like politics to try and claw back their power base.
And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm

“How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire





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