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Are people oblivious to the collapse we are about to face?

 
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What happens to debt in a total system collapse? Who is going to enforce repayment? Remember the “lier loans,..aka no money down mortgages”? people were living in no money down million dollar homes for years before the banks caught up with them? Free ride for years seems pretty darn good and you save your money as well?
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I think with a full scale collapse like we have never seen before in modern recorded history would wipe out most of the Population within the 1st few months from starvation disease and violence,…etc. the roving marauders and looters would be downsized greatly and much weaker by the 2nd quarter 4-6 month time frame imho. People will have to eventually cooperate to rebuild a semblance of a society if we went full Mad-Max in a collapse. I don’t under estimate what people that are desperate will do,…
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Dont forget about the complete cut off of 'meds'- for heart patients, diabetics, cancer, psych, etc... 1 in 4 americans takes at least one prescription med daily. ALL that shit is made abroad. And 'regular' drug addicts - coffee, alcohol, sugar, street drugs...

There will be complete chaos within 72 hours.
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seems to have been missed.
people will not do well. especially 'sick'/dependent ones, which is the MAJORITY of Americans, and thus their families, neighbors, and those around them they will attempt to prey on.


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Stone cold fact.
Americans are too weak, sick, and damaged to live without massive infrastructure.
+90% dead in 12 months.
That was the estimate BEFORE that vaxx and before Xiden was trying to get Russia to nuke us.
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All around, it seems people continue to spend spend spend as if everything is normal. Are people not running out of money? I sure as hell am, and have been pinching pennies for months. Is it just my perception, and I am only noticing the wealthy out there? The last week I have this impending sense of deep economic despair is about to strike, the likes of which has never been seen before. I do not think it will be comparable to anything we have seen in the past since society is now so dependent on the digital economy. When things collapse it will be epic and there will be no safety net as the vast majority of people are so disconnected from self sustainability. And, I do not think those who have skills and the resources to be self sustaining will fare that well as the hungry hordes will seek them out.
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Maybe around you OP. Not around me. Or maybe you don't do the shopping for your family.

In my experience just over the last four years things have changed a lot at the grocery store. You used to see couples that were feeding large families that would come in and get two baskets loading them full. You don't see those couples anymore. The couples now have one basket between them. The people that used to have overflowing baskets have full baskets, the ones that had full baskets now have half baskets, and those that had half full baskets have barely filled small baskets.

I know my basket has been getting more sparse every few weeks, while my budget hasn't gone down any. Luckily I stocked up a fair bit of food before the inflation set in. Looking at the rising prices of the stuff I stockpiled, that stash is better than money in the bank for my family.
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The collaspe will affect those of you who are in debt or paying a mortgage, or any other loans you will suffer the worse you've ever experienced. If you can survive in a 3rd world country for 10+ years without feeling miserable you would stand a chance. But most cannot because of your greed. You borrowed to get ahead in life and it's now going to bite you in your ass. You thought u were better off than a poor person who is debtfree. You probably felt comfortable in your suburban home thinking you were smarter than people in the ghetto.

No. Those same people be the ones you face when you end up on the streets overnight in the middle of chaos of an angry mob.

Money or guns will not save you. In fact those 2 things will guarantee your death early. You stand no chance defeating people who had no time to be comfortable like you did. You got weak and you will 100% be unable to win.

Only if you are debtfree you stand a chance. Because you have freedom and you only have to get through this collapse which should be easy for you. You were poor before and it will actually benefit you during all this.

Most of you are thinking in terms of a Hollywood movie and not reality. This won't be walking dead it's real life. You think you can survive when you can't even survive in poverty areas. Go try it now and put urself to the test so you get a preview or taste of what's coming for you.

Take the hood versus a bunch of suburbs idiots and a tiny hood will wipe you all out like you're ants.

You won't be able to barter with whatever you're stocking up with your stupid shft prepping mindset. You didn't learn it seems and you're just fueling your greedy sin mind.

You'd get robbed nobody bartering with you. They are taking what you have.

Money will not help because it's the money or monetary system that caused this in the first place. Nobody will accept something of no value. You won't even be alive to use money when it's all over. So no, you're not going to be buying anything cheap. Not land, or another home. It won't be for sale.

I haven't even said much because I will get blacklisted but I said enough.

But If you want to survive. Sell everything back that you borrowed and if you have equity, great. At least you can now pay off your debts so you at least stand a chance.


Your time is almost up and will soon seem like he'll for you. AND... you still have hell to look forward to!

Be ready. Remember, your guns are a scam they want you to buy them. Trust me I made 1.5 million buying gun stocks when they threatened on mainstream to ban them. They actually will never ban those toys you own.

They want you to own them that's why 99.9% of movies have a gun scene..You're being conned and you are so obedient that you cannot see it. Because you're just a empty shell that had ur brain infiltrated by THEY. They stored everything you believe today in there.

You actually don't have any original thoughts of your own because you were enslaved in a box where they feed you only what they wanted you to see. Anything unique or original someone may tell you may not be registering to your brain.

Because this entire time. If you were in some debt. You are the sheeple who will get slaughtered.
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No one has debt, or anything else dependent on a digital record of an account, title, deed, license, or registration, when the power ends. But write moar.

Do you think Cyber Polygon was for no reason?
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If you borrowed and haven't paid it off. You have debt. Only people who do not have debt. And way more stronger than you is a person who never borrowed and earned every penny. No shortcuts.

If nobody was in debt which is not true. Then they wouldn't be struggling to pay their debt owed. And they are. A debtfree person doesn't live life enslaved they aren't pressure to slave like you. They are free. And have lots of free time to get even stronger. Debt doesn't allow that. You gotta slave to pay to live. You are a slave. A modern slave.
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it all goes poof when the lights go out.
'ownership' AND debt.
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I have never understood why people recommend getting water. Water is everywhere and it is completely free. No need to store it in quantities unless you live in a desert. Instead, recommend to learn how to find, collect and filter water.
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radiation
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Have you ever wondered why they store depleted nuclear waste in pools of water and why it is completely safe to swim in those pools? Do you think it is impossible to filter out radiation using natural methods?

toxic fire ash from building materials and vehicles
millions of sick people shitting outside
millions of bodies disposed of outside
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82758968

Those problems only exist in an urban area. Only a fool would stay in an urban area.

when power stops, so too does water filtration, treatment, and pumping. And the ability to suppress fires.
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What part of learn how to find, collect and filter did you not understand? If you think any of those require electricity, then you clearly are a fool.
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I believe most people, from a Western general perspective, are oblivious to just about everything. I believe that most people are not even prepared for the day ahead, and any far reaching plan for the future is lost in the oblivion of ignorance and apathy. When people live day to day, there is no point into looking ahead. Most of these people are too stupid to imagine more than a single dopamine release activity within half a day.

It is expensive to be stupid.

Be smart. Think of the future and plan ahead. You will get many more dopamine releases out of it and eat better too.
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No. We are already poor and we cant wait to watch all of you rich bastards lose everything lol.

I hope you kill yourselves when you realize that you were never better than us.
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This is true.
I ain't too too far from the gutter so don't have too far to fall.
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nope, have plenty of money because i'm not fucking stupid with it. I'll buy up all yalls shit at pennies on the dollar like i did in 2008/09 and flip it the next time they turn on the printers. Just like I did this time.

Instead of wasting it I build business with it that continue to earn me cash flow. You should try it some time instead of expecting handouts like paychecks all the time.
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Money is not of much use if everything falls apart due to war, famine, market collapse, greed, stupidity, and idiocy. We don't have enough skilled labor to keep the World running as it is and the WEF is engineering further collapes. Promoting: Own nothing and be happy.

Which just leads to the philosophy of "do nothing".

What good is being a billionaire if there's no one to keep the lights on, or run your piss ant little errands. And for people like you, people like me, who are "well off", we're even more screwed if we aren't prepared mentally, physically, and spiritually and have the skills to fend for ourselves.

Money is meaningless in the face of war, disease, famine, and extinction. Can't eat 1s & 0s, paper, or precious metal.s
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You are correct Sir! Many of us cannot afford even with good jobs to pay interest on credit cards, so we do not carry credit card balances, we pay the cards in full before the due date.
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they are flooding people with money.

everyone is getting huge pay increases, and being given bullshit work, digging up streets, filling them back in.

tearing down buildings, rebuilding them. they lack any vision whatsoever,

there is no wealth being generated by all this money, there is no wealth generated when they pay masonic toadies to dig holes and fill them back in. and that is the idea, they are not in wealth building mode, they are in kill kill kill mode


they are just buying off enough of the population so they won't care about the 10% being killed. Then they move to the next 10%, and so on. it works. that's how it's always been actually.
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no one is 'free'.
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The collaspe will affect those of you who are in debt or paying a mortgage, or any other loans you will suffer the worse you've ever experienced. If you can survive in a 3rd world country for 10+ years without feeling miserable you would stand a chance. But most cannot because of your greed. You borrowed to get ahead in life and it's now going to bite you in your ass. You thought u were better off than a poor person who is debtfree. You probably felt comfortable in your suburban home thinking you were smarter than people in the ghetto.

No. Those same people be the ones you face when you end up on the streets overnight in the middle of chaos of an angry mob.

Money or guns will not save you. In fact those 2 things will guarantee your death early. You stand no chance defeating people who had no time to be comfortable like you did. You got weak and you will 100% be unable to win.

Only if you are debtfree you stand a chance. Because you have freedom and you only have to get through this collapse which should be easy for you. You were poor before and it will actually benefit you during all this.

Most of you are thinking in terms of a Hollywood movie and not reality. This won't be walking dead it's real life. You think you can survive when you can't even survive in poverty areas. Go try it now and put urself to the test so you get a preview or taste of what's coming for you.

Take the hood versus a bunch of suburbs idiots and a tiny hood will wipe you all out like you're ants.

You won't be able to barter with whatever you're stocking up with your stupid shft prepping mindset. You didn't learn it seems and you're just fueling your greedy sin mind.

You'd get robbed nobody bartering with you. They are taking what you have.

Money will not help because it's the money or monetary system that caused this in the first place. Nobody will accept something of no value. You won't even be alive to use money when it's all over. So no, you're not going to be buying anything cheap. Not land, or another home. It won't be for sale.

I haven't even said much because I will get blacklisted but I said enough.

But If you want to survive. Sell everything back that you borrowed and if you have equity, great. At least you can now pay off your debts so you at least stand a chance.


Your time is almost up and will soon seem like he'll for you. AND... you still have hell to look forward to!

Be ready. Remember, your guns are a scam they want you to buy them. Trust me I made 1.5 million buying gun stocks when they threatened on mainstream to ban them. They actually will never ban those toys you own.

They want you to own them that's why 99.9% of movies have a gun scene..You're being conned and you are so obedient that you cannot see it. Because you're just a empty shell that had ur brain infiltrated by THEY. They stored everything you believe today in there.

You actually don't have any original thoughts of your own because you were enslaved in a box where they feed you only what they wanted you to see. Anything unique or original someone may tell you may not be registering to your brain.

Because this entire time. If you were in some debt. You are the sheeple who will get slaughtered.
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Eloquent rubbish -- is what I call your dribble...

Firstly,, if that many mortgages went bust -- NO one is coming for your home -- that is BS. It will melt the entire financial system down... So why pay back ? - you make no sense. Paying back solves what problem if the entire world as erupted in chaos ?

You would have me believe to sell my stuff and go live in a Ghetto --- are you that stupid - or are you from the ghetto and trying to make yourself seem that you did well in life? - yes , I believe in those times - the hive mind will take over - looting will become survival mode. So are you saying --- that we should loot with the rest of our now Ghetto friend ? - and that is why you still in the Ghetto -- cos your mindest is still in the Ghetto.

and loose our guns you say ?? - and defend with what ? you make no sense.

Do I think there will be a total breakdown of the fabric of society - YES.. but your post answers to non of the solutions for that time.

My suggestion:

Stock up with PRAYER!
Stock up with skills ( building / welding / hunting etc etc)
Stock up with seeds / produce
stock up with tents / survival gear (water purification etc) .
Stock up with weapons / ammo
Stock up with solar panels / batteries / perimeter gear - alarms
Get out of the city or town --- as far away as possible from anyone else.
set up camp -- wait it out a few months / years - however long it takes --- go back, pick up the pieces.
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nope, have plenty of money because i'm not fucking stupid with it. I'll buy up all yalls shit at pennies on the dollar like i did in 2008/09 and flip it the next time they turn on the printers. Just like I did this time.

Instead of wasting it I build business with it that continue to earn me cash flow. You should try it some time instead of expecting handouts like paychecks all the time.
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“Pride goeth before a fall.”

Best watch your step, son. Your shit stinks just like everyone else’s.
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:bread:

Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
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6 kids and one loaf of bread.

If she’d kept her legs shut it might not look like she’s running a preschool concentration camp.
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No one has debt, or anything else dependent on a digital record of an account, title, deed, license, or registration, when the power ends.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82758968

TPTB needs the electricity to function in order to control the sheep. Without electricity, their method of control vanishes. That is why they are advertising rolling blackouts, not blackouts. Rolling blackouts is enough to destroy refrigerated food, which I believe is their main goal.

Remember that their plan is to kill 1/3 through disease (the vaccine), 1/3 through starvation and 1/3 through war.
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Isn't the problem the derivative instruments used by banks?

The traders who work for banks, who hold all our savings, are allowed to gamble with unlimited credit. They use increasingly complex trading instruments to try and make profit in businesses that are making no profit.

That's why the top companies- google, apple, netflix- produce nothing, but have the highest value stock.
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Your right about derivatives take a look at this and them
wonder how we are going to survive if the market goes tits up.
[link to www.usbanklocations.com (secure)]
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I have never understood why people recommend getting water. Water is everywhere and it is completely free. No need to store it in quantities unless you live in a desert. Instead, recommend to learn how to find, collect and filter water.
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radiation
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Have you ever wondered why they store depleted nuclear waste in pools of water and why it is completely safe to swim in those pools? Do you think it is impossible to filter out radiation using natural methods?

toxic fire ash from building materials and vehicles
millions of sick people shitting outside
millions of bodies disposed of outside
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82758968

Those problems only exist in an urban area. Only a fool would stay in an urban area.

when power stops, so too does water filtration, treatment, and pumping. And the ability to suppress fires.
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What part of learn how to find, collect and filter did you not understand? If you think any of those require electricity, then you clearly are a fool.
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depleted waste is not ionized, radioactive ash.

toxic fire ash will not be limited to cities. who is going to put out any fires anywhere? with what resources?

people will be shitting and dying everywhere, not just cities, polluting most streams, rivers, lakes, ponds, etc.

drink up though, you are the master filterer. kek!
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All around, it seems people continue to spend spend spend as if everything is normal. Are people not running out of money? I sure as hell am, and have been pinching pennies for months. Is it just my perception, and I am only noticing the wealthy out there? The last week I have this impending sense of deep economic despair is about to strike, the likes of which has never been seen before. I do not think it will be comparable to anything we have seen in the past since society is now so dependent on the digital economy. When things collapse it will be epic and there will be no safety net as the vast majority of people are so disconnected from self sustainability. And, I do not think those who have skills and the resources to be self sustaining will fare that well as the hungry hordes will seek them out.
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I have chosen not to participate in the narrative. I am doing fine.
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Here I see more and more middle class people falling into poverty and homelessness, while lots of rich people drive around in their Porsches and Mercedes and go to fine restaurants.
More and more, urban Canada reminds me of third world countries I have visited.
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They are focused on separating the rich from the poor. Grocery stores are good example. They put those bargain stores, like grocery outlets on one corner and across the street the regular stores, they jacked up the costs so high it forces the ones that don’t get unlimited money given to them, to shop at the bargain stores. This narrative separates the two classes. It’s ALL CONDITIONING.
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Isn't the problem the derivative instruments used by banks?

The traders who work for banks, who hold all our savings, are allowed to gamble with unlimited credit. They use increasingly complex trading instruments to try and make profit in businesses that are making no profit.

That's why the top companies- google, apple, netflix- produce nothing, but have the highest value stock.
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Your right about derivatives take a look at this and them
wonder how we are going to survive if the market goes tits up.
The First 8 is trillions
[link to www.usbanklocations.com (secure)]
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Famine and War isn't pretty.

Earth depopulates all the time, just nature's way. Not everyone is fortunate. Best to develop strong coping skills while there's still time.
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Some people are going to cope by ravaging and looting.
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Yes they are. Range cards ready. Rifle with bipod zeroed and ready. Let the looting (and shooting) begin!
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bread

Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
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GREAT PICTURE !!!!!!
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this1
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You need to reverse the order of payment. Today should be 1 measure of barley and 3 measures of wheat for a penny. Growers don't want to grow barley anymore and there is a shortage in USA. Wheat has better government price support, while barley does not. Almost cannot get growers to plant barley anymore.
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Yes.I am aware of communist power.You are not.
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No one has debt, or anything else dependent on a digital record of an account, title, deed, license, or registration, when the power ends.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82758968

TPTB needs the electricity to function in order to control the sheep. Without electricity, their method of control vanishes. That is why they are advertising rolling blackouts, not blackouts. Rolling blackouts is enough to destroy refrigerated food, which I believe is their main goal.

Remember that their plan is to kill 1/3 through disease (the vaccine), 1/3 through starvation and 1/3 through war.
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they are going to 'control' by letting them die off and kill each other.
Dark winter. 8 billion > 500 million

they don't need the grid. they already control your minds. you trust and believe in authority. they will take away all authority, and then come back as the ultimate authority all beg for.

they can offer power as a bait to comply after a long period of chaos- to make those still alive beg for them to take over, turn on power, and provide 'order'. And they will.
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bread

Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
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There will be famine and food will be rationed out on a subsistence level. The oil and wine are luxuries for the rich and they will not be harmed so the rich may not suffer.

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Biden will leave Jan or Feb 2023
Tulsi Gabbard will be the replacement.
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At least I wasn't stupid enough to buy a new car!
How are people going to pay those payments if it get worse?
I drive an old Dodge, it has over a million miles and I'm not joking and it starts right up!
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Re: Are people oblivious to the collapse we are about to face?
nope, have plenty of money because i'm not fucking stupid with it. I'll buy up all yalls shit at pennies on the dollar like i did in 2008/09 and flip it the next time they turn on the printers. Just like I did this time.

Instead of wasting it I build business with it that continue to earn me cash flow. You should try it some time instead of expecting handouts like paychecks all the time.
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Not if the dollar collapses you won’t,! Have silver and gold





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