World's 6th Great Extinction Already Happening!!

I'm going to bump this myself for it's importance!

looks like thoese cloners are gonna have to work overtime.

"Humankind" as you call it, has already just about extinguished its light......Sure it doesn't seem that way because of all the people still running around. But did you know that over 98% of all those people are now souless creatures? They are made up of clones, robotoids, and replacements mostly.

Sort of reminds you of that movie the body snatchers doesn't it? Remember, "Human" means: High Universal Man. Know anybody that fits that description?

Very interesting ac!

And tell me who is able to reverse the wheel of life ?

I don't believe it is reversable.
If it had not been for man's trashing of our eco systems, it would've been through some other means.
I believe we are destined for the end just as the end gives away to a beginning.
It's evolution imho, breeds die out to be replaced by different ones.
More adaptable ones.

It has been hinted at on another thread that HAARP is the reason forthe declining of bees.

I'm assuming it would include many other forms of life as well.

Good post OP.

Your "links" stink. Went to well.com, greenlivingtips.com, nothing on extinction there.

At iucnredlist.org, they say all sorts of species are threatened, but as for extinction :

"The total number of extinct species has reached 785 and a further 65 are only found in captivity or in cultivation."

Which species are now extinct? And in what time fame? Found some examples :

"The Woolly-stalked Begonia (Begonia eiromischa) is the only species to have been declared extinct this year. This Malaysian herb is only known from collections made in 1886 and 1898 on Penang Island. Extensive searches of nearby forests have failed to reveal any specimens in the last 100 years."

Y'know, I'd never have known we were missing the Woolly-stalked Begonia if they hadn't told us.

And they also say there's a "Vulture crisis" :

"In Africa, three species of vulture have been reclassified, including the White-headed Vulture (Trigonoceps occipitalis), which moved from Least Concern to Vulnerable, the White-backed Vulture (Gyps africanus) and Rüppell’s Griffon (Gyps rueppellii), both moved from Least Concern to Near Threatened. The birds’ decline has been due to a lack of food, with a reduction in wild grazing mammals, habitat loss and collision with power lines."

You see how they do it? Each individual variety of an animal is called a separate species. The white-headed vulture is not the same animal as the white-backed vulture.
Bullshit! Any little difference in coloration means you got a separate species? Nope.

But that's how they get their inflated claims of thousands and thousands of extinctions. Tiny differences in plants, insects, etc. It's a con game.

yAwN....
nice tits!

Good post on observations.

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For one thing simply going to the links will not cut it.
dig a little deeper in the archives and you will find what you're looking for.
At least I took the time to link info instead of just spouting my beliefs!
I can't attest to whether it all is true, but the info is there if you're willing to find it.
As to it being wrong, can you honestly say that there aren't species disappearing?
I'd hardly call it a tiny difference if it was as small as just one species disappearing.
We are all connected!
Maybe if you got your head out of your ass you might see!

LOL
Thanks!

Suck shit bitch.

Lean your face a little closer then!

You're cool Shyla. I like the way you think.

I saw a PBS special this week about this subject, concerning the Pacific Ocean. They showed what is in the Pacific, and it is a cesspool of plastic and garbage rotating around and around. The plastic and it's degraded pellets are being found in the fish and birds. It is killing them.
They said it can't be cleaned. There isn't enough money on the planet to even attempt it. Keeping it out of the Atlantic is about the best we can hope for, unless some huge pacific catastrophe pushing the entire rotating stream, and central Pacific mess towards land.

Best come back I've ever heard! LMAO! You go shyla

Best come back I've ever heard! LMAO! You go shyla

But do not worry - The Earth is merely recycling itself! Many more species will go extinct and the population will decline in the upcoming years, but a New Earth will emerge as it has done many times before.

Glad I could make a few of you laugh!
I deal with smartasses with the same degree of cordialty as they offer me! lol
Plus I am a bit naughty.......

Don`t worry? Don`t take responsability for your/our acts?

So... be stupid, egocentric, selfdeceiving, selfish beings that will deserve then not living much more...

That`s what you meant???? Please!!! Of course the Earth "may" reconstitute "another" biodiversity, depends on what happens... but that will not be soon, not without unimaginable pain and definetively not for us... and may even not come at all given our actual powers...

Wake up! There are promising alternatives and we can build a much better world, one in which we can live further sharing the planet and taking care of it!!!

Best hopes for a better humankind,
A scientist who cares

You have to search deeper and not just there, but indeed some info is at hand there...
[link to search.yahoo.com]

Species definition is not a matter of guesses... at least we scientists try to do as best as possible and are quite rigorous with our criteria... varieties are but subcategories on the jerarchical classification, that is imperfect as being constructed as an artificial comprehension wich tries to reflect as better as possible the real natural relationships of life. You might not critize what you are not well informed about, better ask and learn... indeed Earth`s biodiversity is amazing and incredibly large, and it is increasingly in peril.

The most common criteria in recognizing a species has to do with correspondence of characters and reproductive compatibility... as the later is difficult (technically impossible) to be studied for such a large diversity of organisms... character comparison have are highly usefull, together with geographical, ethological (behaviour) and ecological issues, for the definition of the "species". It is possible that some part of the recognized species may actually be somewhat redundant and include several names (in SOME groups, rather than most) for the same species, but taxonomists/systematics are ever working for improving our comprehension of life. We now have new techniques within the molecular fields that are giving a lot of help in the accuracy and the speed in which we can evaluate life forms in a consistent and comprehensive way.

Most of the diversity of life gathers (evolute would be more accurate) in the subtropical and tropical areas, there are many well discussed reasons for this and you should not mislook the relevance of the temperate regions, as they are quite important too. However, there is an important situation that you should notice: life is better known for the later (temperate) because much of the scientific work carried out in the past tooked place there, the most advanced countries had much more scientist to perform the surveys and as they had developed most of their land... there is not too much that remains unkown concerning species recognition/definition on their lands. On the other hand, life on the third world countries and overseas, as well as life in the deep ocean pelagic and benthic habitats, are almost unkown. Tropical biodiversity is so complex and large that scientist are fighting to unveil its mysteries even while the very species they are studying are being pulled out of their habitats and often destroyed.

This is why your commentaries are so unwillingly sarcastic, because the first reason why we can`t address the extinction question as well as we desire is that we don`t have (and expect never get) a scientific community enoughly large to uncover all life marvels, or even their differences and similitudes in order to name them all... before they are even massively destroyed. What you can see in the IUCN lists is the result of the efforts of specialists woriking some of the groups of organisms as hard as they can, but it is likely that this is ONLY a fraction of what`s going on. The extinction has started, but may still be downplayed... we must care... CARE A LOT ABOUT... all is connected, interwieved, we share the planet.

Best hopes for a better humankind,
A scientist who cares

I can be cleaned, there is just not the desire to do so yet. When the oceans die, they will begin formulating a plan at that point...

Congratulations for the thread, it`s a very important issue... i cann`t even think in other more relevant... it has to do with all we are, we would/could be and all what is going on and will go on Earth.

Keep hopes, we had techonolgies, we are extremely creative and adaptive... we need quite more wisdom nevertheless ; )

S. who C.

No, Shyla, that's bullshit. There was no lack of cordiality in my post (AC 402245). You couldn't reply to any of the points I made, so you resorted to childish insults ("Maybe if you got your head out of your ass you might see!"). But I'm not surprised that you cannot get anything right.

Can be cleaned... but rather not the main problem... and of course i don`t think something like a widespread ocean death is even reachable prior to our complete erasure, despite fisheries are indeed collapsing due to resource mismanagement and historical overexploitation.

Nope, the main problem has to do with the "continental life", which happens to be the most diversified one, and also the most proach and relevant (in a direct way) to human life... freshwater systems in most developed areas are really that mesh related above... if not much worse. When we protect the continental/fresh water environments through a series of already available technologies and measures, then the oceans will not be any longer at peril... rise up the efforts, because we are very far from the goals... this has plenty of sides, a series of issues must be addressed in order to achieve real sustainability and stop downgrading the very processes that gives us life.

I think we would advance a lot working on the following lines, however i advice this might not be a comprehensive review of what we need:

1- Recognize the incompleteness of our socioeconomic paradigms and upgrade them to wholistic and comprehensive ones, which don`t forget including any substantial part of the entire cycles of production/consumption. Develop ways to evaluate and assign responsabilities/costs concerning the ecosystem services and their sustainance.

2- Move away from our strong dependence on resources and energies that are not renewable, and thus rest in the exploitation of finite fields which eventually would consume. Think on real productivity, rather than extraction, wherever is possible. Make a transition toward renewable energies and follow with the advances in processes efficience.

3- Move from societies full of ignorance and violence toward a society of truth and peace, where things as excesive pressure on the resources by means of overpopulation and overconsumption can be handled and effectively downplayed through education, planification, and rational, constructive and really intelligent collective actions. Make tolerance and comprehension more relevant than chauvinisms and selfish behaviours.

4- Support education and scientific research, make stronger connections between the planners and the experts that can gave effective advices on their fields.

Maybe speculation is not worthy of a "really sustainable" society and the actual market economy is to be gradually changed into something much better, in search for sustainability and justice in the long run.

I think that if we solve or substantially advance on these areas, we could easily be expecting things as the following:

1- Socioeconomic equilibria, rather than speculation and instability.

2- Peace, instead of wars.

3- Enlightment and discoveries, unimaginable improvements, instead of crash with a brick wall or fall from a cliff.

4- Preservation of a worthy way of live and sharing of a worthy level of life within the world. Reduction of the shameful and widespread differences.

5- Reduction of poverty (or elimination of such a thing?), illnesses, pains and crimes worldwide.

6- Reduction on most birth rates and thus the possibility for getting away from the natural curves and being really intelligent in a collective perspective. Stopping never ending struggle and get to rational planning.

7- Increase in the spiritual development/growth and hapiness of human beings.

8- Stop and possible recession on the environmental transformation and destruction of the ecosystems and the biodiversity on the developed areas.

9- Implementation of high technologies and sound plans of wholistic nature, with very long perspectives in oppostition to very short and short perspectives.

10- Life on the planet will go on and evolution will continue. Natural places would be recovered in a large part and communities may get increasingly local and autonomous for its resources and feeding requirments, while it may get increasingly globalized concerning knowledge and sharing of human cultures. Globalize equity and security, not risks and doom.

11- The water systems would be cared as precious, as they should be, and environmental hazards, ecosystem destruction through pollution and human health problems could all be reduced and even avoided.

12- Air pollution may be stopped or strictly controlled.

13- Forest could be grown in finite areas for finite and well planned requirements, while naturally forested areas are protected and/or recovered.

14- The food chain would have been cleaned from most toxic human produced chemicals. This could largely be done with some measures and within certain societal behaviours.

15- May we, some day, will go far from Earth? Are we alone as a civilization in this area of the galaxy? For how long?


Best hopes for a better humankind,
A scientist who cares

you got style shyla, you always manage to monster the soon to be extinct little trolls.

We just finished watching Planet Earth.
I say everybody grow hemp!
Trolley cars and horse and buggys.
Steam engine trains.
No cars, NO SUV's!
Grow hemp for everything, a very versatile plant.
Close all MacDonalds!