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Crypto bottoms when we have our next "world event" similar to covid pandemic

 
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The smart crypto miners claim their mining payments as income on their taxes and pay taxes on the initial earning. Then when the price drops you can sell for a capital loss to help offset a capital gain of a stock. Since the IRS counts mining payments as income, and counts crypto as a property, it can be a capital gain or capital loss when you sell it.
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Mr. Cheese, you posted this on 4/27/21:

"Sell XRP when it hits 5$ in the end of august/beginning of september. It will be above 3.50$ ...

XRP bullrun ends in August very near 5$. It will be above 3.50$ for 3-4 days, tops. You heard it here first."

XRP didn't get anywhere NEAR $5 or $3.50 as you forecasted. WHY SHOULD ANYONE TAKE YOU SERIOUSLY?

Are you another hopium salesman like Bo Polny, making wild predictions that hardly ever come true and then cherry-picking your VERY RARE correct calls? Even a broken clock is right twice a day!

where you told this with XRP drops from 1.70, you are registered here since 6the may 22 and XRP was at this points long time below 1$?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84680340


Thread: XRP-tards, get in here. (Crash imminent? Final XRP moon in august 2021)

it was an old account i deleted. Got tired of being "the xrp guy."

i correctly said it would crash to 50 cents but it took a lot longer than i thought it would. took 2 months i think instead of the 3 weeks in the original thread posting.

towards the end of the thread i said it would go from 50 cents back up to at least 1.07. I wasn't sure it would go higher than that. It ended up going to 1.40 or 1.50 or something before crashing again.
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i've done a few crypto threads and in all of them i have been pretty accurate. i noticed that i got viscerally attacked a lot and told how wrong i was all the time by ACs. Doesn't matter how accurate I am. Just straight attacked.

Starting to think some of them are crypto whales of some type who don't want regular people to trade the markets properly. There really is lifechanging money to be made here if you know what you're doing. Those with the money don't want us to have it.

Maybe i'm wrong on that... but i lean towards that being the case.
 Quoting: Mr Cheese



If your crypto can't scale on chain massively, then you are pedaling a fraud.

You are gambling and defrauding suckers in an unregulated industry.

Investing in technology would require investing based on technical merit among other things.

There is no technical merit to the tech investments that you are pushing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84707180


I agree with you. It's all a ponzi scheme. Every single crypto. But the ponzi scheme is going to go up a lot in about 4-5 weeks.

I'm happy buying tulips to sell them to someone else at a later date.
 Quoting: Mr Cheese


How does any crypto meet the definition of a "Ponzi Scheme?"

They don't.

Crypto markets are like any other market - based on the "Greater Fool" theory.

All markets depend on a Greater Fool to come along and buy your asset for more than you paid for it.
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Then new lows in 2023. Fed won't pivot for close to 6 months.
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crypto and NFTs are basically like stocks. Actually NFTs are more like stocks than crypto is because NFTs usually come with perks for supporting an organization (like being a shareholder of a game development company for example).
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Just a note:

Weekends are truly the wild, wild west for crypto trading or scalping. The "adults" are definitely not in charge.

That said, I have made bank trading weekends, but it is far more stressful than during the week.

Likely has a lot to do with the weekly candle close Sunday evening.
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of course, the real emotional attachment, Mr. Cheese,
is needing TA to work so you can call the bottom,
buy in and make a huge pile of money as BTC
skyrockets to $70k for no reason other than "4 year
cycles".
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What you think of Cardano?
I feel that it will be the chosen platform.
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OP

are you familiar with Crypto Savy's bubble pop pattern?
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

I don't see a 10k bottom. I'm leaning towards a 3.5k - 4k bottom. Given the Fed rate will keep hiking and won't pivot until the fed rate flips 2yr bond rate.

https://imgur.com/a/gk0aw2I

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The smart crypto miners claim their mining payments as income on their taxes and pay taxes on the initial earning. Then when the price drops you can sell for a capital loss to help offset a capital gain of a stock. Since the IRS counts mining payments as income, and counts crypto as a property, it can be a capital gain or capital loss when you sell it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84599932


yeah, that's it. they selling at a loss as a tax
writeoff, not because they're out of cash.

lmao
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Is there a way to make free money that does not involve retards?

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BTC is the horse and buggy of crypto and will end up on the scrap heap. No amount of tortured technical analysis will save its unsustainable infrastructure from going to zero.
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Just a note:

Weekends are truly the wild, wild west for crypto trading or scalping. The "adults" are definitely not in charge.

That said, I have made bank trading weekends, but it is far more stressful than during the week.

Likely has a lot to do with the weekly candle close Sunday evening.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Yeah it's definitely that. It's other things too. The bitcoin futures/ETFs are closed on weekends too. The stock market is closed on the weekends too. The us dollar index(dxy) is closed on saturday and sunday too. The dxy is a big part of how bitcoin knows what to do. All these things are tied together.

I agree that trading on weekends is suicide unless you have a rock solid harmonic pattern. I usually don't trade weekends anymore. I can always wait until the next weekly candle opens.
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Is there a way to make free money that does not involve retards?

pigchef
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Yes. Government contracting.
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So I should put all my life savings into Bitcoin next month?
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So I should put all my life savings into Bitcoin next month?
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No!!
would rather have it & not need it then need it & not have it
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OP

are you familiar with Crypto Savy's bubble pop pattern?
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

I don't see a 10k bottom. I'm leaning towards a 3.5k - 4k bottom. Given the Fed rate will keep hiking and won't pivot until the fed rate flips 2yr bond rate.

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Dukembg


I have a surprise for you. You are right that this chart is going to crash again. It's going to crash again in march of 2024 when we have our next fake pandemic just in time for our next fake presidential elections.

Look at the 2019 starting in this chart. It's the top of the last cycle. When this chart bottomed, it was the march 2020 covid crash.

I've said it a billion times but they are going to lock us down again. It will either be in 4-5 weeks, or it will be in march 2024. Or both.
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Ok I will byte

which one of the 1000s of crypto will be adopted and used by the public

epiclol

none
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BTC is the horse and buggy of crypto and will end up on the scrap heap. No amount of tortured technical analysis will save its unsustainable infrastructure from going to zero.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84030676


btc is the horse and buggy, you are right. But if that horse and buggy wasn't dragging all the shitcoins up and down then they would all just die and never do anything ever again.

Bitcoin is the only thing that generates fomo among normies. You think they give a shit about cardano or litecoin or matic? lol. Bitcoin-mania is what creates crypto bubbles. Without bitcoin, this entire game ends.
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Ok I will byte

which one of the 1000s of crypto will be adopted and used by the public

epiclol

none
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77736523


in my opinion, none of them will ever be adopted by normies.

in my opinion, they are all ponzi schemes.

in my opinion, all that adoption talk is the 'jim jones koolaid' and you just love how sweet it goes down.
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It's not hard money like gold

Because it depends on internet and electricity

Ppl don't trust it
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miners shutting down and going bankrupt. glp wont let
me post the link but just search on the keywords.

says that some of the public miners are suspected of
already being bankrupt. Net selloff of minet bitcoins
was huge this week. Selling into collapse is a sign
of panic, not strength.

i predicted it in july.

costs rising + income falling = bankruptcy.

who's gonna pay BTC's $16B electricity bill?

.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84650941

Bitcoin bottom never hits until the whales have put shallow pocketed miners out of business. we're talking 3-6 months of unprofitable mining. Maybe longer now that things are more established.
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It's not hard money like gold

Because it depends on internet and electricity

Ppl don't trust it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84712241


People don't trust it for good reason.

If you don't hold it (you're not the one with exclusive access to it, whatever it may be, and able to deny that access to others), then you don't own it.

The only way (literally, the only possible way) to hold a digital asset is by first creating it, and then not sharing it with anybody. Ever. Period.

If it's been shared, then it's been copied, and if it's been copied, then you can't possibly own it. In fact, you can own any crypto as much as you can own these words.

This is not just semantics. It also has nothing to do with copyright, or some such (bullshit) law. It is about the very nature of information.

All cryptos, by nature, have been shared (as information) with others, if for no other reason, then simply to be "verified".

You can't just make up a random string of bits, and then claim that that string is 1 BTC (worth $20K, or something), can you? It first has to be "verified" (copied) by some "authority".

All the "enrypted" wallets, "exchanges", and similar crap, come only after crypto bit-string has been "verified".

Honestly, I think that no "authority" in the case of cryptos (undoubtedly NSA for BTC and ETH, Russian and Chinese equivalents for some other "coins"... and just your regular, run-of-the-mill scammers for all the rest) cares, in the slightest, about crypto's "value" (which is the same as the value of dead cat's head in that Zen koan).

All they care about is copying whichever bit-string they're interested in into their database, and once that happens... they can do literally anything they want with it... including selling it to an even bigger fool than the one that gave it to them (for "verification") in the first place.

I sometimes try to put myself in the heads of all the crazies who believe that cryptos are actually worth something (on their own, and completely independently of the task they were designed to perform, like code-breaking, solving hard mathematical problems for military purposes, and such), but... I find those levels of (literal) insanity far too great even for me... and I'm used to playing a lunatic... from time to time, when needed.
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Ok I will byte

which one of the 1000s of crypto will be adopted and used by the public

epiclol

none
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77736523


in my opinion, none of them will ever be adopted by normies.

in my opinion, they are all ponzi schemes.

in my opinion, all that adoption talk is the 'jim jones koolaid' and you just love how sweet it goes down.
 Quoting: Mr Cheese


Yep, every single one is a Ponzi scheme. They will ALL go to zero.
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The lotto got to over $2 billion and people will always have FOMO (i.e. that mind set: "what if I bought Shiba between August 2020 through April 2021 and sold on October 25, 2021.") A person literally could have bought $1 worth of Shiba and that could have turned to over $15 million if sold at the right time.

Saying Crypto will crash and be wiped out is like saying the lotto and gambling are going away. Neither will happen because people love to gamble.

And government regulations won't shut crypto down either or they would have already. The reason is they can't. They may cause some hurtles but like in the past, don't cause any real impact what so ever.
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Thoughts on PAXG?

I would like exposure to gold but can’t risk having physical and don’t want to pay to store some, so this or vault chain(kitco) seemed like a decent option, but was worried about PAXG’s reliance on ETH.
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nope, your wrong. each major short pullback has been around 72-78% decrease, longest wave was 14 months, shortest was 9 months, all up swings are much shorter in length but frequently exceed 600% from the previous bottom.

we are nearing the bottom, but not yet, some way to go yet before id say "BUY!" look for the $13000 mark to start seeing price rejection and dont keep your trade live for longer than 4 months!
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miners going bankrupt but Bitcoin has magical shit inside
like algorithms and difficulty engine and shit so it don't
need no network or power so buy now before it goes to
$1 billion dollars!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84713038


Bitcoin doesnt have magical powers. it can go to any price it wants to.

Technical analysis says it is likely bottoming on the next drop to 9500-10k area. I trust T.A. more than anyone's feelings.

You're obviously not a trader and you don't do T.A. so you are trapped in your emotions. I've murdered my emotions. Completely numb. Clear. It's how you need to get in order to make sound decisions.
 Quoting: Mr Cheese



ahhh, but Mr. Cheese, I WAS a trader.

that's how I know that sometimes you don't buy the dip.

but you go ahead do your TA into no cashflow and see how
it turns out.

lmao
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key word, "was." 90% of traders lose money. if you were in the 10% then you wouldn't have stopped.

i trade patterns. i dont care about cash flow or bitcoin miners. Descending triangle says 10k area is the bottom. The golden ratio (1.618) says 9575$ is the exact bottom.

How funny is it going to be for you if 6 months from now... bitcoin bottoms at 9575$ on the december 2022 full moon (8th-11th)... exactly as i say?

You'll say i got lucky. Well, i'm going to say that i'm not lucky. I'm obsessive. You have no idea how much time each day I spend thinking about this stuff. It is my entire life. It is all I think about all day, every day. For the last 6 years exactly like that. When I'm with my friends, i'm thinking about this. When i'm cruising the city, i'm thinking about this. When I go to sleep, i fall asleep thinking about this.

Did you put in that much effort on this?
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The lotto got to over $2 billion and people will always have FOMO (i.e. that mind set: "what if I bought Shiba between August 2020 through April 2021 and sold my:on October 25, 2021.") A person literally could have bought $1 worth of Shiba and that could have turned to over $15 million if sold at the right time.

Saying Crypto will crash and be wiped out is like saying the lotto and gambling are going away. Neither will happen because people love to gamble.

And government regulations won't shut crypto down either or they would have already. The reason is they can't. They may cause some hurtles but like in the past, don't cause any real impact what so ever.
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Thoughts on PAXG?

I would like exposure to gold but can’t risk having physical and don’t want to pay to store some, so this or vault chain(kitco) seemed like a decent option, but was worried about PAXG’s reliance on ETH.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84714127


Funny you should mention that...

Was looking at options that would allow for self custody off-exchange, no risk exposure to Stablecoins (eg Tether) and protection from fiat inflation to ride out a possible wide scale Crypto collapse. PAX Gold is an ERC20 token and seemed to fit the requirements.

Haven't executed on this idea yet, but would also be curious what others think.

One could also just buy gold and physically hold it too with Crypto if you wanted to go that step further too.
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Just a note:

Weekends are truly the wild, wild west for crypto trading or scalping. The "adults" are definitely not in charge.

That said, I have made bank trading weekends, but it is far more stressful than during the week.

Likely has a lot to do with the weekly candle close Sunday evening.
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Well, that may be what's happening:






GLP