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All will face judgment, which “judgment” will you choose?

The first throne you may stand before (believers) is the Judgment Seat of Christ and takes place immediately after the Rapture in Heaven which occurs before the Marriage Supper of the Lamb (the greatest celebration in history) and before His Second coming at the end of the Tribulation. This judgment is of believers who are not under condemnation but rather judged and rewarded for their good works on earth. Those who stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ are already saved and their eternal salvation is not in question.

The Great White Throne Judgment is where unbelievers and non-followers of Christ stand before Him (raised in bodily form from death and hell) after His Millennial reign to be judged and cast into the Lake of Fire where death and hell themselves will be cast as well.

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I'm just a defiled porno wanker fornicating with mankind and doing that which is not beneficial. So i'm fucked!
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You couldn't handle the truth about yourself if you tried!
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I hope i will one day that stupid floor borg cares more about sheep then a retard retrying a patch for itself.
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I actualy wanted a star knob house made of concrete and that empty horizon view as backyard view l:
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5 stars OP!
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There is a golden ticket to the greatest celebration ever in the history of mankind and to stand before God not in condemnation but rather to receive heavenly rewards He has for you.

This golden ticket is free, has already been paid for on your account, and all that is required of you to carry that ticket which rewards you with indescribable peace and eternal salvation is simply to believe and trust on Christ like a 3-year old child would trust His parent or guardian in a crowd of people to navigate him to safety. Just trust in Him, that’s it. That’s all He wants, your faith in Him. Everything else will fall into place.
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5 stars OP!
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This should be pinned at the top. Thank you OP!
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This should be pinned at the top. Thank you OP!
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It’s the most important question one can ask him/herself, there is no question greater that a human being can ask themselves. There are only two choices.

It also wraps up the debate regarding the Rapture as well.
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Would you stand before a god who sends transgressors to Hell for eternity, -without a chance of parole?
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Would you stand before a god who sends transgressors to Hell for eternity, -without a chance of parole?
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It is God’s will that no soul shall perish. Think about that, God wants no one to go to hell. It is the person who sends themself to hell, not God.

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2 Peter 3:9


What 99% of Christians or anyone for that matter miss regarding the word and meaning of “repentance” Biblically is it doesn’t mean someone has to be perfect or sinless.

Do you know how many times the words “repent from your sins” is found in the actual Bible (KJV)?

Zero. None.

The phrase “Repent of sins” is not in the Bible, not once. Biblical Repentance means to turn to God, that’s it. By doing so and believing in Jesus Christ as your Saviour and believing that God so loved the world and us, that He gave His one and only son to bare our sin and all of mankind’s sin (while He lived a perfect, sinless life) to be crucified for us and that He raised Him from the dead to take away all of mankind’s past, present, and future sins, you’re saved.

It was the perfect sacrifice of God to atone for our filth and the admission given to us to be in His holy presence for eternity. There was no other way. Those who refuse His gift are judged for their sins rightly and individually (because they refuse God’s gift to us through Christ Jesus who died freely so as no works are required from any of us) and are therefore condemned. It’s that simple.

Those saved and who stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ have no sins recounted, all are blotted out and forgotten by God. Only good works, however few or many, are brought forth to the table. Can you say peace of mind?

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All will face judgment, which “judgment” will you choose?

The first throne you may stand before (believers) is the Judgment Seat of Christ and takes place immediately after the Rapture in Heaven which occurs before the Marriage Supper of the Lamb (the greatest celebration in history) and before His Second coming at the end of the Tribulation. This judgment is of believers who are not under condemnation but rather judged and rewarded for their good works on earth. Those who stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ are already saved and their eternal salvation is not in question.

The Great White Throne Judgment is where unbelievers and non-followers of Christ stand before Him (raised in bodily form from death and hell) after His Millennial reign to be judged and cast into the Lake of Fire where death and hell themselves will be cast as well.

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No one in their right mind believes that crap.

"No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path." -- Buddha

"All these sufferings are man-made and it is within man's power to put an end to them. God helps by facing man with the results of his actions and demanding that the balance should be restored. Karma is the law that works for righteousness; it is the healing hand of God." -- Nisargadatta
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And I want to clarify above about repentance. The way true repentance comes for a person regarding sin is believing in Christ and what He did for you and turning fully to God. It isn’t until a person does this as to when that person will truly be set free. You’ll no longer want to sin, it will become repugnant to you. Any addictions, habits, terrible thoughts, etc will begin to vanish and this is the working of God in you, not your own doing. It’s supernatural and the definition of being “born again”.

What the world calls addictions is what God calls spiritual strongholds. This is why so many with drug and alcohol addictions among the multitude of other vices that plague humanity are only truly healed by God. Once a person realizes they are a slave, how much the sin is harming and in many instances killing them physically, mentally, and spiritually and the fact that only God’s hand can heal you is when their journey begins. He is the architect and this is by design to make you stronger than you could ever have imagined.

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All will face judgment, which “judgment” will you choose?

The first throne you may stand before (believers) is the Judgment Seat of Christ and takes place immediately after the Rapture in Heaven which occurs before the Marriage Supper of the Lamb (the greatest celebration in history) and before His Second coming at the end of the Tribulation. This judgment is of believers who are not under condemnation but rather judged and rewarded for their good works on earth. Those who stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ are already saved and their eternal salvation is not in question.

The Great White Throne Judgment is where unbelievers and non-followers of Christ stand before Him (raised in bodily form from death and hell) after His Millennial reign to be judged and cast into the Lake of Fire where death and hell themselves will be cast as well.

https://imgur.com/a/FH2tcoL

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No one in their right mind believes that crap.

"No one saves us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path." -- Buddha

"All these sufferings are man-made and it is within man's power to put an end to them. God helps by facing man with the results of his actions and demanding that the balance should be restored. Karma is the law that works for righteousness; it is the healing hand of God." -- Nisargadatta
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Define right mind.
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Would you stand before a god who sends transgressors to Hell for eternity, -without a chance of parole?
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It is God’s will that no soul shall perish. Think about that, God wants no one to go to hell. It is the person who sends themself to hell, not God.

Ask most people if they believe in Hell and they'll say "No!", -so they don't believe they are sending themselves to Hell. If they believed in Hell, those same people would choose not to go there.

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2 Peter 3:9

How do you come to repentance if you don't believe in the Christian God?

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Believe.

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Would you stand before a god who sends transgressors to Hell for eternity, -without a chance of parole?
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It is God’s will that no soul shall perish. Think about that, God wants no one to go to hell. It is the person who sends themself to hell, not God.

Ask most people if they believe in Hell and they'll say "No!", -so they don't believe they are sending themselves to Hell. If they believed in Hell, those same people would choose not to go there.

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
2 Peter 3:9

How do you come to repentance if you don't believe in the Christian God?

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My replies are in bold above.
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To answer your first response, we as Christians are commanded to spread the word of God and to give the good news of the Gospel. We also must warn people of hell because it’s a reality and it’s for eternity.

Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
2 Corinthians 5:11

I personally believe that God works on everyone regardless of age, background, or past history at various points throughout their lives as to His existence and no one has ever woken up in hell and not known in their hearts that the reason they are there is of their own doing. That would be unjust and God is not unjust. God gives us all so many chances in that all we must do to receive eternal salvation is simply believe and turn to Him.

I’ve heard so many testimonies of Muslims knowing in their hearts the religion they followed was wrong and there was another way but continued in their belief because of familial ties and upbringing. I talked to a woman at a restaurant one time a year and a half or so ago who told me she was Mormon and I told her about Jesus as the only way to eternal salvation and she told me she wouldn’t change herself nor would she warn her kids because she had already raised them in that religion and that what was done was done which blew my mind. She knew the truth in Christ and how wrong Mormonism was but didn’t care and was obstinate in her refusal to warn even her own children and to even change herself. Maybe she has since but it was amazing to me listening to her and I simply nodded but maybe planted a seed in her mind for the future. That’s all we can do.


Let me ask you, why don’t most people commit atrocities daily like rape or murder? Why don’t most simply pick up a gun, walk into a residence, and demand money and all items of value? Why is sin judged by severity in society? Why is molesting a child not viewed in the same light as stealing a candy bar if we’re all just carnally-minded animals looking to one-up each other and get as much as we can from this life and simply just cease to exist upon death?

Why would another man willingly die for another man whom he doesn’t even know?

God within a person is why.


Unless given over to a reprobate or a depraved mind (which is God’s doing and does happen to people), we all are blessed with a conscience and that is God’s innate way of tugging at our spirit to not commit such acts mentioned above. The conscience is inherit in all of us regardless of religion or creed. Most people inherently know right from wrong through their conscience and this is by God’s design and is God in us. I also believe another innate gift God gives us all is the need and want to find Him. Most people lie sadly regarding their feelings and past history regarding God but the fact of the matter is God is just and would never send a person to hell on His own accord, He works in every single life on earth and the Bible says not even a sparrow falls to the ground without His knowledge. How much more do you think He works in people’s lives giving them chance after chance? I also feel God allows some people to live who otherwise would stand no chance of not entering hell because of future prayer by someone who intercedes for that lost soul. Prayer is so powerful.

The fact is, every single human being on earth fears death. It isn’t until truly believing on Christ and having faith in Him that the fear of death is lifted. And again, this isn’t your own doing, this is by God’s own doing in you through faith.

Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, he likewise shared in their humanity, so that through death he could destroy the one who holds the power of death (that is, the devil), and set free those who were held in slavery all their lives by their fear of death.
Hebrews 2:14-15


As to your second response, the answer is simply you cannot. It’s not your own doing but God working within you. You must first ask God and believe. Once you’ve made this step, true repentance comes by way of Christ working in you.

I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
John 15:5
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First, I’d like to thank you for your very thorough reply to my query. I really appreciate the time and effort you are devoting to helping me with this.

I have 3 objections to the Christian concept of Hell:
1) In our modern approach to crime, compassionate societies meet out punishment proportionate to a crime. The ideal is not to be either too lenient nor too excessive. (We don’t agree with cutting off a thief’s hands or stoning an adulteress to death.)
2) The severity of punishment depends on whether the individual had extenuating circumstances. (He may not have known he broke the law, honestly disagree with it, or he may be insane, etc.)
3) The actual goal of punishment is rehabilitation.

(I’m speaking of ideals here, not actual implementation, which I consider highly flawed in today’s society.)

Instead, God implements an uncompassionate form of punishment:
1) A certain amount of sin will not prevent us from salvation, but for any amount greater, we are subjected to eternal damnation. It’s like an ON/OFF switch. At least the Catholics believe that, for those without mortal sin, God provides purgatory for them to eventually gain Heaven.
2) Although, in theory, God remains beside each person, prompting them to do what is necessary to gain salvation, my 50+ years doing missionary work, and volunteer work for the needy and criminals, and my extensive experience with non-Christians and atheists does not indicate God’s guidance of most people toward Himself. I am a clinical psychologist and gave myself to Jesus at the age of 7, so I think I would know something about this.
3) What sick demented mind and heart would subject anyone to eternal suffering? What is the purpose? Either you want to rehabilitate or you just destroy their existence. Sadism isn’t necessary.

“I personally believe that God works on everyone regardless of age, background, or past history at various points throughout their lives as to His existence and no one has ever woken up in hell and not known in their hearts that the reason they are there is of their own doing. That would be unjust and God is not unjust. God gives us all so many chances in that all we must do to receive eternal salvation is simply believe and turn to Him.” Blah, blah, blah.

You take this on faith, not paying attention to what is really happening inside most other people; you are biased in your observations. You can’t believe otherwise even if a mountain of counterevidence fell on you. That’s OK to do as a Christian, but it doesn’t make you right, and luckily, it doesn’t hinder your chances of salvation.

Also, If God is the perfect teacher, why are so many of His students failing the class? I suspect that YOUR idea of what the criteria are for passing the class is largely incorrect.

As a Christian, I don’t find the concept of Hell, as defined in Christianity to be necessary. God wants people who seek to love Him as completely as possible, (This is the way I loved my own Father.), -not those who do His will because they fear His wrath. However, if I died and found that the God I love is sadistic, I would reject Him, even if He would send me to Hell.

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