University Of Idaho- 4 Students Dead- Affidavit Page 60

Man in the TikTok video doesn't have the physicality of someone who could easily overpower tall, athletic Ethan.

All the killer would have had to do is to study online RE descriptions and pictures of the house and then briefly attend one of their frequent parties.

Or maybe he made a drug sale, pot or X while scoping at the layout of the bedrroms.


Pick a Sat night when all were out partying. Wait for them in the darkness of the woods behind the house for all to come home drunk. Then wait again for the lights to be turned off.

Many cases hushed up where White victims were brutally murdered because a relative/friend were rumored to be snitches or cheated the cargel (Surenos) out of money. Doesn't take much to want to send a message.

College campuses all have their active drug dealers.

Anyone else remember a tweet pretty early on in the investigation. I think it was a reporter that stated that ethan and xana walked in on 2 guys getting it on at the frat house sigma chi party that night. I believe the tweet insinuated this is what caused a fight at the party that night and the fight involved ethan. Anyone just wondering if anyone remembers seeing it or has a screen grab of it.

Or you could arrive into town a couple of weeks beforehand - recon the area for best access - where the cams are etc where the vacant properties are - it's a very small town and so walking or biking wouldn't take a lot of time - you can see the houses online easily enough. Work out your route - leave spare shoes/ clothes up a tree to change into to throw dogs off your trail. The homes are overviewed from Walenta at the back - yomp in then yomp out.



People finding doors locked and unlocked etc - just nip in help yourself to food and a wash etc; not hard if you live that way.

There is a reason Signa chi went right to their social media and selectivly deleted their posts/photos back to 2018. Not all photos just selected photos back to 2018. I checked sigma chi social media accounts right after the murders happened and saw alot of photos/posts. Then later I went to check again and their accounts were locked. I checked again a day later, the accounts were open and missing alot of stuff that was on them.

Never had time for the College Industrial Complex Scam and after reading that I'm glad I'm self-made. These Frat houses sound like demon-spawning grounds for the Deep State. Probably Freemason owned and operated.

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Pastor has good intentions of making Moscow ID a "Christian Town." Now please tell me how he's going to curtail the wild partying and all that it involves. Isn't pot still illegal?

Sounds like a satanic cult to me, universities cost big money, kids attend and are encouraged to join these secret societies, everyone knows there is alcohol and drugs, weird rituals, hazing "accidents" that result in murder. Etc. They pledge their life to one another to be a brother or sister.. All with no accountability for anyone. Definition of a cult.

Any smart kid would avoid these like the plague. I find it interesting that ethans mom said at the end of her memorial speech with all the families something along the lines of her family is vandal strong. I thought that was unreal...if one of my kids was brutally murdered at college, I wouldn't not be supportive at all. I would never step foot on that campus again. I surely wouldn't want my surviving two kids there. And why is she so sure her other two kids would be safe there? So why is she so understanding and telling them all to be kind to one another? To me, either she is batshit crazy or she knows something about what happened.

Look at the girls sorority website, all of their pictures look like advertising for call girls/human trafficking...maybe kaylee was on to something in that regard, her dad said she was looking into human trafficking and it is bigger than it seems. I'd be pissed off if my kid was displayed on there like that, totally inappropriate...this is school and a school is for learning. So what's really going on here?

I think the police were at the house well before the 911 call at 11.58 - they are being careful with their words - the fact a 911 call was not made until that time does not mean other calls weren't made or that people hadn't arrived:

All four were declared dead at 12.00pm as per coroner - so the first call can't have been at 11.58am - only the first call to 911 - which may well have been for an ambulance for a survivor in shock.


Police, paramedics, doctor, coroner all must have arrived prior to the death confirmation made at 12.00pm.





Another very interesting note is that the dog was not found in the property until that night - well - it says "that night" but doesn't clarify which night - it is implied it means the night of the 13th, which would lead you to ask - was the door the dog was found behind not opened earlier in the day when everyone was there?


If it meant the night before, but they don't want to say they were there the night before - then whyever not?


It is very possible someone turned up in the night and ran for help or emailed for help once they had run away.

It is possible someone rang the university security for help and they contacted the police:

Anyone entering the patio door would have seen Ethan if indeed it is true he was deceased on the floor of that room.


I think the police are trying to hide the truth by being vague about the truth and implying truths such as - no call to 911 was made until 11.58 - but that is not to say they were not present before that.

Dude seems legit to me, I was waiting him to fuck up on same sex couples and he answered correctly. Only watched a few minutes of it but I like how he moved in next to the Democrat national committee to troll them.

Agree, timeline is incorrect because coroner didn't arrive until after 5pm but they announced TOD at 12pm. So something else happened that they aren't telling or they just really messed this all up.

I think there was a neighbor that said his timeline and he stated that around noon LE was everywhere. So that makes sense with LE timeline of when they arrived. So that goes back to the roomates story does not add up.

Another point is that LE stated a call was placed to 911 from inside the house from a surviving roommates phone but it was not the surviving roommate that placed the call. And they are not releasing 911 call tape.

I am seeing that they were pronounced dead at 12PM - as opposed to the time of death being 12PM - when someone is found dead or dies - the coroner or a doctor needs to pronounce the death, which is different to estimating a time of death if no one was present to state what that time was.

If LE were already all over at noon - I doubt they all arrived within 2 minutes of the 911 call - which again I feel was for the ambulance for one of the surviving roommates experiencing shock.


Many unis have security - and it is quicker to call security than it is the police. I don't know if this is the case in Moscow Idaho or not.



A doctor must have been present to declare the people deceased at 12 - if the coroner didn't arrive until 5pm - in Idaho the coroner is required to attend in such circumstances.

It is possible one room mate went upstairs - went back down to the other room mate in a state of panic - or that the room mate who came upstairs dropped at the sight and someone present used their phone to call in as there was no doubt radio silence on this.

This is what I found interesting too. The LE first TV interviews and I believe they even put it out on press release that NO Medic entered or treated anyone there. The LE said they were the 1st to arrive on scene, went in a found 4 deceased then called for Detectives and coroner. The paramedics never entered or treated anyone there, they left.

To me it seems he was in charge of instigating and logistics. The mastermind of a team. Not dumb as he attempts to come across. Google to find he has many very specific and unusual skills and connections.

I am now wondering if someone else was in the house and managed to hide - maybe hide with the dog - in a room no one suspected anyone of being in.


I can't get past LE or anyone not finding the dog earlier in the day - why in the evening - "later that night".


I am wondering a few things - students often have friends crash over - and so maybe Maddie and Kaylee bunked up as a friend had the other room - plus also to be honest Kaylee's room was packed up for her leaving/ having left -



This scenario would mean that neither the killer/s nor the LE checked the unused room/s.


I feel the scene was beyond gruesome and that is one of the reasons for so much silence.

I understand the word being used is stabbing and not mutilation - but I have seen news reports using the word butchered - and the silence on the injuries is palpable.


You would presume the dog couldn't have come in later as the scene would be locked off.

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Essentially then - LE had between noon and five to decide how they were going to run things - the narrative - keeping as close to the truth as possible; I don't believe these were four stabbings of sleeping people - one or two who woke and tried to fend off a stabber.


I am concerned this is going to happen again - possibly in LA region / zone.

If the deceased were in locked rooms that had to be busted open - then why would LE not bust open all the doors, including unoccupied ones; how would they know which were and were not occupied.


Say for example Jack came over and they heard someone and hid - and he hid with the dog and locked the door - then he ran off after to get help - then why leave the dog - all day til the next night - that wouldn't make sense; there needs to be a scenario that makes some sense - at some level.

vicious attack obvious hates women butcher them then so turned off cant do sex that knife can be bought at harbor freight tools for $8.

What I find weird is the house had hardwood/laminate flooring. You can't tell me those rommies didn't hear a dam thing. My dogs toenails wake me up. So I still think the roomies especially D who was a volleyball player, so not so little. Did this with the help of either her boyfriend or maybe someone she was sleeping with. Some FB pages have said she was having a fling with Jack D. Kaylee's ex

I've said Keystone cops and Barney Fife as well. Just so backwards.

I can't find it now. But, yesterday someone in a FB group mentioned that X and E were known for selling MDMA. Not saying it's true. But, sounds plausible considering her mom is in jail for drugs. Could this be drug related? I will be looking for this post today.

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Speaks to Sigma Chi president

Interesting they mentioned someone who may have said they were sleeping - yet their light may have been on - there is only one person we know who actually said they were sleeping - wondering if there is any evidence of online activity or something like that - maybe trying to smoke someone out.


Twenty mins of body cam - guessing they mean police body cam - at first I thought it meant from when they went into the house - but then says or indicates - around 3am - indicating police close to the scene at that time - I wish they would tell you more.

Does anyone think that this could be a psyop? Has anyone seen any bodies? I think two of the kids were cremated. They could have staged everything and gotten out of Idaho. Why? Drug related? Who knows? This is highly unlikely, but people stage their own deaths all the time. Police could be searching for them if they came to this conclusion.

Or, could the girls have been given the date rape drug, that's why they made no sounds?

Just some thoughts since none of the info out there is adding up.

The only way that could be true would be if there was a known threat to the house - and the people have been taken to safety and a trap was set for the perps - and the perps are now dead/ compromised - proving the threat. If there was such a scenario - they may have gained info from the perp/s - such as - one housemate was to be killed in a different way and so on.


I would hate to say something wasn't true if it was true - and legally we are reminded not to do that. It is definitely wishful thinking.

I would comment further but feel it would be very unfair to do so.



I think for reasons like this, it is better not to comment or speculate on the possibility.