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Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing

 
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Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
Not true. Faith is Action based on Belief sustained by Confidence. The devil believes in God and trembles.
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
Does mortals disbelief matter?
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
The devil doesn't believe in God. The devil believes God's existence, but he believes in himself.
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
"Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen." - Hebrews 11:1

Faith leads to action, but the actions themselves are not faith. Two men can take the same action but for very different reasons.

For example,

"Some, to be sure, are preaching Christ even from envy and strife, but some also from good will; the latter do it out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel; the former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition rather than from pure motives, thinking to cause me affliction in my chains." - Philippians 1:15-17

The actions themselves are not faith.

Jesus and Pharisees both recited scripture, but the latter did not do so out of faith in God, but rather believing in themselves for their own selfish ambition.
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
The devil doesn't believe in God. The devil believes God's existence, but he believes in himself.
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You're confusing belief with faith. The bible says that the devil believes in God and trembles.
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Another example:

"And He sat down opposite the treasury, and began observing how the crowd was putting money into the treasury; and many rich people were putting in large sums. And a poor widow came and put in two lepta, which amount to a quadrans. And calling His disciples to Him, He said to them, 'Truly I say to you, this poor widow put in more than all those putting money into the treasury; for they all put in out of their surplus, but she, out of her poverty, put in all she owned, all she had to live on.'" - Mark 12:41-44
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The devil doesn't believe in God. The devil believes God's existence, but he believes in himself.
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You're confusing belief with faith. The bible says that the devil believes in God and trembles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4508956


You are confusing belief and belief in. Faith is belief in, not mere belief.

Where does Bible say demons believe in God?
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
WELL

if you do something against my interest - i am gods baby -

he will lift your hedge of protection

and demons will eat you at night

if you continue to play games with me

he will allow demons 7 times stronger to eat you 24/7

and if you still think its funny... guess what...

maybe you just should experience it
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
The heroes of faith in Hebrews were all noted for the actions they took in faith.
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
- you will lose your money, power..

- you will lose your business

- you will lose control over your reality

- everyone around you will talk and speak like me

until you get that what you are doing is pointless
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
You really have it all figured ourgoodevil
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
Good point

Thanks
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+ you go in mental prison of wicked thoughts originating from yourself attacking yourself until you blow yourself out of "the matrix"
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enough reason to fear
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
The devil doesn't believe in God. The devil believes God's existence, but he believes in himself.
 Quoting: Weyoun


You're confusing belief with faith. The bible says that the devil believes in God and trembles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4508956


You are confusing belief and belief in. Faith is belief in, not mere belief.

Where does Bible say demons believe in God?
 Quoting: Weyoun


James 2:19 - the devils also believe, and tremble. You believe ... ! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror.
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'Faith' and 'Belief' are the second cousins of Gnosis and live toothless smoking crack in trailer parks.
We have pretty much burned our bridges at this point. Unless you’re prepared to mindf*ck yourself, and gaslight yourself, and confess, and convert, there’s no going back to “normal” society (which we couldn’t go back to anyway, on account of how it doesn’t exist anymore) — CJ Hopkins
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Faith produces action but not all action is faith in God. A wolf-in-sheep clothing can fake action but his faith is not in God.

Cain and Abel both sacrificed to God, but God accepted Abel's but rejected Cain's, because God can see the heart and see Abel's faith (in God), but saw Cain's heart was wicked. God could see past the actions and see the heart and determine if the actions were truly out of faith (in God) or mere acting.
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The devil doesn't believe in God. The devil believes God's existence, but he believes in himself.
 Quoting: Weyoun


You're confusing belief with faith. The bible says that the devil believes in God and trembles.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4508956


You are confusing belief and belief in. Faith is belief in, not mere belief.

Where does Bible say demons believe in God?
 Quoting: Weyoun


James 2:19 - the devils also believe, and tremble. You believe ... ! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4508956


That verse does not show what you claim.

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." - John 3:16

If devil believes in God, he would be saved, but he does not believe in God, and nowhere does the Bible say he does.
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
still waiting on gods excuse for the millions of children that were kidnapped raped and eaten in underground dumbs?

seems like your god might be a piece of shit.
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
...

You are confusing belief and belief in. Faith is belief in, not mere belief.

Where does Bible say demons believe in God?
 Quoting: Weyoun


James 2:19 - the devils also believe, and tremble. You believe ... ! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4508956

Are you saying the devil doesn't believe in the existance of God?
That verse does not show what you claim.

"For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." - John 3:16

If devil believes in God, he would be saved, but he does not believe in God, and nowhere does the Bible say he does.
 Quoting: Weyoun
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
More word fuckery keeping people confused and blinded to their chains.
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
Does mortals disbelief matter?
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No. Whether or not you believe in God doesn't matter (except to Him because He loves you). What matters is whether He believes in you.

Last Edited by Horticulture on 11/22/2022 07:24 PM
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
"Jesus laughs at your blindness, knowing you will always be blind from birth since you are born blind."

Also Jesus laughs when you are sacrificed in his place?

Unbelievable.
Weyoun

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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
Believing in God is not the same as believing God's existence.

OP, you are playing games. A plain reading of the Bible is clear. Your mental gymnastics word twisting is only for obsufucation and confusion.
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
More word fuckery keeping people confused and blinded to their chains.
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We call it playing with semantics...
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More word fuckery keeping people confused and blinded to their chains.
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Subsitute "some type of physical movement" for "conclusion" to keep folks from accurately evaluating their proposals of reality.
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
Believing in God is not the same as believing God's existence.

OP, you are playing games. A plain reading of the Bible is clear. Your mental gymnastics word twisting is only for obsufucation and confusion.
 Quoting: Weyoun


I'm saying belief won't cut it alone. Faith requires action. I think it is you playing word games(just my opinion).
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
Not true. Faith is Action based on Belief sustained by Confidence. The devil believes in God and trembles.
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Belief is never the truth.. Faith is. Ok..
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
If you tell your gf that you love her, but you never DO anything to show that love, is she going to believe you?
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Re: Many Believe that Belief in God and Faith in GOD are the Same Thing
still waiting on gods excuse for the millions of children that were kidnapped raped and eaten in underground dumbs?

seems like your god might be a piece of shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83733339


So where were you and millions of others? What will all of us say when GOD asks,"Where have you been?" We all know where GOD and Christ stands from the Bible, about harming children, rape, incest, and murder. Do you know how wonderful and peaceful it is to be with GOD in Heaven where they went? A few minutes with GOD and Jesus Christ, in their love, is enough for them to forget their misery. But us, GOD will ask millions of us where were we? Will we ever do right?





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