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smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!

 
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I was taught in biology that life was formed from lightning striking pools of water containing amino acids but yet noone has ever recreated this "proof"
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The idea that something comes from nothing is retarded. Modern science operates on "shit happens" principles, which is preposterous.

a single sell is more advanced than our boy Darwin ever knew - and the sad reality for the godless priests of science is that there is a grand designer. God.
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But you are still saying something comes from nothing.
Just typing the word God and then demanding he exists is the definition of preposterous.
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I was taught in biology that life was formed from lightning striking pools of water containing amino acids but yet noone has ever recreated this "proof"
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[link to www.historicmysteries.com (secure)]
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err yea, and the universe was created in a big bang and just randomly unraveled into something that can support stars planets and carbon based life.

banana2

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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
I was taught in biology that life was formed from lightning striking pools of water containing amino acids but yet noone has ever recreated this "proof"
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[link to www.historicmysteries.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81036773


err yea, and the universe was created in a big bang and just randomly unraveled into something that can support stars planets and carbon based life.

banana2


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That’s not what I said

But way to totally ignore something that directly proves what you said wrong

Clearly you don’t want a discussion on facts and would rather be emotional
Enjoy!
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I was taught in biology that life was formed from lightning striking pools of water containing amino acids but yet noone has ever recreated this "proof"
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I was taught that in high school biology. It’s about the time I became suicidal and stopped thinking life or relationships had any meaning.
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So we know all life has in common a DNA code! But there is no explanation of how this originated and it cannot be reproduced in a lab.
So the simplest life currently known has 160k base pairs of DNA but where did this come from?

While Darwin may be correct about evolution that does not explain the start or the design!
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This is the irreducible complexity argument which I also believe as well.
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I was taught in biology that life was formed from lightning striking pools of water containing amino acids but yet noone has ever recreated this "proof"
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[link to www.historicmysteries.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81036773


err yea, and the universe was created in a big bang and just randomly unraveled into something that can support stars planets and carbon based life.

banana2


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That’s not what I said

But way to totally ignore something that directly proves what you said wrong

Clearly you don’t want a discussion on facts and would rather be emotional
Enjoy!
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I always notice that. They get emotionally unhinged when the idea of Santa not being real is a possibility…
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
I was taught in biology that life was formed from lightning striking pools of water containing amino acids but yet noone has ever recreated this "proof"
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I was taught that in high school biology. It’s about the time I became suicidal and stopped thinking life or relationships had any meaning.
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yes it's true, it is a demoralizing philosophy to teach kids that , why would you let strangers teach your kids such evil lies? the parents must be incredibly stupid ,they are so stupid they believe they are soulless protein blobs, maybe they are.

the people who enslaved you know what life is, they know what magic is.
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I was taught in biology that life was formed from lightning striking pools of water containing amino acids but yet noone has ever recreated this "proof"
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I was taught that in high school biology. It’s about the time I became suicidal and stopped thinking life or relationships had any meaning.
 Quoting: SafeandSound


yes it's true, it is a demoralizing philosophy to teach kids that , why would you let strangers teach your kids such evil lies? the parents must be incredibly stupid ,they are so stupid they believe they are soulless protein blobs, maybe they are.

the people who enslaved you know what life is, they know what magic is.
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Who are these people who enslaved them?
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
1 - Its not "lines of code", just RNA paired. This is important to mention to avoid a common misconception that people have, confounding it with computer code. It just isn't the same thing. It can from some perspectives be analogous but definitely not the same thing.
2 - Darwin was right. Species do evolve, this is the theory of evolution by natural selection. It has no role with abiogenesis(what you know as "where live came from").
3 - Abiogenesis is still a matter under study, and no, there's not a definitive answer for that. One of the hypothesis is the one you (kinda wrongly) quoted. It MAY have started like you've been "taught"(in quotes because it seems like you didn't quite understood it).

Whomever came up with the term "code" referring DNA/RNA should be hanged. They did a disservice to science and open the doors to an avalanche of conspiracy theorists/pseudoscience garbage.
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
1 - Its not "lines of code", just RNA paired. This is important to mention to avoid a common misconception that people have, confounding it with computer code. It just isn't the same thing. It can from some perspectives be analogous but definitely not the same thing.
2 - Darwin was right. Species do evolve, this is the theory of evolution by natural selection. It has no role with abiogenesis(what you know as "where live came from").
3 - Abiogenesis is still a matter under study, and no, there's not a definitive answer for that. One of the hypothesis is the one you (kinda wrongly) quoted. It MAY have started like you've been "taught"(in quotes because it seems like you didn't quite understood it).

Whomever came up with the term "code" referring DNA/RNA should be hanged. They did a disservice to science and open the doors to an avalanche of conspiracy theorists/pseudoscience garbage.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


clappa
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
In the multiverse theory every possibility occurs in an endlessly branching tree of separated universes while we experience a single line along those branches with each collapse of the quantum state in an observation

Naturally we exist along a branch in which life evolved unlikely as that might be
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
The first life was probably Ribonucleic Acid, the RNA molecule.

RNA could have formed by amimno acids natuarlly attaching, and lining, up on a kaolinate clay surface. Such a clay forms everywhere there is moisture and igneuos rock.

Once in place and linked together, RNA could have been flushed free into the ocean by tidal and river flood waters.

After the formation of the Earth, such a process could have taken place trillions of trillions of times in just a few million years.

Eventually one molecule could occur with the capacity to grow by chemically attaching free amino acids to itself, and to reproduce by continuing to grow after being mechanically broken into pieces by the turbulence of breaking waves.

Then, for example, one of those molecules could have occurred with a slightly improved way to chemically attach with free amino acids than it's sisters.

That's evolution.

Life is easy to start. It's reaching the complexity of multicellular organisms that's hard. That takes a stable planet that retains standard temperature and pressure for four billion years. Our Earth is very rare.
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HahahahahahahHAhHHHHHHH

This is conjecture laced with bullshit. Lots and lots of bullshit.
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
Ska is a biological super computer and a super data storage
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Ska is a biological super computer and a super data storage
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DNA not ska
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Ska is a biological super computer and a super data storage
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So we are computers
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
One of decoded line looks like

if (soul->body->nationality_bron == 'poland')
soul->body->be_stupid_fucker = true;
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
How Did Life Begin? RNA That Replicates Itself Indefinitely Developed For First Time

[link to www.sciencedaily.com (secure)]
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
Intelligent design followed by evolution is a competing theory

As opposed to

Abiogenesis followed by evolution

We don't know which is right
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Ska is a biological super computer and a super data storage
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So we are computers
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Nope.
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
Intelligent design followed by evolution is a competing theory

As opposed to

Abiogenesis followed by evolution

We don't know which is right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84725494


To propose an "intelligent design", one first must present evidence for a designer. What you're proposing is nothing but creationism(magic) in a lab coat. Its not a "competing theory", simply an attempt by fanatics to sneak god and magic into science.
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
What about a virus?

"enveloped, positive-stranded RNA viruses with a genome of approximately 30 kb. ".

If each bit is a line of code for apples to apples...
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
Intelligent design followed by evolution is a competing theory

As opposed to

Abiogenesis followed by evolution

We don't know which is right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84725494


To propose an "intelligent design", one first must present evidence for a designer. What you're proposing is nothing but creationism(magic) in a lab coat. Its not a "competing theory", simply an attempt by fanatics to sneak god and magic into science.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Not trus

It's as sensible as proposing abiogenesis without proving or showing an example of that

Perhaps some form of life we are not even aware of came to exist by a process of which we are not aware and created primordial cells

Or perhaps a God

Those are both theories which are subject to possible falsification
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
[link to www.livescience.com (secure)]


So we know all life has in common a DNA code! But there is no explanation of how this originated and it cannot be reproduced in a lab.
So the simplest life currently known has 160k base pairs of DNA but where did this come from?

While Darwin may be correct about evolution that does not explain the start or the design!
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So the 144k dna bullshit was just that fake news, antivaxxers trying to say that the 144,000 number as related to the end times is the amount of base pairs or something and that the jab added an extra strand to make a triple helix lol fucking retards just about done with glp myself
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
Suppose we really did live in a simulation which most of the time time progressed according to rules some of which we've deduced and call the standard model

And yet sometimes the controller of the simulation can make abrupt changes outside of those rules

Those that discount that possibility out of hand would not be able to formulate the most accurate understanding if their reality. Would THAT be science?

The primordial origins of life could be a case in point
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
Intelligent design followed by evolution is a competing theory

As opposed to

Abiogenesis followed by evolution

We don't know which is right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84725494


To propose an "intelligent design", one first must present evidence for a designer. What you're proposing is nothing but creationism(magic) in a lab coat. Its not a "competing theory", simply an attempt by fanatics to sneak god and magic into science.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Not trus

It's as sensible as proposing abiogenesis without proving or showing an example of that

Perhaps some form of life we are not even aware of came to exist by a process of which we are not aware and created primordial cells

Or perhaps a God

Those are both theories which are subject to possible falsification
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84725494


Check this out

100 000 years from now after we've been replaced by AI we created the old data storage has been lost

AI are trying to explain their origins by some sort of natural appearance of a primordial robot
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
Intelligent design followed by evolution is a competing theory

As opposed to

Abiogenesis followed by evolution

We don't know which is right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84725494


To propose an "intelligent design", one first must present evidence for a designer. What you're proposing is nothing but creationism(magic) in a lab coat. Its not a "competing theory", simply an attempt by fanatics to sneak god and magic into science.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Not trus

It's as sensible as proposing abiogenesis without proving or showing an example of that

Perhaps some form of life we are not even aware of came to exist by a process of which we are not aware and created primordial cells

Or perhaps a God

Those are both theories which are subject to possible falsification
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84725494


As mentioned, abigenesis is still under study and there is no definitive answer. However, in order to propose "god", evidence for a god must be presented. The "lightning into aminoacids pool", is something that we know are all existing, which is not the case for a god.

Panspermia(life came to earth by some foreign celestial body or fragment) is also one hypothesis that would explain life on earth, but not the beginning of life.

We don't rule out until explanations are exhausted, we rule in as hypothesis that which is existing.

"Perhaps an unknown process", is a valid hypothesis.
"Perhaps god" is not.
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
Intelligent design followed by evolution is a competing theory

As opposed to

Abiogenesis followed by evolution

We don't know which is right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84725494


To propose an "intelligent design", one first must present evidence for a designer. What you're proposing is nothing but creationism(magic) in a lab coat. Its not a "competing theory", simply an attempt by fanatics to sneak god and magic into science.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Not trus

It's as sensible as proposing abiogenesis without proving or showing an example of that

Perhaps some form of life we are not even aware of came to exist by a process of which we are not aware and created primordial cells

Or perhaps a God

Those are both theories which are subject to possible falsification
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84725494


As mentioned, abigenesis is still under study and there is no definitive answer. However, in order to propose "god", evidence for a god must be presented. The "lightning into aminoacids pool", is something that we know are all existing, which is not the case for a god.

Panspermia(life came to earth by some foreign celestial body or fragment) is also one hypothesis that would explain life on earth, but not the beginning of life.

We don't rule out until explanations are exhausted, we rule in as hypothesis that which is existing.

"Perhaps an unknown process", is a valid hypothesis.
"Perhaps god" is not.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


I think your philosophy of science must encompass the possible existence of God

The likelihood we ourselves may be able to create a simulation populated by self aware intelligent entities shows the necessity of this because your philosophy of science should be usable by those entities for them to ascertain increasingly more accurate understandings of their realiry
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
I lost the manual for my truck, so I tossed some ink and paper into the bathtub and awhile later pulled out a brand new one so I can program it's clock.
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
The answer is right in front of you and has been in front of humanity for thousands of years

*sigh*
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Re: smallest genome of any lifeform has 160,000 lines of code!
To say primordial life came cuz god would be sort of a worst case in terms of utility of such a theory cuz it doesn't have much preficti e or explanatory power

However a universe that propagates by simple rules almost all the time but occasionally can't be explained by Amy we can find may be the best we can do

U could call thar hod or just shit happens we don't know why

Certainly we could keep looking for some ki d of regularity that would simplify it but no guarantee we can





GLP