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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72769664 United States 12/08/2022 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was taught in biology that life was formed from lightning striking pools of water containing amino acids but yet noone has ever recreated this "proof" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76080579 The idea that something comes from nothing is retarded. Modern science operates on "shit happens" principles, which is preposterous. a single sell is more advanced than our boy Darwin ever knew - and the sad reality for the godless priests of science is that there is a grand designer. God. But you are still saying something comes from nothing. Just typing the word God and then demanding he exists is the definition of preposterous. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84895334 Belgium 12/08/2022 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was taught in biology that life was formed from lightning striking pools of water containing amino acids but yet noone has ever recreated this "proof" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76080579 [link to www.historicmysteries.com (secure)] err yea, and the universe was created in a big bang and just randomly unraveled into something that can support stars planets and carbon based life. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81113617 Canada 12/08/2022 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was taught in biology that life was formed from lightning striking pools of water containing amino acids but yet noone has ever recreated this "proof" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76080579 [link to www.historicmysteries.com (secure)] err yea, and the universe was created in a big bang and just randomly unraveled into something that can support stars planets and carbon based life. That’s not what I said But way to totally ignore something that directly proves what you said wrong Clearly you don’t want a discussion on facts and would rather be emotional Enjoy! |
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User ID: 81103575 United States 12/08/2022 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was taught in biology that life was formed from lightning striking pools of water containing amino acids but yet noone has ever recreated this "proof" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76080579 I was taught that in high school biology. It’s about the time I became suicidal and stopped thinking life or relationships had any meaning. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83899610 United States 12/08/2022 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.livescience.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76080579 So we know all life has in common a DNA code! But there is no explanation of how this originated and it cannot be reproduced in a lab. So the simplest life currently known has 160k base pairs of DNA but where did this come from? While Darwin may be correct about evolution that does not explain the start or the design! This is the irreducible complexity argument which I also believe as well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72769664 United States 12/08/2022 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was taught in biology that life was formed from lightning striking pools of water containing amino acids but yet noone has ever recreated this "proof" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76080579 [link to www.historicmysteries.com (secure)] err yea, and the universe was created in a big bang and just randomly unraveled into something that can support stars planets and carbon based life. That’s not what I said But way to totally ignore something that directly proves what you said wrong Clearly you don’t want a discussion on facts and would rather be emotional Enjoy! I always notice that. They get emotionally unhinged when the idea of Santa not being real is a possibility… |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84852625 United States 12/08/2022 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was taught in biology that life was formed from lightning striking pools of water containing amino acids but yet noone has ever recreated this "proof" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76080579 I was taught that in high school biology. It’s about the time I became suicidal and stopped thinking life or relationships had any meaning. yes it's true, it is a demoralizing philosophy to teach kids that , why would you let strangers teach your kids such evil lies? the parents must be incredibly stupid ,they are so stupid they believe they are soulless protein blobs, maybe they are. the people who enslaved you know what life is, they know what magic is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72769664 United States 12/08/2022 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was taught in biology that life was formed from lightning striking pools of water containing amino acids but yet noone has ever recreated this "proof" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76080579 I was taught that in high school biology. It’s about the time I became suicidal and stopped thinking life or relationships had any meaning. yes it's true, it is a demoralizing philosophy to teach kids that , why would you let strangers teach your kids such evil lies? the parents must be incredibly stupid ,they are so stupid they believe they are soulless protein blobs, maybe they are. the people who enslaved you know what life is, they know what magic is. Who are these people who enslaved them? |
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User ID: 84679204 Brazil 12/08/2022 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 - Its not "lines of code", just RNA paired. This is important to mention to avoid a common misconception that people have, confounding it with computer code. It just isn't the same thing. It can from some perspectives be analogous but definitely not the same thing. 2 - Darwin was right. Species do evolve, this is the theory of evolution by natural selection. It has no role with abiogenesis(what you know as "where live came from"). 3 - Abiogenesis is still a matter under study, and no, there's not a definitive answer for that. One of the hypothesis is the one you (kinda wrongly) quoted. It MAY have started like you've been "taught"(in quotes because it seems like you didn't quite understood it). Whomever came up with the term "code" referring DNA/RNA should be hanged. They did a disservice to science and open the doors to an avalanche of conspiracy theorists/pseudoscience garbage. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72456071 United States 12/08/2022 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 - Its not "lines of code", just RNA paired. This is important to mention to avoid a common misconception that people have, confounding it with computer code. It just isn't the same thing. It can from some perspectives be analogous but definitely not the same thing. Quoting: MaybeTrollingU 2 - Darwin was right. Species do evolve, this is the theory of evolution by natural selection. It has no role with abiogenesis(what you know as "where live came from"). 3 - Abiogenesis is still a matter under study, and no, there's not a definitive answer for that. One of the hypothesis is the one you (kinda wrongly) quoted. It MAY have started like you've been "taught"(in quotes because it seems like you didn't quite understood it). Whomever came up with the term "code" referring DNA/RNA should be hanged. They did a disservice to science and open the doors to an avalanche of conspiracy theorists/pseudoscience garbage. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84725494 United States 12/08/2022 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Naturally we exist along a branch in which life evolved unlikely as that might be |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84895405 United States 12/08/2022 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first life was probably Ribonucleic Acid, the RNA molecule. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78227030 RNA could have formed by amimno acids natuarlly attaching, and lining, up on a kaolinate clay surface. Such a clay forms everywhere there is moisture and igneuos rock. Once in place and linked together, RNA could have been flushed free into the ocean by tidal and river flood waters. After the formation of the Earth, such a process could have taken place trillions of trillions of times in just a few million years. Eventually one molecule could occur with the capacity to grow by chemically attaching free amino acids to itself, and to reproduce by continuing to grow after being mechanically broken into pieces by the turbulence of breaking waves. Then, for example, one of those molecules could have occurred with a slightly improved way to chemically attach with free amino acids than it's sisters. That's evolution. Life is easy to start. It's reaching the complexity of multicellular organisms that's hard. That takes a stable planet that retains standard temperature and pressure for four billion years. Our Earth is very rare. HahahahahahahHAhHHHHHHH This is conjecture laced with bullshit. Lots and lots of bullshit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84725494 United States 12/08/2022 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How Did Life Begin? RNA That Replicates Itself Indefinitely Developed For First Time [link to www.sciencedaily.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 84679204 Brazil 12/08/2022 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Intelligent design followed by evolution is a competing theory Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84725494 As opposed to Abiogenesis followed by evolution We don't know which is right To propose an "intelligent design", one first must present evidence for a designer. What you're proposing is nothing but creationism(magic) in a lab coat. Its not a "competing theory", simply an attempt by fanatics to sneak god and magic into science. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84725494 United States 12/08/2022 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Intelligent design followed by evolution is a competing theory Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84725494 As opposed to Abiogenesis followed by evolution We don't know which is right To propose an "intelligent design", one first must present evidence for a designer. What you're proposing is nothing but creationism(magic) in a lab coat. Its not a "competing theory", simply an attempt by fanatics to sneak god and magic into science. Not trus It's as sensible as proposing abiogenesis without proving or showing an example of that Perhaps some form of life we are not even aware of came to exist by a process of which we are not aware and created primordial cells Or perhaps a God Those are both theories which are subject to possible falsification |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56184244 Canada 12/08/2022 12:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.livescience.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76080579 So we know all life has in common a DNA code! But there is no explanation of how this originated and it cannot be reproduced in a lab. So the simplest life currently known has 160k base pairs of DNA but where did this come from? While Darwin may be correct about evolution that does not explain the start or the design! So the 144k dna bullshit was just that fake news, antivaxxers trying to say that the 144,000 number as related to the end times is the amount of base pairs or something and that the jab added an extra strand to make a triple helix lol fucking retards just about done with glp myself |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84725494 United States 12/08/2022 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Suppose we really did live in a simulation which most of the time time progressed according to rules some of which we've deduced and call the standard model And yet sometimes the controller of the simulation can make abrupt changes outside of those rules Those that discount that possibility out of hand would not be able to formulate the most accurate understanding if their reality. Would THAT be science? The primordial origins of life could be a case in point |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84725494 United States 12/08/2022 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Intelligent design followed by evolution is a competing theory Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84725494 As opposed to Abiogenesis followed by evolution We don't know which is right To propose an "intelligent design", one first must present evidence for a designer. What you're proposing is nothing but creationism(magic) in a lab coat. Its not a "competing theory", simply an attempt by fanatics to sneak god and magic into science. Not trus It's as sensible as proposing abiogenesis without proving or showing an example of that Perhaps some form of life we are not even aware of came to exist by a process of which we are not aware and created primordial cells Or perhaps a God Those are both theories which are subject to possible falsification Check this out 100 000 years from now after we've been replaced by AI we created the old data storage has been lost AI are trying to explain their origins by some sort of natural appearance of a primordial robot |
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User ID: 84679204 Brazil 12/08/2022 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Intelligent design followed by evolution is a competing theory Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84725494 As opposed to Abiogenesis followed by evolution We don't know which is right To propose an "intelligent design", one first must present evidence for a designer. What you're proposing is nothing but creationism(magic) in a lab coat. Its not a "competing theory", simply an attempt by fanatics to sneak god and magic into science. Not trus It's as sensible as proposing abiogenesis without proving or showing an example of that Perhaps some form of life we are not even aware of came to exist by a process of which we are not aware and created primordial cells Or perhaps a God Those are both theories which are subject to possible falsification As mentioned, abigenesis is still under study and there is no definitive answer. However, in order to propose "god", evidence for a god must be presented. The "lightning into aminoacids pool", is something that we know are all existing, which is not the case for a god. Panspermia(life came to earth by some foreign celestial body or fragment) is also one hypothesis that would explain life on earth, but not the beginning of life. We don't rule out until explanations are exhausted, we rule in as hypothesis that which is existing. "Perhaps an unknown process", is a valid hypothesis. "Perhaps god" is not. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84725494 United States 12/08/2022 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Intelligent design followed by evolution is a competing theory Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84725494 As opposed to Abiogenesis followed by evolution We don't know which is right To propose an "intelligent design", one first must present evidence for a designer. What you're proposing is nothing but creationism(magic) in a lab coat. Its not a "competing theory", simply an attempt by fanatics to sneak god and magic into science. Not trus It's as sensible as proposing abiogenesis without proving or showing an example of that Perhaps some form of life we are not even aware of came to exist by a process of which we are not aware and created primordial cells Or perhaps a God Those are both theories which are subject to possible falsification As mentioned, abigenesis is still under study and there is no definitive answer. However, in order to propose "god", evidence for a god must be presented. The "lightning into aminoacids pool", is something that we know are all existing, which is not the case for a god. Panspermia(life came to earth by some foreign celestial body or fragment) is also one hypothesis that would explain life on earth, but not the beginning of life. We don't rule out until explanations are exhausted, we rule in as hypothesis that which is existing. "Perhaps an unknown process", is a valid hypothesis. "Perhaps god" is not. I think your philosophy of science must encompass the possible existence of God The likelihood we ourselves may be able to create a simulation populated by self aware intelligent entities shows the necessity of this because your philosophy of science should be usable by those entities for them to ascertain increasingly more accurate understandings of their realiry |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84725494 United States 12/08/2022 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To say primordial life came cuz god would be sort of a worst case in terms of utility of such a theory cuz it doesn't have much preficti e or explanatory power However a universe that propagates by simple rules almost all the time but occasionally can't be explained by Amy we can find may be the best we can do U could call thar hod or just shit happens we don't know why Certainly we could keep looking for some ki d of regularity that would simplify it but no guarantee we can |