“If you stock your pantry, you aren’t living by faith. I’m waiting for the rapture.”

Do you really think they are celebrating Christ here or some rebranded Roman celebration?

The RCC celebrates his birthday at the same time as Saturnalia. Do you think this was a coincidence on the part of Rome? The sad part is most other so called Christian churches follow the lead of the Roman Catholic Church. They effectively did away with God's appointed days and implemented their own.

Here is a link from the History channel that may clue you to the origins of Christmas.

[link to www.history.com (secure)]

Jer 10:2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

Jer 10:3 For the customs of the people [are] vain: for [one] cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

Jer 10:4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

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LETS FLY AWAY!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

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Your purchases are tracked
Your actions are tracked
Your visits to the gun store are known
Your pharmaceuticals are tracked and known
Your conversations are monitored
Your relationships are mapped
They all form your threat matrix
They know where you go and when you go there
Fuel food prices are used to control your movements

Noah was a prepped and a survivalist.

Prepper!!! Effin autocorrect.

Its not a pagan roman celebration, if you cared to look at the video you would know. The whole video is about this and what youre saying here is false. Which means you could have saved yourself writing this.

punch line : I sent two boats and a helicopter

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Are you saying I have to BELIEVE in the pre-trib rapture theory in order to experience the pre-trib rapture? Please provide scriptural passage for that.

The video starts out saying the Roman emperor set the day on purpose as the same date as Sol Invictus or the Birth of the Sun.

Then he goes in to say that the emperor copied a previous established observance and changed it to coincide with Son Invictus.

First documented reference to Christmas celebration was 336 by Rome.


After this He goes into math of when Gabriel announced (Unsupported) the birth of Christ to come up with 9 months to December 25th and the whole time saying it has nothing to do with pagans. Lots of speculation with no written proofs or references.

Here is what we do know. The emperor set the date and Christians from the RCC followed it. Just look at how they celebrate. Just like Jeremiah said not to do. With decorated pine trees and wreaths.

In addition look how ishtar is celebrated in place of passover. complete with bunnies, eggs and fertility.

Now unlike the Birth of Christ they should have no problem calculating passover since it is laid out how in the Bible yet they like to change God's appointed days to their own pagan days.

You really believe this is ok? I know that people will celebrate with their family traditions but should the church support it?

Exo 12:14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

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There have been many good passages already quoted in this thread. If you will not read them, then what is the point of posting more?

No, but the bible does teach the rapture. The issue here is how to get trough to people that refuse to accept that.

I celebrate Christmas. I always will unless I am 'convicted' not to my the HS. Never has this happened in 63 years. It is more of a tradition in my family and yes, we do honor Jesus' birth at this time.

It is a time of joy, peace and love for us. In away it is two holidays blended into one; the secular side and the spiritual side.

If one finds this holiday wrong, that is between them and God. It is not something to argue about, imho

God bless you and yours

It doesn't say it. Only to be born again

The romans celebrated it in August, then moved this to december at the time theres evidence that christians started celebrating december 25. Since you for some reason find it extremely hard to pick this up from a video, maybe in written text will make it simpler for you?

[link to www.thegospelcoalition.org (secure)]

So evidence is that pagan rome started celebrating birth of the sun at december 25 to stamp down christians. And as you see here, it is just an attemt to figure out the birthday of Jesus.

Then you bring up ishtar for no reason. Well i agree bunnies and eggs have nothing to do with easter, christians mark easter for Christs resurrection.

So yes i think celebrating christmas and easter is perfectly fine. Your attacks on these celebrations are things i hear from others but it doesnt hold up to scrutiny. And the bible is clear we are free to chose what we want on celebrations.

So if you dont want to celebrate it, fine. But if you do want to celebrate it, that is also fine.

Honestly, I agree with both points of view.

If there is a pre-trib rapture Hallelujah! Seriously, this would be awesome

If there isn't one, then we all must be strong in our faith and have some preps.

You aren't going to change anyone's mind on their stance on the timing of the rapture. Just feel good about knowing they are saved and will see ya up there one way or the other.
God Bless you

Christ is the Passover lamb not the easter bunny. Passover is the correct day, Not easter.

The rapture is clear, and it should give you peace of mind, cause it means we're soon out of here. Judith said it though, theres been posted so much here its really no point going on about it.

God bless you too!

Things arent as easy as youre taught to believe, heres an article on why its NOT an error to use easter in the bible:

[link to www.kjvtoday.com (secure)]

This was just Justtme and myself talking about the purpose of the tribulation. I submit that these false feasts will be purged during the tribulation and we will be refined. Although the pre-tribbers believe the Holy Spirit will be gone I believe He will guide us.

So the sacrifice of Christ was not enough in other words, you need to earn your way into heaven.

It is simple. God taught his feasts and said they were forever. I get that without an altar and priests these feasts cannot be properly followed but Jeremiah wrote that we should not follow the traditions of heathens and before you post a new link to follow, Jeremiah used the christmas tree as an example what not to do. I am sure you will post some article why it is not a christmas tree but it is.

Good luck with breaking those laws. Sealed people do not purposely sin.

Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?

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Ahh and now you think old testament law is still in effect for christians, even after showing from scripture that we should not let ourselves be judged by the likes of you.

You prove atleast to me now beyond any doubt that you are not a christian. You do not have the Holy spirit, and that explains why your have taken your militant stand against the rapture and are unable to comprehend scripture.

Rom 2:13 (For not the hearers of the law [are] just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

You doubt and do not understand Paul.

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James 2:10 - "For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all."

So i bet you think Paul, the Moses of the new testament that taught perfect obedience to law, had alot of fights with James, right? Or could it be youre taking passages out of context and talking nonsense?

So have you kept the whole law, or is there anywhere you have stumbled?

Still at it, demon?

You know your time is short.

The demon here is you, and we christians know your time is short. How does the prospect of hell make you think about life?

The only way to follow the whole law is if the Holy Spirit is guiding you.

Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do [them].

Do you believe this only applies to old testament believers and not you because you are in the raptured church?

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Think John would fight Ezekiel?

1 John 1:8 - "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us."

Which means the truth is not in you.

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