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thread for honest discussion on what I feel is right around the corner. I started a thread on this a while back and it was overrun by the same couple of people spamming who are completely unable to converse as adults on this site and simply insult.

We are told Biblically to Watch and encourage one another, not tear each other down with insults.

My biggest fear are for those that vehemently deny God’s promise to rescue His bride and in their obstinate denial, are left behind due to their open denial whether it be misunderstanding simple scripture and/or pride for whatever reason. What a tragedy. So please, have an open-mind and learn the truth.

With that said, the first bit of scripture below alone should go ahead and finish forever the debate of a Rapture and I’ll explain why-



But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.
Matthew 24:37-41


The Rapture is argued by many as the Second Coming scripturally but the above verse(s) puts this question to rest by this very simple question. What will life be like per scripture during Christ’s Second Coming in judgment? It will not be people eating and drinking, having fun, marrying and giving in marriage. No, that’s how life is today, right now at this very moment.*** I would venture close to 98% or more of the 8 billion living on this earth presently aren’t expecting or anticipating a rapture (minus the so-called “elite” who knows it’s coming) nor were they expecting a flood back then hence Jesus’ comparison.




First off, Christ’s Second coming in judgment will be after the seals are opened, vials poured out and the worst wrath of God has already been laid upon mankind and this earth which at that time will be nearly inhabitable, whatever is left. That little bit of mankind left when Christ touches down on earth in judgment will nearly all have the mark of the beast and will all be under mind-control and enlisted as a part of Satan’s armies all across the world to war with Christ.

Secondly, why would Christ follow up the mentioning of how life on earth will be (during the Rapture) with exactly what will happen during the Rapture ie one man taken, the other left and one woman taken while the other is left? Because it’s the great Harpazo that Satan doesn’t want you to know is coming.

So that scripture alone above without any other scripture proves Christ is talking about the Rapture or the rescue of His bride which is said to be “encouraging” and not Christ’s Second Coming which is going to be horrifying for those on earth at that time (His bride will be gone).
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Also, please feel free to share any Rapture dreams you’ve had or have heard of, I’ve seen many popping up as of late. The below fellow I listened to and it’s really amazing. He’s very honest if you take the time to listen to him. Just four months ago he didn’t even know what the word Rapture meant. God bless!



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Get right with Christ this very second, not in a little bit. Not tomorrow.
Not maybe I’ll get to it after the weekend. Do it now.

Listen, do not risk being lost eternally forever. Trust me, do it now.

Fall to your knees, confess your sins, acknowledge you need a savior and that you need His righteousness to cover you. That’s why He came down to earth and died for you, He took His last breath on the cross and took yours, mine, and all of mankind’s sins with Him when he descended down to hell for three days and He did so to leave them there. The gift is free and paid for to keep you from the pits of hell, take it. He loves you.

Jesus is your best ally, your best friend. It’s the only reason any of us are here on earth living, to be with God after our time living in this fallen world. Jesus alone holds the keys to Heaven and hell. Call on Him now because the Rapture can happen at any second. Any second.

Please, just call upon him. He seeks a relationship with you, that’s it.

I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
John 15:15

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motherfucking copyright lol. what a fucking stupid world.

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And he said: “Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 18:3-4

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Yes, very soon. Pretrib for sure.
Very very soon.

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how many more honest discussions..

rapture when Jesus rides his white horse taking 2 billion meat suit people to heaven is not possible.. Heaven is not above the clouds.. and gravity would prevail and 2 billion of you would make nasty splats on the ground..

Meat does not go to heaven.. it is spirit that does.
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takeheed blackcat For those of you who would like to know more about the Rapture here are some interesting and well written Chick illustrated tracts on this important subject.

kitty WHERE DID THEY GO?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

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kitty LETS FLY AWAY!... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]

kitty THINGS TO COME?... [link to www.chick.com (secure)]
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Get right with Christ this very second, not in a little bit. Not tomorrow.
Not maybe I’ll get to it after the weekend. Do it now.

Listen, do not risk being lost eternally forever. Trust me, do it now.

Fall to your knees, confess your sins, acknowledge you need a savior and that you need His righteousness to cover you. That’s why He came down to earth and died for you, He took His last breath on the cross and took yours, mine, and all of mankind’s sins with Him when he descended down to hell for three days and He did so to leave them there. The gift is free and paid for to keep you from the pits of hell, take it. He loves you.

Jesus is your best ally, your best friend. It’s the only reason any of us are here on earth living, to be with God after our time living in this fallen world. Jesus alone holds the keys to Heaven and hell. Call on Him now because the Rapture can happen at any second. Any second.

Please, just call upon him. He seeks a relationship with you, that’s it.

I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
John 15:15

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there are trillions of planets with human mind Christ has never been too... Christ did not start a religion and his teachings have been deliberately crucified.

Nobody comes from God who is real every starts a religion and then tells people they must believe in that person to get to heaven.
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How could Jesus be talking about the rapture to his followers (His ministry was to Israel)

yet Paul 'showed' us the mystery of the rapture? The gentiles, as we will not be here for Jacob's trouble..

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How could Jesus be talking about the rapture to his followers (His ministry was to Israel)

yet Paul 'showed' us the mystery of the rapture? The gentiles, as we will not be here for Jacob's trouble..

rightly divide the Word, study
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his ministry was to the entire planet and he survived the cross and went elsewhere..

He bestowed his Spirit of Truth.. the comfortor on ALL FLESH.. and created no religion at all.
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One of our forum members was raptured yesterday :(
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Jesus' earthly ministry was explicitly to Israel

see Matthew 15:24

so then how can you apply a rapture passage onto Jacob, when Jacob is to endure the Tribulation?
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Jesus' earthly ministry was explicitly to Israel

see Matthew 15:24

so then how can you apply a rapture passage onto Jacob, when Jacob is to endure the Tribulation?
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It was to this world.. the whole world.. he could only work in one place at a time...

Israel was a good loation in terms of countries and traffic.. People please. Your bible is NOT holy.. lots of error making you belief some rot in fact.

Providing bible links is NOT proof of any thing.
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Jesus' earthly ministry was explicitly to Israel

see Matthew 15:24

so then how can you apply a rapture passage onto Jacob, when Jacob is to endure the Tribulation?
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It was to this world.. the whole world.. he could only work in one place at a time...

Israel was a good loation in terms of countries and traffic.. People please. Your bible is NOT holy.. lots of error making you belief some rot in fact.

Providing bible links is NOT proof of any thing.
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Matthew 15:24 says Jesus was here for the lost sheep of Israel

you can say whatever you want though unfortunately
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I just want people to put themselves in this position for a moment and realize how bad it’s going to be when the Rapture occurs. No one in their right mind should even risk wanting to go through what the Bible states (God states) as the worst time ever in human history and the worst time in the future of humanity moving forward millennial reign). Giving your life to Christ is the very simple solution here to save you from unthinkable horrors.

Think about the unimaginable terrors that have occurred throughout history and they can’t blush at what the Tribulation has in store which could begin at any second, literally.

Please feel free to add to the list.

Just two weeks after the Rapture-

There are roughly 100,000 airline flights that occur daily not including private jets and various personal aircraft. Think about those believers piloting these aircraft when they disappear.

Roughly 115 million cars on the road everyday in the US alone, think about the car accidents when believers operating these vehicles disappear.

Think about the injuries, the fires in various parts of the US and all over the world for that matter?

Pure anarchy.

What about people in hospitals? Nurses, doctors, etc. that are no longer here.

Police and firefighter services in cities will be all but nonexistent.

Looting will be at an all-time high. Lawlessness will be at an all-time high. Rape, murder, the worst dregs of humanity will be roaming which will in turn bring out the worst of the people who are decent human beings left behind.

You’re talking individuals with zero hope and nothing to lose.

Think about trying to get a decent night’s sleep with having to look over your shoulder?

Communications, commerce via waterways, railway shipments affecting food shipments and water.

Sewage services. How about about hot water? A simple shower?

We’re talking just the first two weeks here of the Tribulation.

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Article was written in 1997 by an attorney with some of his thoughts, some interesting points.

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Rapture = Naked = Soulless = Mankind.

Mankind had overtaken 58% of the world.

32% are not yielding fruits and are perishing.

That mean less than 10% will make it back to heaven..

So explain to me again OP, where heaven? Is it up there? Is it down here? Is it on the left? Or on the right?

You do not understand the parables and did not like what the second coming pre-Christ had testify these parts, are you not with the Christ?

Nay for your lips are also far away from Lord Jesus!

And his disciples drew near to him and said, “Why do you speak to them in parables?”

Responding, he said to them: “Because it has been given to you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but it has not been given to them.

For whoever has, it shall be given to him, and he shall have in abundance. But whoever has not, even what he has shall be taken away from him.

For this reason, I speak to them in parables: because seeing, they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.

And so, in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah, who said, ‘Hearing, you shall hear, but not understand; and seeing, you shall see, but not perceive.'

For the heart of this people has grown dull, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, And should turn again, And I should heal them.


But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.

I tell you, many prophets and just men have desired to see what you see, they see and hear what you hear and have not heard." - Jesus in Matthew 13:10-17 Vulgate Bible


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I heard the voice of [Enoch] the Lord saying, 'Whom shall I send? Who will go for us? I said, 'Here am I, send me.'

And he said, Go and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not and see the vision, and do not know.

Blind the heart of this people, And its ears declare heavy, And its eyes declare dazzled, Lest it see with its eyes, And hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal him.

And I said, “For how long, O Lord?” And he said, “Until the cities are desolate, without an inhabitant, and the houses are without a man, and the land will be left behind, deserted.”


For [Jesus] the Lord will take the men far away, and she who will have been left behind will be multiplied in the midst of the earth.

If even a tenth [Son of man is below tenth with sons of men just below 33% and mankind at 58%], there will be a tithing within her [Queen 'Amezarak, Belial & Nefertiti' Elizabeth II], and she will be converted, and she will be put on display, like a terebinth tree and like an oak which extends its branches. And what will remain standing within her will be a holy offspring. - Isaiah 6:8-13 Vulgate Bible


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"And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing." - 2 Corinthians 4:3
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“But take heed to yourselves, lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life, and that Day come on you unexpectedly. For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth. Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”
Luke 21:34-36
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is currently ongoing, the criteria for being withdrawn is unknown as it doesn't appear to favor true believers anymore than other groups
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Go on, tell us the meaning of Luke parables..

And Jesus departed from the temple and went away. And his disciples approached him, so as to show him the buildings of the temple.

But he said to them in response: “Do you see all these things? Amen I say to you, there shall not remain here stone upon stone, which is not torn down.”

Then, when he was seated at the Mount of Olives, the disciples drew near to him privately, saying: “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of your advent and of the consummation of the age?”

And answering, Jesus said to them: “Pay attention, lest someone lead you astray.

For many will come in my name saying, ‘I am the [Church of] Christ.’ And they will lead many astray.

For you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. Take care not to be disturbed. For these things must be, but the end is not so soon.

For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be pestilences, and famines, and earthquakes in divers[ity] places.

But all these things are just the beginning of the sorrows.

Then they will hand you over to tribulation, and they will kill you. And you will be hated by all nations for the sake of my name.

And then many will be led into sin, and will betray one another, and will have hatred for one another.

And many false prophets will arise, and they will lead many astray.

And because iniquity has abounded, the charity of many will grow cold.

But whoever will have persevered until the end, the same shall be saved.

And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached throughout the entire world, as a testimony to all nations. And then the consummation will occur.

Therefore, when you will have seen the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place, may he who reads understand,

then those who are in Judea, let them flee to the mountains.

And whoever is on the rooftop, let him not descend to take anything from his house.

And whoever is in the field, let him not turn back to take his tunic.

So then, woe to those who are pregnant or nursing in those days.

But pray that your flight may not be in winter, or on the Sabbath.

For then there will be a great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until the present, and such as will not be.

And unless those days had been shortened, no flesh would be saved. But for the sake of the elect, those days shall be shortened.

Then if anyone will have said to you, ‘Behold, here is the Christ,’ or ‘he is there,’ do not be willing to believe it.

For there will arise false Christs and false prophets. And they will produce great signs and wonders, so much so as to lead into error even the elect (if this could be).

Behold, I have warned you beforehand.

Therefore, if they will have said to you, ‘Behold, he is in the desert,’ do not choose to go out, or, ‘Behold, he is in the inner rooms,’ do not be willing to believe it.

For just as lightning goes out from the east, and appears even in the west, so shall it be also at the advent of the Son of man [Elijah the prophet].

Wherever the body shall be, there also will the eagles [ZWO & Elites] be gathered together.

And immediately after the tribulation of those days, the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

And then the sign of the Son of man [Enoch the Lord, God of hosts] shall appear in heaven. And then all tribes of the earth shall mourn. And they shall see the Son of man coming on the clouds of heaven, with great power and majesty.

And he shall send out his Angels with a trumpet and a great voice. And they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the heights of the heavens, even to their furthest limits.

So, from the fig tree learn a parable. When its branch has now become tender and the leaves have sprung forth, you know that summer is near.

So also, when you will have seen all these things, know that it is near, even at the threshold.

Amen I say to you, that this lineage shall not pass away, until all these things have been done.

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

But concerning that day and hour, no one knows, not even the Angels of the heavens, but only the Father.

And just as in the days of Noah, so also will be the advent of the Son of man [Elijah the prophet].

For it will be just as it was in the days before the flood: eating and drinking, marrying and being given in marriage, even until that day when Noah entered into the ark.

And they did not realize it, until the flood came and took them all away. So also will the advent of the Son of man be.

I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken up, and the other shall be left behind.

Two women shall be grinding together at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left behind.

Therefore, be vigilant. For you do not know at what hour your Lord will return.

But know this: if only the father of the family knew at what hour the thief would arrive, he would certainly keep vigil and not permit his house to be broken into.

For this reason, you also must be prepared, for you do not know at what hour the Son of man [Enoch the Lord, God of hosts] will return.

Consider this: who is a faithful and prudent servant, who has been appointed by his lord over his family, to give them their portion in due time?

Blessed is that servant, if, when his lord has arrived, he shall find him doing so.

Amen I say to you, he shall appoint him over all of his goods.

But if that evil servant has said in his heart, ‘My lord has been delayed in returning,’

and so, he begins to strike his fellow servants, and he eats and drinks with the inebriated:

then the lord of that servant will arrive on a day that he does not expect, and at an hour that he does not know.

And he shall separate him, and he shall place his portion with the hypocrites, where there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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And he was traveling through the cities and towns, teaching and making his way to Jerusalem.

And someone said to him, “Lord, are they few who are saved?” But he said to them:

“Strive to enter through the narrow gate. For many, I tell you, will seek to enter and not be able.

Then, when the father of the family will have entered and shut the door, you will begin to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, ‘Lord, open to us.’ And in response, he will say to you, ‘I do not know where you are from.’

Then you will begin to say, ‘We ate and drank in your presence, and you taught in our streets.’

And he will say to you: ‘I do not know where you are from. Depart from me, all you workers of iniquity!’

In that place, there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, yet you yourselves are expelled outside. - Lord Jesus in Luke 13:23-28 Vulgate Bible


Again, where is Ishmael the firstborn of Abraham who was son of man and Hagar who was daughter of men?

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Outside are dogs [soulless beasts of the earth a.k.a mankind] and drug users, and warmongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and everyone who loves to lie and practices falsehood [homosexuals and transgenders].

I Jesus sent mine angel [Elijah the prophet] to testify to these parts for you among the Churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star [Lord]. - Revelation 22:15-16 Vulgate Bible
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Here’s a beautiful dream from a little girl about the Rapture and going to Heaven, absolutely unreal! Video is short too. Little girl surprises mom about a baby in their home in Heaven that the mother hadn’t told her about that she terminated.

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Nice.
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how many more honest discussions..

rapture when Jesus rides his white horse taking 2 billion meat suit people to heaven is not possible.. Heaven is not above the clouds.. and gravity would prevail and 2 billion of you would make nasty splats on the ground..

Meat does not go to heaven.. it is spirit that does.
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Amen. I pray that those who don't know Christ get to know Him before Satan takes over the world for a short time. Many don't want to give up their worldly sinning lifestyles so they will bash anyone who talks about the Bible. Just think what a different world it would be if everyone lived by the 10 commandments. You wouldn't have the world's elite looting the economies of the world leaving billions to live in squalor and die. Look how evil and corrupt the world is becoming. The pace it's happening is frightening to any sane person.
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I am hoping it happens right now. I am not worthy though.
Thank you Jesus, for your mercy endures forever.
Thank you for shedding your blood to redeem a sinner like me.





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