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^^ WHEN IS THIS??
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We will be hidden through trouble (tribulation), but saved from His Wrath.
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God doesnt need a rapture to do that, he's been doing it for me already my entire life.chuckle
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Exactly.
Me too.

The Lord has gotten me out of plenty of trouble for one person.

Even more, He has comforted me terrifically through extreme sorrow and personal loss.

I can't wait to Thank Him personally and hug him like a grizzly bear.
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01/19/2023 07:22 PM
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And may the Lord make you increase and abound in love to one another and to all, just as we do to you,
so that He may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.

1Thessalonians 3:12,13

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When is this?

The Second Coming Return of Jesus Christ, right?

With who?!

How many?!
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When? -At the Coming of our Lord Jesus Christ

With who? - with all His saints

How may? - ALL His saints. All.
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^^ WHEN IS THIS??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84382615



We will be hidden through trouble (tribulation), but saved from His Wrath.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318


God doesnt need a rapture to do that, he's been doing it for me already my entire life.chuckle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83477934



Exactly.
Me too.

The Lord has gotten me out of plenty of trouble for one person.

Even more, He has comforted me terrifically through extreme sorrow and personal loss.

I can't wait to Thank Him personally and hug him like a grizzly bear.
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Bro your took the words right our of my mouth!

People ask why God allows for so much pain and suffering in the world and point their finger at God.

When actually if he didnt allow for it some of you stiff necked and hard headed would never make it!

Thats my Legacy too bro, i owe it all to Him because ive started over from nothing many times, having been crushed by the enemy. And he took me places i would have never went on my own, so he could show me things most dont know.

He showed me an evil in this world i wouldnt wish on my enemies. Took me to places where without Him i wasnt ever going home again. I can claim nothing more than being delivered faithfully by his unshakable hand even though i was never truly faithful to Him. He was always faithful to me, even when i wasnt to Him.
If you walk with Him you will never blame anyone again for whats going on.
I dont want a stupid rapture. He has prepared me for tribulation and is able to deliver me through it. Ive watched people my entire existence dying all around me because they refuse the light of the truth.
Ive watched many try to kill me, put me in ruins and try to destroy me anyway they can. Its a difficult path, life is difficult by design, navigating without truth is certain death.

Some of us have never not been engaged, we think outside the herd mind, understanding fully the evil that lurks day and night, making us the sheep dogs to protect the sheep.

The only way out of this fixed set of circumstance is by deliverance. We are dealing with powerful fallen angelic beings beset on mankinds destruction.
We were created a little below the angels, without Gods Holy Spirit there is no hope.

Truth and hope in effect are synonymous with each other.
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01/20/2023 01:12 PM
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Your confusion is separating Israel and the saints from the church. Also where is a 7 year tribulation defined in Revelation? I only see 3.5 years or forty two months.

Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty [and] two months.

Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.
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Your confusion is not realizing that those who are left behind and are forced to go through the 7-year Tribulation are not the church as Christ’s body/church is taken pre-tribulation in the Rapture and their removal starts the 7-year Tribulation itself.

Your confusion stems from claiming the church are those of Israel who by definition excludes them from His body of believers as they already deny Jesus as their Savior. The entire point of the Tribulation is for God’s chosen throughout the Bible to finally turn to Jesus and is why the Tribulation is centered around these people and why Christ’s bride is never mentioned in Chapters 4-20 of Revelation when these events of the Tribulation are described.

The denial of God’s son who is the only one who can save their soul as God’s wrath remains on them for their unbelief (John 3:36) for these people is the entire point of the Tribulation. Unbelievers not of God’s chosen who enter into the 7-year Tribulation and later through faith in Christ become saved and die are included as Tribulation Saints as well and had they believed before the Tribulation began, they would have been spared and been Harpazo’d.

The 7-year Tribulation is the last week of Daniel’s 70th prophecy. The first 3.5 years of the 7-year Tribulation is when the restrainer is removed and the man of lawlessness is revealed upon the world stage immediately after the pre-Tribulation Rapture where he ushers in a false peace (1 Thes 5:13) and those left “shall not escape” and are forced to endure the 7-year Tribulation as I’ve explained multiple times throughout this thread.

The 3.5 years you’re referencing above is the last 3.5 years of the 7-year Tribulation that I’ve already explained multiple times in this thread where Satan is cast out of Heaven permanently and assumes bodily control of his Anti-Christ puppet and forces the mark and all to worship him and those who oppose are hunted and killed.
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Where does it say any of the saints deny Christ in Revelation or Daniel?

Where does it say in Daniel the tribulation is 7 years?

The 144K are from Israel and certainly do not deny Christ.

The offspring of the woman of Rev 12 do not deny Christ yet they are persecuted.

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
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You mentioned I don't like responding to you and the above is why.

I truly am done deceiving myself as to your intentions of wanting to learn anything. You're interested in nothing but fruitless debate and argument, that's it. Nothing else. Not truth. That's all you've done throughout this thread regardless of evidence provided. You continually misinterpret scripture, respond with asking questions that a one second google search can answer such as playing a semantics game regarding the word "tribulation" in Daniel and the 7 year "Tribulation" which the description of this time period (mentioned in Daniel 9:25) as this time period of seven weeks is assumed universally as the 7-year Tribulation (also referred to as Jacob's trouble), ask questions that are completely irrelevant to what's being discussed as a response and make statements like the "144k are from Israel and certainly do not deny Christ" which is just an irrelevant statement (these people are not the bride of Christ and are scripturally appointed to this time period to spread the gospel of Christ during the Tribulation and all will die which has already been explained several times).

It's old and truth is not your objective. Good luck and please take your fruitless arguments elsewhere as the point of this thread was to help others learn of the truth.
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Here since you do not want to discuss other opinions in your thread. Contribute if you want.

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A Book of Remembrance

Then those who feared the Lord spoke to one another,
And the Lord listened and heard them;
So a book of remembrance was written before Him
For those who fear the Lord
And who meditate on His name.

“They shall be Mine,” says the Lord of hosts,
“On the day that I make them My jewels.
And I will spare them
As a man spares his own son who serves him.”

Then you shall again discern
Between the righteous and the wicked,
Between one who serves God
And one who does not serve Him.

Malachi 3: 16-18
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Post-Tribulation Rapture believer has Pre-Tribulation Rapture dream-

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drybones The time of Jacob's Troubles will soon be upon us.





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