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so that He may establish your hearts blameless in holiness before our God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.

1Thessalonians 3:13
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The 144,000

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Guess what, Archie?

Those are Jwes, not you.

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Why would that be confusion? The 144k are special among God snd Christ. They follow Christ where ever He goes and they are the only group seen returning with Christ.

Why do you believe the general Church is the bride?

The NT mentions 3 groups other than the bridegroom. These consist of the bride, friends of the bridegroom and the wedding guests.
 Quoting: Achduke7

They can’t be because the bride doesn’t go through the Tribulation as I’ve already proven. Christ’s bride must be removed before the Tribulation can begin. The 144,000 serve a special purpose during the Tribulation to spread the Gospel throughout all of the world. The bride is gone during the Tribulation.
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‘And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams.
Acts 2:17
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... ok ... now what if "technology" doesn't work during the time of seal 7? ...
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... during seal 7 the spiritual powers will be on the earth and operating OPENLY ...
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... what if there are no computers/electricity/internet operating? ... no neural links will function ...
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... won't the MARK have to be something else then? ...
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Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't.

When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise

Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time.
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... so kinda have to wonder what happened to THE MESSAGE of Yeshua? ... It seems to have little Power or Importance that the world is so dark ...
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Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't.

When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise

Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time.
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~Jazzy~,

Why do you hate me so much?

When you and I are standing before Yeshua,

what will you tell Him for the way you treat me?

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you know there's actual 0 proof this Jesus character even existed. There statues,poems, books, etc etc all coming from Jerusalem and Rome both before during and after this Christ's characters supposed existence and none of them mentioned him. If you read other books it's becomes quite easy to paint a picture on how you've been misled with relegion.

More so if you look further into the accounts of the Bible you can clearly find evidence the the so called 'lord' is a reptile creature who devoured man.

Don't blame me tho I'm just a guy who questions everything and reads everything from everywhere!

I have a priest friend who even agrees with these findings.

Never the less... You think Christ would return to this wretched planet? It's just a enlightened being. There where many before him and none of them be coming back as some singular Messiah to save everyone...

What I do agree with however is that the will be a rapture event at some point in my lifetime. But it's not from giving your power away to some god invented by those who seek to manipulate you. It's from dealing with your suppressed emotions, forgiving people, and not being a cunt! Making mental and emotional body pure by being a Devine expression . They will be the ones who 'are saved'
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The harpazo happens at the time of his second coming during the resurrection.
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Listen friend, I’m not going to bury this thread going back and forth with you with basic scripture, it’s obvious you’re unwilling to learn and you did this in my last thread. We’re not doing this again, I’m not going to touch your other false misinterpretations below the above. I answer your questions and you just gloss over and continue in argument and we’re not doing it again. A post-tribulation rapture is impossible and I’ve already proven this several times in this thread alone.

Good luck to you.
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Wow.

And you are so very wrong too, my brother.

2 posters in this thread have showed you correctly the difference between Tribulation and Wrath.

It's not 'semantics', it's taught by the Word of God.

We will be Ratured immediately before the Wrath of God falls.
Just as in the days of Noah, same pattern.

You are not saved from the tribulations caused by men.
Also, you are not appointed unto God's Wrath.

Therefore the Rapture is at the 6th Seal.


Good folks have tried to show you the error of your brainwashing, but you dismiss them and shut down the conversation for others to learn.

Check yourself brother. NOW.
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you know there's actual 0 proof this Jesus character even existed.
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Zero proof if you are an idiot who cannot do simple research.

There is abundant evidence in ancient writings concurrent with Jesus' time verifying His existence.


You also a flat earth tard?
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The harpazo happens at the time of his second coming during the resurrection.
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Listen friend, I’m not going to bury this thread going back and forth with you with basic scripture, it’s obvious you’re unwilling to learn and you did this in my last thread. We’re not doing this again, I’m not going to touch your other false misinterpretations below the above. I answer your questions and you just gloss over and continue in argument and we’re not doing it again. A post-tribulation rapture is impossible and I’ve already proven this several times in this thread alone.

Good luck to you.
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Wow.

And you are so very wrong too, my brother.

2 posters in this thread have showed you correctly the difference between Tribulation and Wrath.

It's not 'semantics', it's taught by the Word of God.

We will be Ratured immediately before the Wrath of God falls.
Just as in the days of Noah, same pattern.

You are not saved from the tribulations caused by men.
Also, you are not appointed unto God's Wrath.

Therefore the Rapture is at the 6th Seal.


Good folks have tried to show you the error of your brainwashing, but you dismiss them and shut down the conversation for others to learn.

Check yourself brother. NOW.
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Wow is right, did you read the entire thread? I proved it’s impossible for there not to be a pre-tribulation rapture, again it’s impossible. See if you can find where I explain it and get back to me friend. It’s listed scripturally down to the very day.
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The harpazo happens at the time of his second coming during the resurrection.
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Listen friend, I’m not going to bury this thread going back and forth with you with basic scripture, it’s obvious you’re unwilling to learn and you did this in my last thread. We’re not doing this again, I’m not going to touch your other false misinterpretations below the above. I answer your questions and you just gloss over and continue in argument and we’re not doing it again. A post-tribulation rapture is impossible and I’ve already proven this several times in this thread alone.

Good luck to you.
 Quoting: Seek^



Wow.

And you are so very wrong too, my brother.

2 posters in this thread have showed you correctly the difference between Tribulation and Wrath.

It's not 'semantics', it's taught by the Word of God.

We will be Ratured immediately before the Wrath of God falls.
Just as in the days of Noah, same pattern.

You are not saved from the tribulations caused by men.
Also, you are not appointed unto God's Wrath.

Therefore the Rapture is at the 6th Seal.


Good folks have tried to show you the error of your brainwashing, but you dismiss them and shut down the conversation for others to learn.

Check yourself brother. NOW.
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Wow is right, did you read the entire thread? I proved it’s impossible for there not to be a pre-tribulation rapture, again it’s impossible. See if you can find where I explain it and get back to me friend. It’s listed scripturally down to the very day.
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I've read every post in this thread AND voraciously read EVERYTHING prophecy-related (from every angle imaginable) for over 30 years now.

I am intensely interested in this subject matter, as it is so vitally important to Last Days Saints.

The problem is that you are confusing Tribulation with God's Wrath.

There IS a difference .. such a difference that the Word states such with a period of silence just before God's Wrath falls.

Brother, base your timeline upon the distinct difference between Tribulation (caused by men) and Wrath (caused by God). This is KEY to rightly dividing the Word of Truth.
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Listen friend, I’m not going to bury this thread going back and forth with you with basic scripture, it’s obvious you’re unwilling to learn and you did this in my last thread. We’re not doing this again, I’m not going to touch your other false misinterpretations below the above. I answer your questions and you just gloss over and continue in argument and we’re not doing it again. A post-tribulation rapture is impossible and I’ve already proven this several times in this thread alone.

Good luck to you.
 Quoting: Seek^



Wow.

And you are so very wrong too, my brother.

2 posters in this thread have showed you correctly the difference between Tribulation and Wrath.

It's not 'semantics', it's taught by the Word of God.

We will be Ratured immediately before the Wrath of God falls.
Just as in the days of Noah, same pattern.

You are not saved from the tribulations caused by men.
Also, you are not appointed unto God's Wrath.

Therefore the Rapture is at the 6th Seal.


Good folks have tried to show you the error of your brainwashing, but you dismiss them and shut down the conversation for others to learn.

Check yourself brother. NOW.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

Wow is right, did you read the entire thread? I proved it’s impossible for there not to be a pre-tribulation rapture, again it’s impossible. See if you can find where I explain it and get back to me friend. It’s listed scripturally down to the very day.
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I've read every post in this thread AND voraciously read EVERYTHING prophecy-related (from every angle imaginable) for over 30 years now.

I am intensely interested in this subject matter, as it is so vitally important to Last Days Saints.

The problem is that you are confusing Tribulation with God's Wrath.

There IS a difference .. such a difference that the Word states such with a period of silence just before God's Wrath falls.

Brother, base your timeline upon the distinct difference between Tribulation (caused by men) and Wrath (caused by God). This is KEY to rightly dividing the Word of Truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

You’re not reading careful enough, again it’s impossible for there not to be a pre-tribulation rapture. There is no other alternative per God’s word. Read again and try and figure it out. I explained it as basic as possible in this thread. Here’s a clue, the number of days do not lie.. Let me know what you discover.
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So why making an effort to comment on this matter here anyway? Go to an Chelsi Bedell video, with self loving pseudo youtube rapture christians like yourself and keep telling yourself that you can all feel that the rapture will happen very soon. Like you clowns did it the past 3 years, with your false prophets and their false prophecies and high watch times. I can tell you pseudo rapture christians your future, based on your past. This year your false prophets will pull atleast one "high watch time", which won't fullfill like it never did in the past. And then next year your cycle of clownery begins over... with blood moons, full moons, eclipses, J-holidays and while you sit on your lazy asses waiting for something to happen instead going out and spreading the gospel, you will comfort each other with your known phrases "i can feel the rapture is about to happen". You are a bunch of clowns who are despised because you are the epitome of self centered.

But it's ok, have a good flight and don't get smacked by the door on your way out.
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To save someone with a non-blinded mind. Look at my original post and scripture in this thread. Can you refute it? No. Because it’s the truth and we are not appointed to wrath.

Now, let’s look to your post above of vitriol and why? Why? That’s my question, why? Why do you hate a free ticket out of what’s about to happen. You choose one little video I post of a female giving her opinion to slander me? Why not face scripture that I’ve presented in this thread? The very little as very little is needed.

The simple fact of the matter is a post tribulation rapture is non-scriptural as I’ve proven, a pre-tribulation rapture is scriptural and will happen and could happen at any second.

The reason I comment on this matter is because souls for eternity are at stake and it’s the most important time in human history minus Christ’s death, resurrection, and ascension. That’s why I comment on this matter.

Using personal attacks amazes me and proves the truth isn’t in you nor do you have an open mind to the truth. You could but you have to lose your pride.

I mean honestly, read your response above and self-reflect. The better question is in your state, why did you even comment? Any questions I will do my best to answer but throwing out personal attacks does nothing to me, the only one who you’re hurting is yourself in the end.
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YOU are not appointed to wrath? John the Baptizer was beheaded. Jesus was killed cruelly and brutally on a torture stake. Stephen was stoned. James was thrown down upon the rock. Peter was hung upside down and tortured. On and on of those who suffered unto death for their beliefs and preaching but YOU are special and this is not your fate if the end were to come? As I saw in a post above the quote of those who will be beheaded for remaining steadfast and faithful to GOD.
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None of the above were of the wrath of God, that’s the difference. You’re conflating the evilness of man inflicted upon another human being with the wrath of God. Someone today will die a terrible, unjust, tortuous death somewhere in the world. In fact, multiple people will. The difference though are these deaths are not the result of the wrath of God.

We are not appointed to wrath and Christ’s bride will not experience the Tribulation.
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I was not speaking of the wrath of GOD, or his Son. I was speaking of the wrath of Satan and his minions on Earth.
Obviously the people I mentioned were not killed by GOD. But, by the people exercising power in the principalities of the World then. The Tribulation falls on all those on the Earth in those days. But, Satan will have his followers single out most heinously their enemies first. As those who are willing to resist Satan. They don't care about those they already have under their control. You are meant according to scriptures to count yourself as lucky to have a chance to prove your faith and be killed by the enemies of GOD. He can raise them up again so that nothing that man or Satan can do will have lasting harm.

It even points out those who were beheaded in the Tribulation for their faith. If he is plannig some pre-trib as you say, why are these faithful servants slain for their faith in being followers of Christ and of Yahweh our GOD?
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Wow.

And you are so very wrong too, my brother.

2 posters in this thread have showed you correctly the difference between Tribulation and Wrath.

It's not 'semantics', it's taught by the Word of God.

We will be Ratured immediately before the Wrath of God falls.
Just as in the days of Noah, same pattern.

You are not saved from the tribulations caused by men.
Also, you are not appointed unto God's Wrath.

Therefore the Rapture is at the 6th Seal.


Good folks have tried to show you the error of your brainwashing, but you dismiss them and shut down the conversation for others to learn.

Check yourself brother. NOW.
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Wow is right, did you read the entire thread? I proved it’s impossible for there not to be a pre-tribulation rapture, again it’s impossible. See if you can find where I explain it and get back to me friend. It’s listed scripturally down to the very day.
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I've read every post in this thread AND voraciously read EVERYTHING prophecy-related (from every angle imaginable) for over 30 years now.

I am intensely interested in this subject matter, as it is so vitally important to Last Days Saints.

The problem is that you are confusing Tribulation with God's Wrath.

There IS a difference .. such a difference that the Word states such with a period of silence just before God's Wrath falls.

Brother, base your timeline upon the distinct difference between Tribulation (caused by men) and Wrath (caused by God). This is KEY to rightly dividing the Word of Truth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


You’re not reading careful enough, again it’s impossible for there not to be a pre-tribulation Wrath rapture. There is no other alternative per God’s word. Read again and try and figure it out. I explained it as basic as possible in this thread. Here’s a clue, the number of days do not lie.. Let me know what you discover.
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There's our difference Brother. Right there above. Do you see it?

[it’s impossible for there not to be a pre-tribulation Wrath rapture.]

Believe me when I say that I have VERY CAREFULLY and PRAYERFULLY considered this question of Rapture timing.

Try to make your mind see it from God's perspective.
Tribulation is manmade, Wrath is God made ....
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Wow is right, did you read the entire thread? I proved it’s impossible for there not to be a pre-tribulation rapture, again it’s impossible. See if you can find where I explain it and get back to me friend. It’s listed scripturally down to the very day.
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I've read every post in this thread AND voraciously read EVERYTHING prophecy-related (from every angle imaginable) for over 30 years now.

I am intensely interested in this subject matter, as it is so vitally important to Last Days Saints.

The problem is that you are confusing Tribulation with God's Wrath.

There IS a difference .. such a difference that the Word states such with a period of silence just before God's Wrath falls.

Brother, base your timeline upon the distinct difference between Tribulation (caused by men) and Wrath (caused by God). This is KEY to rightly dividing the Word of Truth.
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You’re not reading careful enough, again it’s impossible for there not to be a pre-tribulation Wrath rapture. There is no other alternative per God’s word. Read again and try and figure it out. I explained it as basic as possible in this thread. Here’s a clue, the number of days do not lie.. Let me know what you discover.
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There's our difference Brother. Right there above. Do you see it?

[it’s impossible for there not to be a pre-tribulation Wrath rapture.]

Believe me when I say that I have VERY CAREFULLY and PRAYERFULLY considered this question of Rapture timing.

Try to make your mind see it from God's perspective.
Tribulation is manmade, Wrath is God made ....
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"In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."

John 16:33
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In the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ to John, in chapters 1-4 the Church is mentioned 19 times but not again after ch. 4. What happened to the church ??
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I was not speaking of the wrath of GOD, or his Son. I was speaking of the wrath of Satan and his minions on Earth.
Obviously the people I mentioned were not killed by GOD. But, by the people exercising power in the principalities of the World then. The Tribulation falls on all those on the Earth in those days. But, Satan will have his followers single out most heinously their enemies first. As those who are willing to resist Satan. They don't care about those they already have under their control. You are meant according to scriptures to count yourself as lucky to have a chance to prove your faith and be killed by the enemies of GOD. He can raise them up again so that nothing that man or Satan can do will have lasting harm.

It even points out those who were beheaded in the Tribulation for their faith. If he is plannig some pre-trib as you say, why are these faithful servants slain for their faith in being followers of Christ and of Yahweh our GOD?
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The only wrath Satan is given is during the Great Tribulation. Satan when he is cast out of Heaven for good and assumes the role of Anti-Christ. As the book of Job illustrates, Satan is only allowed to do what God gives him permission to do. Christ’s bride isn’t appointed unto wrath and therefore won’t be present for the 7-year Tribulation. Scripture backs up this fact.

This is also why Christ’s body is absent from the Book of Revelation after Chapter 4 because they aren’t on earth during the time of the Tribulation. The whole point of avoiding the Tribulation is repenting now so that you don’t have to experience the worst time ever on earth for humanity. These people are slain during the Great Tribulation because they missed the Rapture but thankfully repented and found Christ and don’t give in to the worship of the beast and take his mark. There will be many beheaded for refusing the mark of the beast and they will be given eternal life.

What the scriptures ask you and what God wants you to do is act now beforehand to repent and pray to be found worthy to avoid all that is coming to try those on earth and escape” which means to escape in the Rapture, not count yourself lucky to be beheaded afterward in the Great Tribulation. God wants all to come to repentance and avoid the wrath of God that is coming.
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Guess what, Archie?

Those are Jwes, not you.

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Yep !
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I was not speaking of the wrath of GOD, or his Son. I was speaking of the wrath of Satan and his minions on Earth.
Obviously the people I mentioned were not killed by GOD. But, by the people exercising power in the principalities of the World then. The Tribulation falls on all those on the Earth in those days. But, Satan will have his followers single out most heinously their enemies first. As those who are willing to resist Satan. They don't care about those they already have under their control. You are meant according to scriptures to count yourself as lucky to have a chance to prove your faith and be killed by the enemies of GOD. He can raise them up again so that nothing that man or Satan can do will have lasting harm.

It even points out those who were beheaded in the Tribulation for their faith. If he is plannig some pre-trib as you say, why are these faithful servants slain for their faith in being followers of Christ and of Yahweh our GOD?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80573488

The only wrath Satan is given is during the Great Tribulation. Satan when he is cast out of Heaven for good and assumes the role of Anti-Christ. As the book of Job illustrates, Satan is only allowed to do what God gives him permission to do. Christ’s bride isn’t appointed unto wrath and therefore won’t be present for the 7-year Tribulation. Scripture backs up this fact.

This is also why Christ’s body is absent from the Book of Revelation after Chapter 4 because they aren’t on earth during the time of the Tribulation. The whole point of avoiding the Tribulation is repenting now so that you don’t have to experience the worst time ever on earth for humanity. These people are slain during the Great Tribulation because they missed the Rapture but thankfully repented and found Christ and don’t give in to the worship of the beast and take his mark. There will be many beheaded for refusing the mark of the beast and they will be given eternal life.

What the scriptures ask you and what God wants you to do is act now beforehand to repent and pray to be found worthy to avoid all that is coming to try those on earth and escape” which means to escape in the Rapture, not count yourself lucky to be beheaded afterward in the Great Tribulation. God wants all to come to repentance and avoid the wrath of God that is coming.
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Right, that's what I said, the faithful of GOD are killed, beheaded during the Great Tribulation. If they are't "pre-tribulation "raptured", neither will you be.
You keep skimming over that part.
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In the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ to John, in chapters 1-4 the Church is mentioned 19 times but not again after ch. 4. What happened to the church ??
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Here they are in Rev 6:9
"And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held"

and here in Rev 7:3
"Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads."

and Rev 7:9
"After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands"

and Rev 7:17
"For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes"


Obviously I can go on ... so I won't belabor the point.
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There's our difference Brother. Right there above. Do you see it?

[it’s impossible for there not to be a pre-tribulation Wrath rapture.]

Believe me when I say that I have VERY CAREFULLY and PRAYERFULLY considered this question of Rapture timing.

Try to make your mind see it from God's perspective.
Tribulation is manmade, Wrath is God made ....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

Here friend, let me help you out. I’ll repeat what I’ve already said in this thread to try and make it clearer.

And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Daniel 12:11

The daily sacrifice referred to above is Christ’s church. The two scriptures below attest to this-

I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily.
1 Corinthians 15:31

Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship.
Romans 12:1




From the time Christ’s bride is removed in the scripture referenced in Daniel above, there will be exactly 3 1/2 years per scripture to the day. The bride must be removed for the Tribulation (not the Great Tribulation) to begin. Exactly 3 1/2 years after the bride is removed will be when Satan is cast out of Heaven and the abomination of desolation will be set up. The clock begins ticking once the bride is removed.




A quick recap-

Bride is removed which is the daily sacrifice spoken of in Daniel. 3 1/2 years to the day later, Satan, the accuser, is kicked out for good from Heaven (this is the mid-point of the 7-year Tribulation) where He assumes bodily autonomy of the puppet Anti-Christ and the abomination of desolation is set up and the Great Tribulation begins (midway through the 7-year Tribulation). Bride is gone when this takes place 3 1/2 years prior because it isn’t until the bride of Christ (daily sacrifice) is removed that the timeline for the 7-year Tribulation begins. It all hinges upon the removal of Christ’s bride as to when the Tribulation begins which could happen at any second hence this thread and why I’m warning people.


Hope that clears up any confusion friend, the number of days do not lie. The bride must be removed before the 7-year Tribulation begins.
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I was not speaking of the wrath of GOD, or his Son. I was speaking of the wrath of Satan and his minions on Earth.
Obviously the people I mentioned were not killed by GOD. But, by the people exercising power in the principalities of the World then. The Tribulation falls on all those on the Earth in those days. But, Satan will have his followers single out most heinously their enemies first. As those who are willing to resist Satan. They don't care about those they already have under their control. You are meant according to scriptures to count yourself as lucky to have a chance to prove your faith and be killed by the enemies of GOD. He can raise them up again so that nothing that man or Satan can do will have lasting harm.

It even points out those who were beheaded in the Tribulation for their faith. If he is plannig some pre-trib as you say, why are these faithful servants slain for their faith in being followers of Christ and of Yahweh our GOD?
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These people are slain during the Great Tribulation because they missed the Rapture but thankfully repented and found Christ
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Nowhere in the Word of God does it state this.

This is fabrication of men. (sometimes to sell books and DVDs)

Rather, the Word of God states that they do not repent:

"And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts."
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In the book of the Revelation of Jesus Christ to John, in chapters 1-4 the Church is mentioned 19 times but not again after ch. 4. What happened to the church ??
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Here they are in Rev 6:9
"And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held"

and here in Rev 7:3
"Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads."

and Rev 7:9
"After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands"

and Rev 7:17
"For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes"


Obviously I can go on ... so I won't belabor the point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432

All of what you just quoted in scripture above is the 144,000 during the Tribulation. The bride is gone during the 7-year Tribulation.





GLP