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For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ

1Thessalonians 5:9


For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept,
Line upon line, line upon line,
Here a little, there a little.


Isaiah 28:10


Because you have kept My command to persevere,
I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world,
to test those who dwell on the earth.


Revelation 3:10


In My Father's house are many dwelling places; if it were not so, I would have told you; for I go to prepare a place for you.
If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also.


John 14:2,3


Come, my people, enter your chambers,
And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment,
Until the indignation is past.

For behold, the LORD comes out of His place
To punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity;
The earth will also disclose her blood,
And will no more cover her slain.



Isaiah 26:20:21


Seek the LORD, all you meek of the earth,
Who have upheld His justice.
Seek righteousness, seek humility.
It may be that you will be hidden
In the day of the LORD's anger.



Zephaniah 2:3


For in the time of trouble
He shall hide me in His pavilion
;
In the secret place of His tabernacle
He shall hide me;
He shall set me high upon a rock.



Psalms 27:5


"Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season?
Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing.
Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods.
But if that evil servant says in his heart, 'My master is delaying his coming,'
and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards,
the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of,
and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites
. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."



Matthew 28:44-51


But take heed to yourselves,
lest your hearts be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness, and cares of this life,
and that Day come on you unexpectedly.

For it will come as a snare on all those who dwell on the face of the whole earth.

Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass,
and to stand before the Son of Man.



Luke 21:34-36


For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery,
lest you should be wise in your own opinion,
that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.


Romans 11:25


Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed—
in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.


1Corinthians 15:50-53


It is doubtless not profitable for me to boast. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord:
I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago—whether in the body I do not know, or whether out of the body I do not know,
God knows—such a one was caught up to the third heaven.
And I know such a man—whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows—
how he was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.


2Corinthians 12:1-4


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Typical misguided 'religious' response.

What if you miss a day of prayer? What happens then?

What's a 'true' relationship with Christ?
Seems subjective, rather than objective truth (to me).

The Lord said not to work for salvation, yet you tell us that we need to 'work' on our relationship with the Lord...
as much as is possible. (again, subjective)

Also, we need to 'repent' of our sins (the ones we know of)?
When Christ clearly forgave those sins at the cross, you keep dredging them up before Him ... even though He says that He has forgotten them.

Shouldn't you grow grass instead of pull weeds (sins)?
Makes more sense biblically to me.

Just more religious mumbo jumbo that unbelievers see as pure insanity.


Repentance is whole hog stuff.
You repent of your unbelief. The sin of unbelief.
Not 'I used to smoke, but now I repented.'
Because you could always start smoking again.

One can never go back and 'unbelieve', once faith has come.

What is there left for us to do then, you ask??

Here is your task, here is what you have to do:
"As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him"

How did you receive Him? By Faith.
That is exactly how you walk in the Lord daily .. by Faith.
Not doing a bunch of nonsensical religious crap that is meaningless.

Grow up now.
The time is drawing short.
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Pray without ceasing.

In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.

Quench not the Spirit.

Despise not prophesyings.

Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

Abstain from all appearance of evil.

And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Faithful is he that calleth you, who also will do it.
1 Thessalonians 5:17-24


We are told to pray. Prayer is spending time with God. If you miss prayer, well, you miss time spent with Him. Prayer can move mountains and can heal people as well as yourself. Prayer can change other’s lives. Prayer can save souls. If you miss prayer, you miss time spent with your creator and a chance at helping others. Receiving in prayer builds your relationship with Christ.

What’s a true relationship with Christ?

Have you ever been in love with someone and wanted to spend every moment with them? This is the feeling I’d most liken a ‘true’ relationship with Christ.

Yes, you should work on your relationship with Christ and work on getting nearer to Him every single day. It’s a relationship. You’re conflating the term works in regards to salvation which was clearly not my point.



You have to be born again to enter the Kingdom of God. The point of repentance is of course to turn from unbelief but do not the demons believe and tremble? When one is born again,

Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.
1 John 3:7-10




The point of my response above is there will be some that consider themselves Christian who will be left behind because they aren’t truly walking the narrow path and don’t have a relationship with Christ but rather rely on their “good works” or simple belief in Him while they live in willful sin. Prayer, repentance, and a relationship with Christ and the Father—

Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him.
John 14:23


is what separates the five wise virgins from the five foolish virgins which is the Holy Spirit ie the oil in the lamps of the wise virgins who enter in to the wedding celebration with the bridegroom who is Jesus.

Faith without works is dead. It’s through God’s will that we produce works, not on our own so that no man can boast. We all have freewill to sin and the repentance of willful sin is a fruit-bearing testament of someone who is born again of the Spirit and abiding in Christ. You will know them by their fruits.


Faith Without Works Is Dead

What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?

For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
James 2:14-26
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Your first reference to an Epistle by Paul enjoins us to Pray without ceasing.
We know this is a physical impossibility as such ...

I like to think of prayer as talking to the Lord in my heart. One can do that anywhere.
Even in the socialist schools that outlaw prayer.

No one can stop you from talking with the Lord.
I can talk with Him literally at the same time I am talking with you. Interesting.

The other references come from the j___wish epistles, which are specifically to j___s, not gentiles.

One has to be able to rightly divide the Word of Truth between the Gospel of the Kingdom (to Israel first) and the Gospel of the Grace of God (later to gentiles)

If one has faith in God, the works WILL surely follow. God has stated that they would, so they will. No need to bash christians over the head to get 'works' out of them.
Legalism has no place in the Body of Christ.
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Your first reference to an Epistle by Paul enjoins us to Pray without ceasing.
We know this is a physical impossibility as such ...

I like to think of prayer as talking to the Lord in my heart. One can do that anywhere.
Even in the socialist schools that outlaw prayer.

No one can stop you from talking with the Lord.
I can talk with Him literally at the same time I am talking with you. Interesting.

The other references come from the j___wish epistles, which are specifically to j___s, not gentiles.

One has to be able to rightly divide the Word of Truth between the Gospel of the Kingdom (to Israel first) and the Gospel of the Grace of God (later to gentiles)

If one has faith in God, the works WILL surely follow. God has stated that they would, so they will. No need to bash christians over the head to get 'works' out of them.
Legalism has no place in the Body of Christ.
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I’ve not bashed anyone over the head. Faith in Christ and His finished work on the cross means you are saved. My responses have been in regards to the Rapture hence the name of this thread and being left behind in what God states will be the worst time ever in the entirety of human existence both past, present, and future. Living in willful sin although having faith could cause a “Christian” to be left behind. We should be drawing nearer moreso right now than any time in our lives to God so that we may escape.

He tells us to watch and that we will know the season. What we’re experiencing worldwide isn’t just a bump in the road and nothing is bouncing back and will get better. There will be no revival before the Rapture, this is it. Many feel it in their spirit that time is so short as God said He would pour out His spirit on all flesh in the last days. The worse thing that can happen is someone being lukewarm which is as bad as unbelief and being left behind.
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Your first reference to an Epistle by Paul enjoins us to Pray without ceasing.
We know this is a physical impossibility as such ...

I like to think of prayer as talking to the Lord in my heart. One can do that anywhere.
Even in the socialist schools that outlaw prayer.

No one can stop you from talking with the Lord.
I can talk with Him literally at the same time I am talking with you. Interesting.

The other references come from the j___wish epistles, which are specifically to j___s, not gentiles.

One has to be able to rightly divide the Word of Truth between the Gospel of the Kingdom (to Israel first) and the Gospel of the Grace of God (later to gentiles)

If one has faith in God, the works WILL surely follow. God has stated that they would, so they will. No need to bash christians over the head to get 'works' out of them.
Legalism has no place in the Body of Christ.
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I’ve not bashed anyone over the head. Faith in Christ and His finished work on the cross means you are saved. My responses have been in regards to the Rapture hence the name of this thread and being left behind in what God states will be the worst time ever in the entirety of human existence both past, present, and future. Living in willful sin although having faith could cause a “Christian” to be left behind. We should be drawing nearer moreso right now than any time in our lives to God so that we may escape.

He tells us to watch and that we will know the season. What we’re experiencing worldwide isn’t just a bump in the road and nothing is bouncing back and will get better. There will be no revival before the Rapture, this is it. Many feel it in their spirit that time is so short as God said He would pour out His spirit on all flesh in the last days. The worse thing that can happen is someone being lukewarm which is as bad as unbelief and being left behind.
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When an appeal to works is made, that intimates that works are required for salvation. They are not.

The 'works' are God's through us, not ours.

New Testament sin is Unbelief.
Living in willful sin is living in unbelief.
Living in unbelief makes one an unbeliever and thus not saved. They never were saved.

The nasty nine and the dirty dozen is not evidence of willfully 'living in sin'.
Each and every one of us who still live in our flesh sins daily. To deny this is to deny the truth of what scripture has to say about our flesh.

Christ has promised that He would lose not a one ... none will be 'Left Behind'.
Left Behind is simply a money-making empire for those involved in that tomfoolery.
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Your first reference to an Epistle by Paul enjoins us to Pray without ceasing.
We know this is a physical impossibility as such ...

I like to think of prayer as talking to the Lord in my heart. One can do that anywhere.
Even in the socialist schools that outlaw prayer.

No one can stop you from talking with the Lord.
I can talk with Him literally at the same time I am talking with you. Interesting.

The other references come from the j___wish epistles, which are specifically to j___s, not gentiles.

One has to be able to rightly divide the Word of Truth between the Gospel of the Kingdom (to Israel first) and the Gospel of the Grace of God (later to gentiles)

If one has faith in God, the works WILL surely follow. God has stated that they would, so they will. No need to bash christians over the head to get 'works' out of them.
Legalism has no place in the Body of Christ.
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I’ve not bashed anyone over the head. Faith in Christ and His finished work on the cross means you are saved. My responses have been in regards to the Rapture hence the name of this thread and being left behind in what God states will be the worst time ever in the entirety of human existence both past, present, and future. Living in willful sin although having faith could cause a “Christian” to be left behind. We should be drawing nearer moreso right now than any time in our lives to God so that we may escape.

He tells us to watch and that we will know the season. What we’re experiencing worldwide isn’t just a bump in the road and nothing is bouncing back and will get better. There will be no revival before the Rapture, this is it. Many feel it in their spirit that time is so short as God said He would pour out His spirit on all flesh in the last days. The worse thing that can happen is someone being lukewarm which is as bad as unbelief and being left behind.
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When an appeal to works is made, that intimates that works are required for salvation. They are not.

The 'works' are God's through us, not ours.

New Testament sin is Unbelief.
Living in willful sin is living in unbelief.
Living in unbelief makes one an unbeliever and thus not saved. They never were saved.

The nasty nine and the dirty dozen is not evidence of willfully 'living in sin'.
Each and every one of us who still live in our flesh sins daily. To deny this is to deny the truth of what scripture has to say about our flesh.

Christ has promised that He would lose not a one ... none will be 'Left Behind'.
Left Behind is simply a money-making empire for those involved in that tomfoolery.
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You’re conflating again works for salvation with things like working on repentance, prayer and getting closer in your relationship to Christ. I’ve already stated that if you believe in Christ and His finished work on the cross, you’re saved through faith did I not? That’s not my point, at all. Would you not agree that there are people living in sin right now out at bars getting drunk at this very moment who believe in Jesus Christ? These are the people I’m referring to hence the warning.

“Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his master made ruler over his household, to give them food in due season? Blessed is that servant whom his master, when he comes, will find so doing. Assuredly, I say to you that he will make him ruler over all his goods. But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards, the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Matthew 24:45-51
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Therefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and rest your hope fully upon the grace that is to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ; as obedient children, not conforming yourselves to the former lusts, as in your ignorance; but as He who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, because it is written, “Be holy, for I am holy.”
1 Peter 1:13-16
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Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

Remember Lot's wife.

Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it.

I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.

Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Luke 17:28-36




As with the original Noah verse in the first post of this thread, Jesus is talking above about the Rapture because people will be eating and drinking, buying and selling freely which will be the very opposite of what will be going on in His Second coming in judgment with the Saints behind Him. The world will be unrecognizable when Jesus returns at the end of the Great Tribulation and people only with the mark of the beast who are damned to eternal hell will be able to buy or sell.

The scripture above also stresses the importance of not looking back on the cares of this world and your past here like Lot’s wife did and because of, perished. Look forward and put your full faith and trust in Christ. Comfort one another.

Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.
Philippians 3:13-14

Rapture can happen at any moment, prepare your house now! Warn others and escape what God says will be the worst time ever in the existence of humanity. Don’t be left behind. Words cannot convey how terrible life is going to be on earth after Christ’s bride is removed, the invitation is still open to everyone to make it out of here.
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Our days may come to seventy years, or eighty, if our strength endures; yet the best of them are but trouble and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away.
Psalm 90:10

A generation Biblically is between 70 to 80 years. Like the prophet Simeon in his old age who was visited by the Holy Spirit and was told he would not pass away until he would see the Messiah and he held Jesus when Jesus was just 40 days old as an infant. That event was a foreshadowing of the present day where this last generation will not pass away until they see Jesus Christ.

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Israel became a nation May 18, 1948 which was 74 years, 7 months, and 4 days from today, December 18, 2022.

Prepare now. Accept Jesus now. Escape.
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Your first reference to an Epistle by Paul enjoins us to Pray without ceasing.
We know this is a physical impossibility as such ...

I like to think of prayer as talking to the Lord in my heart. One can do that anywhere.
Even in the socialist schools that outlaw prayer.

No one can stop you from talking with the Lord.
I can talk with Him literally at the same time I am talking with you. Interesting.

The other references come from the j___wish epistles, which are specifically to j___s, not gentiles.

One has to be able to rightly divide the Word of Truth between the Gospel of the Kingdom (to Israel first) and the Gospel of the Grace of God (later to gentiles)

If one has faith in God, the works WILL surely follow. God has stated that they would, so they will. No need to bash christians over the head to get 'works' out of them.
Legalism has no place in the Body of Christ.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318

I’ve not bashed anyone over the head. Faith in Christ and His finished work on the cross means you are saved. My responses have been in regards to the Rapture hence the name of this thread and being left behind in what God states will be the worst time ever in the entirety of human existence both past, present, and future. Living in willful sin although having faith could cause a “Christian” to be left behind. We should be drawing nearer moreso right now than any time in our lives to God so that we may escape.

He tells us to watch and that we will know the season. What we’re experiencing worldwide isn’t just a bump in the road and nothing is bouncing back and will get better. There will be no revival before the Rapture, this is it. Many feel it in their spirit that time is so short as God said He would pour out His spirit on all flesh in the last days. The worse thing that can happen is someone being lukewarm which is as bad as unbelief and being left behind.
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When an appeal to works is made, that intimates that works are required for salvation. They are not.

The 'works' are God's through us, not ours.

New Testament sin is Unbelief.
Living in willful sin is living in unbelief.
Living in unbelief makes one an unbeliever and thus not saved. They never were saved.

The nasty nine and the dirty dozen is not evidence of willfully 'living in sin'.
Each and every one of us who still live in our flesh sins daily. To deny this is to deny the truth of what scripture has to say about our flesh.

Christ has promised that He would lose not a one ... none will be 'Left Behind'.
Left Behind is simply a money-making empire for those involved in that tomfoolery.
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Would you not agree that there are people living in sin right now out at bars getting drunk at this very moment who believe in Jesus Christ? These are the people I’m referring to hence the warning.
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I'm not sure how that is our business?
Isn't it between the drunk and the Lord?

But I'll play along ...

Was the drunk's sin forgiven at the cross or is there more forgiveness we need to extract out of Christ's broken body?

What about your worrying?
That is certainly not of Faith and therefore sin.

Why is the drunk's sin so much worse than yours or mine?
Why do we need to intervene between the Lord and the drunk?

Let's stop worrying about other people's sins and simply start growing our own grass, instead of constantly being a nosy sin inspector.

You and I and every other being on this planet sins daily .. whether we know it or not. That's a FACT.

I have some good news for you:
Those sins were taken away at the cross forever.
We can now move on to Life in Christ and forget about dredging up our past failures.
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I’ve not bashed anyone over the head. Faith in Christ and His finished work on the cross means you are saved. My responses have been in regards to the Rapture hence the name of this thread and being left behind in what God states will be the worst time ever in the entirety of human existence both past, present, and future. Living in willful sin although having faith could cause a “Christian” to be left behind. We should be drawing nearer moreso right now than any time in our lives to God so that we may escape.

He tells us to watch and that we will know the season. What we’re experiencing worldwide isn’t just a bump in the road and nothing is bouncing back and will get better. There will be no revival before the Rapture, this is it. Many feel it in their spirit that time is so short as God said He would pour out His spirit on all flesh in the last days. The worse thing that can happen is someone being lukewarm which is as bad as unbelief and being left behind.
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When an appeal to works is made, that intimates that works are required for salvation. They are not.

The 'works' are God's through us, not ours.

New Testament sin is Unbelief.
Living in willful sin is living in unbelief.
Living in unbelief makes one an unbeliever and thus not saved. They never were saved.

The nasty nine and the dirty dozen is not evidence of willfully 'living in sin'.
Each and every one of us who still live in our flesh sins daily. To deny this is to deny the truth of what scripture has to say about our flesh.

Christ has promised that He would lose not a one ... none will be 'Left Behind'.
Left Behind is simply a money-making empire for those involved in that tomfoolery.
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Would you not agree that there are people living in sin right now out at bars getting drunk at this very moment who believe in Jesus Christ? These are the people I’m referring to hence the warning.
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I'm not sure how that is our business?
Isn't it between the drunk and the Lord?

But I'll play along ...

Was the drunk's sin forgiven at the cross or is there more forgiveness we need to extract out of Christ's broken body?

What about your worrying?
That is certainly not of Faith and therefore sin.

Why is the drunk's sin so much worse than yours or mine?
Why do we need to intervene between the Lord and the drunk?

Let's stop worrying about other people's sins and simply start growing our own grass, instead of constantly being a nosy sin inspector.

You and I and every other being on this planet sins daily .. whether we know it or not. That's a FACT.

I have some good news for you:
Those sins were taken away at the cross forever.
We can now move on to Life in Christ and forget about dredging up our past failures.
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Thanks for your input friend. Wish you the best.
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There is no rapture and Im tired of hearing about it.
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There is no rapture and Im tired of hearing about it.
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Thank you for your detailed analysis of your position.

You're quite the einstein.
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Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.

“But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of Heaven, but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Matthew 24:34-37





The generation Jesus was referring to above is the last generation, today’s generation, which was marked the day Israel became a nation in 1948.
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Get right with Christ this very second, not in a little bit. Not tomorrow.
Not maybe I’ll get to it after the weekend. Do it now.

Listen, do not risk being lost eternally forever. Trust me, do it now.

Fall to your knees, confess your sins, acknowledge you need a savior and that you need His righteousness to cover you. That’s why He came down to earth and died for you, He took His last breath on the cross and took yours, mine, and all of mankind’s sins with Him when he descended down to hell for three days and He did so to leave them there. The gift is free and paid for to keep you from the pits of hell, take it. He loves you.

Jesus is your best ally, your best friend. It’s the only reason any of us are here on earth living, to be with God after our time living in this fallen world. Jesus alone holds the keys to Heaven and hell. Call on Him now because the Rapture can happen at any second. Any second.

Please, just call upon him. He seeks a relationship with you, that’s it.

I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
John 15:15

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Good thread OP. When I was looking at the image above, I thought it looked familiar. Then I saw "Turning Point" at the top. I really like this ministry, and Pastor Jeremiah. I knew nothing of them before I was led to the Jeremiah Study Bible. Then I found him on cable.

I have been spending a lot of time with the Book of Revelation, and Pastor Jeremiah's comments on the Rapture have really opened my eyes. I greatly appreciate his scriptural approach and the insight he provides in the footnotes.
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Get right with Christ this very second, not in a little bit. Not tomorrow.
Not maybe I’ll get to it after the weekend. Do it now.

Listen, do not risk being lost eternally forever. Trust me, do it now.

Fall to your knees, confess your sins, acknowledge you need a savior and that you need His righteousness to cover you. That’s why He came down to earth and died for you, He took His last breath on the cross and took yours, mine, and all of mankind’s sins with Him when he descended down to hell for three days and He did so to leave them there. The gift is free and paid for to keep you from the pits of hell, take it. He loves you.

Jesus is your best ally, your best friend. It’s the only reason any of us are here on earth living, to be with God after our time living in this fallen world. Jesus alone holds the keys to Heaven and hell. Call on Him now because the Rapture can happen at any second. Any second.

Please, just call upon him. He seeks a relationship with you, that’s it.

I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.
John 15:15

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Good thread OP. When I was looking at the image above, I thought it looked familiar. Then I saw "Turning Point" at the top. I really like this ministry, and Pastor Jeremiah. I knew nothing of them before I was led to the Jeremiah Study Bible. Then I found him on cable.

I have been spending a lot of time with the Book of Revelation, and Pastor Jeremiah's comments on the Rapture have really opened my eyes. I greatly appreciate his scriptural approach and the insight he provides in the footnotes.
 Quoting: Horticulture

hf
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The slow rapture.

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I have been studying eschatology pretty seriously for two decades. I've come to the conclusion that if a person doesn't understand prophecy, the age of grace, the pre trib rapture, etc, then that person is almost always indoctrinated with Catholic ideas.....either from the RCC itself, or, from one of the many denominations that held onto made up Catholic ideas and teaching.

The RCC is the Woman that rides the Beast, 100%.

Anyway. My personal opinion is that the life of this planet will be 7000 years total. 4000 from creation to Jesus's birth, death and resurrection. There will be 2000 years from His ascension into heaven until His second coming. Most scholars believe he was crucified and resurrected in 33AD. I believe His return at the end of the Tribulation will be around 2033. Take seven years off for the Trib, that is around 2026 for the Rapture. It COULD be earlier, given that there may be a gap year or two between the rapture and beginning of the Trib. But IMO, we have a few years left.

After the Trib, the 1000 year Millennium starts.
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Now, of course, no one knows the day or the hour

but we are expected to know the season..

Everyone has been speculating, of course, all my lifetime now

all certain that they were the special ones that really knew more than everyone else

and all were always all wrong, of course.

Many have always done the same. Many here.

And through all these years and discussions and studies,

it seems likely to me that The LORD probably is on a 2,000 year schedule or so... if not precisely...

and if He left around 32 ad

then we could expect Him to return around 2032 ad...

Now, if we allow for the 7-year Tribulation before that,

we would be looking at 2025 sometime as the beginning of the Tribulation.

That gives us 2023 and 2024 to get there

and that seems like a very realistic schedule about now...

in my opinion...

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Daniel’s 70 Weeks
The Precision of Prophecy



Gabriel told Daniel that the interval between the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem until the presentation of the Messiah as King would be 173,880 days.

The commandment to restore and build Jerusalem was given by Artaxerxes Longimanus on March 14, 445 B.C.

Jesus presented Himself as King. It occurred on April 6, 32 A.D.

March 14, 445 B.C. and April 6, 32 A.D.

173,880 days exactly, to the very day!



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I quote this most astonishing example again

only to attest to the high likelihood for Jesus' death and resurrection beginning the Church Age in 32 ad.

Whether accurate or not and whether without any other basis or not,
I seem to more and more be coming to the conclusion that a roughly but closely to 2,000 year time frame is required here, as God seems to be consistent 2,000 years Creation Adam to Noah, 2,000 years Noah to Christ, 2,000 years Christ 'til...

so that would put us around 2032 for the Return of Christ.

If so, then the 7 year Tribulation Time of Jacob's Trouble Daniel's 70th Week would probably begin sometime in 2025.

I believe the Rapture to most likely be before the Tribulation begins, likely a very short time before, but maybe a little longer, but not years before, so probably several years yet if this is at all ballpark close.

On the other hand, I'm good with getting out of here pronto if it be His Will. I remember 88 Reasons...

So... no clue on day or hour.. but my best guess is we may have a few short years remaining, but I most certainly could be wrong.

Consider those years His Patient Blessing for all those that will soon come to Believe in Him...

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Why would Paul tell us a mystery (which is the Rapture) and encourage us to comfort one another (because it’s pre-tribulation and kicks off the Tribulation) with God’s promise to catch us up and rescue us from what God calls the worst time ever in the history of humanity?

After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the Air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

Therefore encourage one another with these words.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18



Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
1 Corinthians 15:51-52, 55



Why a mystery? O death, where is thy sting and O grave, where is they victory? People raptured will not experience death. Ever.

And if the Rapture was in fact at the end of the Tribulation, what comfort would there be when all of God’s wrath has been poured out on the earth, nearly all inhabitants have the mark of the beast, disease, plagues, continents split in half, comets and meteors, food available only to those with the mark, all water sources worldwide tainted by wormwood, billions dead etc.

What comfort does one take? Like in the days of Noah which is today’s age… Israel becoming a nation in 1948 lines up perfectly with the parable of the Fig Tree and Biblical definition of a generation being 70-80 years (Psalm 90:10).

Rapture is imminent. Repent and prepare and look up for your redemption draws near.

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The King is coming to rescue you, will you accept His invitation to Escape?

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Typical misguided 'religious' response.

What if you miss a day of prayer? What happens then?

What's a 'true' relationship with Christ?
Seems subjective, rather than objective truth (to me).

The Lord said not to work for salvation, yet you tell us that we need to 'work' on our relationship with the Lord...
as much as is possible. (again, subjective)

Also, we need to 'repent' of our sins (the ones we know of)?
When Christ clearly forgave those sins at the cross, you keep dredging them up before Him ... even though He says that He has forgotten them.

Shouldn't you grow grass instead of pull weeds (sins)?
Makes more sense biblically to me.

Just more religious mumbo jumbo that unbelievers see as pure insanity.


Repentance is whole hog stuff.
You repent of your unbelief. The sin of unbelief.
Not 'I used to smoke, but now I repented.'
Because you could always start smoking again.

One can never go back and 'unbelieve', once faith has come.

What is there left for us to do then, you ask??

Here is your task, here is what you have to do:
"As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him"

How did you receive Him? By Faith.
That is exactly how you walk in the Lord daily .. by Faith.
Not doing a bunch of nonsensical religious crap that is meaningless.

Grow up now.
The time is drawing short.
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so faith without works is dead.
James 2:14-26
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It was never saving faith to begin with.

True Faith will manifest Christ in your life.
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And if the Rapture was in fact at the end of the Tribulation, what comfort would there be when all of God’s wrath has been poured out on the earth
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Amazing.

You still do not understand that the tribulation and God's Wrath are 2 distinct and separate events.

Tribulation = Seals 1-6

God's Wrath = Seal 7 to the end.


What nefarious gain do you have in obfuscating this fact?

Why would you promulgate a lie to the people of faith?

What do you stand to gain in promoting a lie?





GLP