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I think the problem is knowing that tribulation is not God's wrath. Tribulation is for correction and refinement. Wrath is much different.

God's Wrath is referenced at Rev 6:17 and Rev 11:18. These events correspond with the same events in Matt 24:29 and Joel 2:31.

Before the earthquake and moon and sun are cast into darkness is the tribulation. After this event is the signal of God's Wrath.

I am open to refinement and correction. It is God's Wrath that I wish to avoid.

Did Paul hide from tribulation or did he accept his role?
 Quoting: Achduke7

The time for semantics is over friend, it’s over. Hardship in life is not wrath. Splitting continents, turning waters to blood, the sun scorching people, scorpion-like creatures stinging people for 5 months while they wish for death and afflicting people with sores who bare the mark of the beast is wrath.

As I mentioned in this thread, when the bride is removed, people left behind just two weeks in will experience the worst horrors imaginable and only those living on earth left behind will truly understand the volume and true scope of what they’re facing as far as trying to live day to day and the dread of juggling mentally their eternal salvation. Lack of mental peace alone can drive someone insane very quickly.

Christ is not returning in His second coming with people marrying and giving in marriage, happy and eating and drinking, it will be the polar opposite. This earth’s landscape when He returns will be unrecognizable and those left will be under mind-control with the Mark and will be in Satan’s ranks ready to war with Christ, there is no arguing this fact.

The Rapture is real, the Rapture is Biblical, the Rapture is so extremely close and Christ is coming for His bride. To deny this is to deny God’s word.

What do you think one woman taken and one left behind, one man taken and one man left behind signifies? Can God honestly make it any clearer?

Prepare right now and stop playing ridiculous internet semantics while risking your eternal salvation. The word eternal means forever.
 Quoting: Seek^


The only difference here is the timing. You believe God's church will not experience any hardship before God brings his wrath and pre-
wrath people do believe there will be hardship.

The dispensationalist view says that the tribulation is only for the J ish and Israel. Did you know there are only 15 million people who identify as J ish as of 2020. The country of Israel proper only has 9.3 million.

On the other hand the bible says that so many people come out of the tribulation from all nations they cannot be counted by man. 15 million is not much but most likely the multitude is a billion people or more.

The left behind is a fallacy. The people that endure the tribulation affects a good portion of the people. John throws some big numbers around in Revelation including 400 million. How big is a number he cannot count?

Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;


As for the scorpions who did they leave alone? The answer is God's people.

Rev 9:4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
 Quoting: Achduke7

The Judgment Seat of Christ will take place right before Christ returns in His second coming. This is why the Tribulation Saints are told to wait a little longer before they receive their white robes. The multitudes beyond number to count are believers who’ve died in all of mankind’s history and those given the white robes are those Tribulation Saints. All are waiting for their heavenly rewards for what they’ve done in their lives which will be tried by fire.
 
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