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Message Subject Rapture^
Poster Handle Achduke7
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You are making up words. It is not "wrath of the tribulation". It is tribulation and then wrath. They are two separate words and two separate events. Look at Matthew 24:29. It is not hard to understand. Everything before Matt 24:29 is tribulation. And then at Matt 24:29 is Is After the tribulation because (well read it) The tribulation is over! Then the Wrath starts and Christ gathers his people.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Solid and Spot On.



As for Daniel 9 The first 3.5 years of that week was fulfilled in Christ. The covenant that was to be fulfilled is the New Covenant which Christ confirmed. This was the end of sacrifice. Have you seen any sacrifices since in Israel since 70 AD? Christ was cut off at 3.5 years and now the 2nd half of this 3.5 years is yet to happen. That will be the tribulation of 3.5 years.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Now here is where it gets interesting and I applaud you for taking this one on.

Because some of the things Daniel details were fulfilled in Christ's earthly ministry of 3.5 years, we can conclude that half of Daniel's 70th Week has been ticked down.
3.5 years remain on God's time piece.



Daniel 9:24-27 24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. 25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
 Quoting: Achduke7


The antichrist confirms a 7 year covenant
[Interesting .. 7 years like Daniel's 70th Week .. a counterfeit covenant]

However, the antichrist does not control God's time piece.
Only God controls His clock and 3.5 years have already run out.

God's time piece again starts when the antichrist declares himself god and demands worship.

OP, this is why we are adament about tribulation vs God's Wrath.
So very many believe we have 7 years of tribulation, when it will be 3.5 years of Great Tribulation.

Nice post Achduke7

Thank you for your contribution!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


Where do you see the antichrist confirming any covenant? Looking at the most most common place in 9:27 the word "he" does not even exist.
 Quoting: Achduke7


There are a number of viewpoints from various folks about Daniel 9:27.

Most would take the opinion that 'He' is the antichrist.

I lean towards Messiah being the 'He' in the first half of verse 27 and antichrist probably being the desolator in the second half of verse 27.

We shall see .. remain on watch!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


The word he is not in the original Hebrew. Check strongs or the lexicon.
 
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