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Message Subject Rapture^
Poster Handle Achduke7
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I believe we have lost our Pre-Trib Rapture friends.

Come back and discuss ... MUCH to learn here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22255432


We don't need to discuss nothing. We actually beleive
what the Bible says. Pre Trib is truth.
The bride is gone before the Tribulation.
It's pretty simple.
 Quoting: Mdc61170


Where does it say the Bride is gone? If you believe the Bible you should be able to point the verses that say this.
 Quoting: Achduke7


Thought you were smart enough to know church and bride being the same. 2Corinthians 11:2
Read Ephesians 5. You rapture deniers are like " the jab is safe" dummies. Where
in the Bible are their verses telling,and
warning the church to be strong against the
AC,and don't take the mark as a Christian.
Also, how do you effectively present the gospel to
someone? You tell them sorry, but you're going to have go through the tribulation,and their
is no blessed hope. You also spit in the face
of all the great evangelists of the past and call them liars. Moody, Spurgeon, Billy Sunday,Roloff ,to name a few. Get off your
own indignation,and simply believe the
Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth.
 Quoting: Mdc61170


First of all this was a letter to the Corinthians.

Second Paul wanted them to be espoused but he was also fearful they would not be. Keep reading into 11:3

So Paul wanted the Corinthians to be the bride but was afraid they may become corrupt. Where in the bible does it say the whole church is the Bride of Christ?

Paul mentioned multiple members. Christ mentioned the Bridegroom which was himself. The friends of the Bridegroom which he alluded to was the 12 disciples with him. Also he mentions the wedding guests which are supposed to be in proper clothing. (New Temple Bodies?) and he also mentioned the bride. It would seem that not all the church is the bride but a part of those that are saved.

Lastly Ephesians 5 does not say the whole church is the bride either. It just says the church is subject to Christ similarity how the Wives are subject to their husbands.

The only place the marriage of the bride is specified is in Revelation and in Revelation the bride is New Jerusalem. Now it can be speculated that since we are living temples in the spiritual house that we could be part of New Jerusalem that is all speculation. What did Christ say about presuming?

Luke 14:8-11 8 When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him; 9 And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room. 10 But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee. 11 For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.




2 Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. 3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
 
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