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Once again this is all presumption in hopes it fits your pre-trib rapture theory. The bible does not say what you are presuming.
Where does it say the Church is the Daily Sacrifice taken away? This is bending of the scripture.
Where is the 7 years? 1290 days is just over 3.5 years. Even 1353 days is 7 years.
Quoting: Achduke7 This is not presumption, this your inability to read scripture and cross reference scripture and like your AC5432 buddy on page 6 who you were high-fiving and agreeing with, you’re unable to understand basic scripture spoon-fed and laid out for you with clear explanation because you’re blind from your ingrained, preconceived notion of the rapture that doesn’t align scripturally. It is presumption. You fail to see everywhere the resurrection in the New Testament and refer to as the Rapture. The Resurrection is in Matthew 24, 1 Thess 4:14-18 and Revelation 11:11-12 to name a few locations. They are all Christ gathering his people up to him in the clouds. The Harpazo is the gathering but before we are gathered to him we are resurrected and given new bodies as Paul points out. Would you go to Christ in your old flesh body? No! We have new spirit bodies. There are only two resurrections left. The 1st is the Resurrection of the Just. Revelation calls it the 1st resurrection in Revelation 20:4-6 and it happens in the twink of an eye or instantly. This pulls in all believers in Christ. This is the resurrection you do not want to miss and Revelation spells it out. These are tribulation saints who have not taken the mark of the Beast. This is why I regret responding because no matter how much scripture and explanation and cross-referencing verifying scripture is presented, your mind will not change as you’re unable to learn so to further discussion is pointless with you or the AC5432 character. You both are unable to learn and no matter how much I or anyone else tries to show you two, you’ll continue misinterpreting scripture and arguing with said misinterpreted scripture. You argue and argue with misunderstanding just basic scripture. In this thread, you’ve argued for example against a pre-tribulation rapture by claiming the 144k are the bride of Christ. How is the bride of Christ raptured (who you claim are the 144k) when these people are all slain for their testimony during the Tribulation? How are slain people raptured? What would be the point? There is none because it isn’t scriptural nor logical. I submit the bride is not actually the whole church but actually the 144k but that is for a different thread.
Thank you,
Quoting: Achduke7 I’ve explained so as an 8-year old may understand above using scripture, take it or leave it friend. Good luck. I only submit that the 144K are the bride of Christ just as the pre-tribbers assume that they are the bride. My point is that Christ would not leave his Bride. Who is that go everywhere with Christ? The 144K go everywhere with him and are the first to show up with Christ when he steps back down on earth. If you cannot see how slain people are raptured/harpazoed then you need to re-read the Bible. They are caught up after they are slain in the ministry of Christ. They are DEAD in Christ and go before any living in Christ. This happens after the tribulation. They are slain in the tribulation and are resurrected before God's wrath. It is that simple, Nothing fancy. No bending of scripture. They die in the tribulation and then are resurrected with everyone.
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