Your confusion is separating Israel and the saints from the church. Also where is a 7 year tribulation defined in Revelation? I only see 3.5 years or forty two months.
Rev 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty [and] two months.
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty [and] two months.
Quoting: Achduke7 Your confusion is not realizing that those who are left behind and are forced to go through the 7-year Tribulation are not the church as Christ’s body/church is taken pre-tribulation in the Rapture and their removal starts the 7-year Tribulation itself.
Then who are these 'tribulation saints', as you put it:
"After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands ...
And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."
These are not the church? Then who are they?
[Wait for it ... he's going to say 'tribulation saints', like they always do]
How are they in Heaven without the Holy Spirit indwelling them if they are not the church and the Holy Spirit has been removed from the earth?
