Updated: Torn Rotator Cuff Question: Had the Surgery on Monday. Good stuff at Bottom of page 4.

You are too kind. Thank you! I love this place.

(You will want to sleep in a recliner.)

You most definitely deserved the upgrade for all you did!
Thank YOU very kindly!

The nurse suggested the same about sleeping. I have 6 pillows on my bed that should do the trick (I hope). I'm an insomniac and could absolutely not fall asleep in my recliner, but I might have to eat my words once I'm back home. heh

youve got to go real slow and gentle, the careful safe stretches, for range of motion ect., , , , even without a doctor, or therapist,, but im sure youll need both, ok?, if you go the route of surgery, youll def. need a real, and good physical therapist, that knows this injury. you need to scour the internet, i mean scour, for only real and safe info, safe, for your injury, presicly, and they dont make it easy, on any injury, too many quacks, and yuppie, utube aholes, what you need to try to look for specifically, is , , like written, words, with, illustrated drawings, for each safe stretch, and exersizes, , from , , what doctors recommend, , not utube yuppyies, with own agendas, , and dangerous not right info. , and then, keep digging, and , incorporate, , the safe, and real stuff that pertains to you, , also, the more later, on you research about the muscle groups in that area of injury, with anatomy, charts, not easy, they dont want to give it up, they dont want to give up the anatomy images of muscle groups, and how the muscle fibers run, in that perticular part of the body, you need to see, how all these muscle groups, and also the , print and photos too small, , anyways, , just try to learn all you can, because you want to be very informed like your own doctor, , , if your off work due to this injury, you will have the time to do deep reasearch online , write everything down, and all the links, and save to favorites the good ones, , , meanwhile , all, , real vitamins and safe minerals, , that are safe, not interact with your pain meds., , plus, all natural remedies, later on, after the surgery, , hopefully healed right, correctly, like later on, , , certain essential oils taken with a safe carrier oil, like coconut oil, or castor oil on the outside, of the injury, may or may not be beneficial,, , to the muscle fibers, ect., , , tryin to heal safely from the inside as well as the outside, but dont put anything on the , incision sites ect., , and do all the surgeon tells you, , now pain is the no 1 elephant in the room forever, , at first you may have to take the prescribed , what they give you, , but be aware, that naproxin and tylenol, , are toxic to the liver, , and try to learn and , do what you can, to not get those, , and to get off them, , ive read that certain brands of cdb oil, like royal, brand , its kinda exepensive, but used externally , over the injury site, , , i think, helps they say with the pain, , , and of course do not get anything over the incision site, unless its like hydrogen peroxide, , from grocer store, to clean, and disinfect, and you can also, , use , , olive leaf extract, liquid capsules, break open the capsules, oh my , olive leaf extract, is very, very safe, to use on all open wounds, and insisions ect, and even internally, to fight , infections, and fight and prevent infection, both, , , its right up there with oil of oregano, but even safer, safer, ,, , if you do use cbd oil later on for pain management, , you need to get the most purest, blend, , ect., most are not., , and then someone mention kratom to me sometime back for pain manegment, but id read and stay away from that , as has side effects like , big pharma., , , there are , natural poultices too, for, all injury swellings, , long after ice stops working ok?, people think your a quack, but its real, , so dont laugh, , , but it wont be easy to do, , , . if you have swelling, , , from any injury, , and there is trapped fluids under the muscle cell tissues, raw potatoe poultices, , , but given the shoulder, and no one to help you put and secure the poultice, very difficult, with one arm and hand, , , , and each poultice has to stay on till it completly drys out, thats how they work, they dont tell, online anywheres, but very few places, , each time the poultice drys out completly over an injury swelling, it reduces, youll see, with each one, , , more and more fluid, swelling goes down before your eyes, , even old , old injury swellings., , , ive learned the hard way, on my own, grace of god, without healthcare ins., , , , the tips and tricks, to make a potaoe poultice, dry the fastest, to reduce the time between poultices,, normally, you have to wait like 18- 24 hours each potatoe poultice, because of all the miosture in the raw potaoe, but you can , majorlly reduce the poultice activated dry time, by using 2 cotton like , rags or tee shirts, and patting it all dry after, , finest grating, on a cheesse grater, the finer, the better to make a , moldable poultice, then a whiote cotton rag, or tee shirt, large enought o wrap arond , injury site, ect, , than place the patted dry poultice, on the white , cotton, or like , this is your bandage, and wrap arond and secure with , safety pins, , be creative, , hopefully you can find a real friend to help you , wrap and secure, , not too tight, , just enough to, secure decently, without, causing, , , you want the limb, , joint whatever to and surrounding, to be able to move, , , , if you pat dry both sides of raw potaoe poultices before tranferring to the clean white, bandage, youll have like approx. 13 hours, each poultice, instead of the 18- 24 hours dry time, , , agin this is and all poultices, not for open wounds, or incisions, , this is for unbroken skin swelling injuries.,, , and of course never use green potaoes, or moldy, only normal, raw skinned potaoes, and , skin and all then safe, , and keep it up, us a timer, , alrm clock, , wahtever you have handy, you want to swap the old dried one out, fast as you can for the newer one ect., , more and more , swelling, , trapped fluids under the skin, gets pulled out. , fact, its a real miracle of god, however, if you have pins, metal pins, in the injury area, areas, , , ive read that this is not , , then dont do this, cause, , it will pull, fluids and toxins out of the injury site, , and it could well pull also the metal pins ect, , so you dont want that., , also theres a taro plant, hard to get a hold of, , in the potaoteo family, even supposed to be more powerful, , just like the raw potaoe, , so just telling, , it really works , on almost all injury swellings long after the 72 hour window, of ice rice , injury swelling methods, , , and it will keep pulling pout , over and over again, for however the injury swelling takes, even inkuries, 6 months and older, as long as there is, trapped fluids, under the skin, that hasnt healed right, most injuries dont thats to fake doctors, ect, poultice after poultice, more and more go down, before your eyes, you got to get all the inflammation and swelling out, or you will easily reinjure all over again, and thier fakeass steriod, ect, corticazone ect, they dont, do not, there is no documentation, evr ive nor anyone else evrr found, that they acually reduce the fluid, swelling. ok?. you want to get it all outta ther, , to where, its just like or almost like your other limb. , and , sometimes we know the other limb, has had its deformaties, from injuries ect, so i know it aint easy to judge, , but the more self examination and hands and eyes on your own body , the better., , and get, demand , your exrays, mri copies, ultrasounds all, demand before you leave the office, and ,if cannot due then and there due to time constaints whatever, , then make sure they mail them to you, and man, get on them , every few like 3 days ect, to make sure, , they acually gonna send, and mail them to you, many live waay to far, away from the nearest city hos, i wrote too much, and most will just, , sneer, and laugh, but immma tell you, there are, , , things, , antural remedies, , and safer some things holistially, , gods natural remedies that can truelly help mankind, , without the dangers and all the greed, , ,, all injuries take time to heal, but , the more we all knoiw , about all, injuries, muscles tissues, , anatomy charts, , tendons, ligaments, bursas, , ect., down the rabbit hole, of deep reearch, god please give you , peace, and safety, , , all of it., ps. if ever you have an open wound or infection, , pulling poutices amde of activated charcoal, the exterior, kind, for external, , theres 2 different kinds of activated charcoal, one is for exteranal , poultices, to pull out the toxins, the the other is spoecifaically safe for internal usage, , follow and learn, , qctivated charcoal poultices, can pull out toxins from poisonois , spider bites, ect., , , bentonite clay can do also, but activated charcoal is the fast one, no time to mess around, , , bentonite clays, have 2 differnt kinds also, one kind is food grade internal safe, and the others are just specifically for exterior draw out poultices, , these will draw out , toxins, from injuries, , but if youve got just, or mainly just noraml swelling, injury sites, then raw grated potatoe, is the best in this world, for that, , people need to think, these things are for real, they get down between the skin layers, to any injury site, through the skin, , and things get pulled drawn lout through the same skin, miracles, ok?, you can heal bone spurs, any injury if you can reach it, you can eventually, dissolve bone spurs anywheres on the body, how? heres your real honest recipe, , the major 4 essential oils , topically, marjoram, lavender, balsam fir needle, and cypress, those 4 , the most major essential topical oils, ok?, get the cheapest cost , but pure brands, like the now brand, waay cheaper but all still real and pure, , now heres the protocol, to literally dissolve, i said dissolve away your bone spurs, anywheres on the body., , take 3-4 drps each essential oil in one small glass container bowl, , with 3 times more, of safe carrier oil, like castor oil, or cocnut oil, , mix, with fingers, or non metal , then another galss type small bowl, with apple cider vinerga, the any kind thats got the mother, like, braggs, or any, ahy cheaper brand, same kind organic, shake the bottle mother, but much cheaper, price, , put the apple cider vinegar in that seperate glass bowl, and add, just enough clean water, to safely dilute, mix, and dip brown paper bag, piece, into and saturate the brown paper bag piece, in the apcvwater, bowl, old time remedy, but , not nearly effective, as now, then take that same soaked brown paper bag piece, , soaked in apcv, and water, and dip it into the 4 essential ols blend with carrier oil, bowl, , plaaaace on the bone spur site, and then, , if at home, and you have the time?, place a , hot pack, designated for heat, you know the hot cold packs, well, have at least one or so dedicated for microwave heat, and just , put in micro, and , very very not many seconds, keep with, and monitor, , put fingers under the wrap cloth bag, to feel the gel pack, , , till you get the temp you think is just right, not too hot, the gel, pack, is the one, , regardless, the cloth wrap, kinda gets in the way, , of the temp., but, , , not too hot, and not too cold, than lay down sit down watch tv. movie, whatever, for like 15 mins. at a session time, , this combo, combined with a safe temp, heat pack, , , i kid you not, youll feel with your own fingers each session, the bone spur goes down, a little more each, session, , approx. 15 mins, redo , all as nessesary, it takes time , to dissolve a bone spur, its fast to get one and , could take months or , years, , oh it will be gone, the question is , how much time a day a person has and can dedicate to?, , so yes all real in front of your eyes, doctors? on bone spurs?, nada, nothing, , nothing, waht just live with it?, drop dead assholes., now remember, what i say, must use, a safe carrior oil with all, all, any essential oils, and fro every one drop of any essential topical oil, use 3 times, the drops, of a safe carrier oil, , get it?, to dilute, they all hot too the skin, ect, , , and for each , do the math, and for the apcv, water bowl the same, , ok?, you need to dilute the apcv, with water, , ya know, like for every 21 tble sponn apcv, like 2- 3 tablespoons , or little more to safely dilute, remember, you putting it on your skin with the essentail oils and a safe, , warm, not to hot heating, pad to accelerate , but not burn, ok?, , im tellin real things here, dont know why, becuase , most people dont want , , to take the time, nor believe, accually believe, that, , there are gods given natural, and holistic, remedies, not new age wackos, , dangerous, self agandised quacks, just like the fake doctors, and big paharma, , just the tip of the iceberg, , , theres all kinds of injuries, some have hardened scar tissue , , atrophy, they call it, , , well thats a massage therapy , and , , thasts when you, if the injury is scar tissue buildup, and not from swelling fluids underthe skin, then you need to know about croos friction fiber massage, , you can do yourself at home, but you have to know, have to hone in on, the must know, what mauscle gruops, in that area, you injured, the antomy chart, how the muscle fibers run, in that area, which directions?, , , , , so that you can, , do cross fiber massage on yourself, daily to , reduce, and make the muscle injury, bulge, smaller, by directing, the musclel fibers to , reaaline, , with there natural , order, , 15 minute sessions, , pulled muscle somewhere?, that never healed right?, and you know, , you know, must know, ok?, that it aint at this point, any taped fluids swelling, i mean its just muscle knot, , then its gonna be cross friction massage, , 15 min. sessions much as you can do daily, , first, ice the area, 5 minutes, , then crucial must know, the muscle fibers , anotomy charts, showing the muscle groups in that area how each group runs the dirrections of the muscle fibers< ya see?, , because, thats hwo you do cross friction fiber massage., you run, perpendicular, just read all about it, , if youve managed to get that far grace of god, , and , 5 minuted of that, with slight oil on skin, and fingers, or to save your joints and fingers, , a small, semi hard , but not too hard ball, not a tennis ball, that just chaffs the skin, and burns, and causes porblems, , got to be creative and think outside the box, , , because, your workin your fingers ect, , and dont want to create more problems, , , ther is, a massager out there, i have found on amazon, , to help for real, , on many, injuries, to self massage, like fingers, , ok?, get real, cause, , no one wants us to self massage, and couldnt care less, about us , we need massagers , that have the closest we can find, to fingers, when, we are tissue massaging., the closest ive found is the vivreal, cordless amssager, amazon, , it has many tipson it, but one in particular, closest resembles a finger, ok?, and can ,use, with the other limb, without too much heavy wieght ect., while self massaging, dont wehat to, burn, , , the skin, , like a tennis ball, ect, and dont want to cause another limb or joint, , injury due to overexertion, , we are tryin to heal injuries, not, create, other, and cause more downtime, ect. , god bless you brother fo real, and all who , try, with gods help, to navigate.

Wow my friend! That was a LOT to write!
I can't even express the amount of gratitude that I feel for you taking all that time to help out a complete stranger!
I'm going to save it and use it as a reference guide while I'm healing.

I am 20 weeks post op and I am almost back to normal.

They absolutely cannot heal themselves. While you might notice it getting better, it will be greatly weakened with a tear and it's only a matter of time. The older you get the less chance you have that RC surgery will be successful in returning you to near normal. The next solution would be shoulder replacement (yikes).

I would definitely do it again even though the pain and immobilization was really tough.

Think more like a year for full recovery.

Good Luck!

Yes, I've had rotator cuff surgery, and decided on surgery to affect the repair. After the surgery I attended physical therapy, and recovered slowly, at the pace the therapist advised. One of the exercises involved a tiny and tall wooden ladder on the wall.

The technology has advanced quite a bit, and it is a minimally invasive procedure. Prior to the surgery,I also chose to watch other surgeons perform the repair, to get an idea of what the damage looks like, and to inform myself for how it is done. Then when I went to see the surgeon prior to the actual surgery, was able to get a better idea of how he does it.

Medication?
I keep a list of what I took, when I took it, why I took it, and what were the results. Because one night I forgot if I took my pain pills, and was so worried about overdosing, that I kept myself up all night, because the literature stated that you could stop breathing once I fell asleep.

I'm just learning about curcumin now, but wasn't using it then, for that ailment.

A family member, sent me some ice packs that use Velcro to keep it on, but I didn't have anyone to put it on me, and I worried that getting it off might tear out my repair. I got better use from a simple gel pack, given by the surgeon. Sleep was easier to happen in the sheet covered recliner chair.

Thanks for your story! I just ordered this off Amazon in anticipation.
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Had similar problems, not sure if it was torn or not.

Took 3 years at least to return to functionality.
Throwing a baseball like a girl because of lack of mobility was not a lot of fun.

Torn is right but surgery or not? I had some relief with massage but a year later… I still have some pain and weakness but I am glad I didn’t have the surgery