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Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor

 
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Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
The speed is 100 mph more then the black hawk and it has VTOL and Horizontal
Flight pretty cool
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There replacing these helicopters with the tiltcopters
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looks like a slug compared to the blackhawk
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Widow Makers
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Well - yes.

I wonder if it's better than the V-22 Osprey?
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Cool! Maybe they can have as many operational accidents as the Marines did with the Osprey...
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The speed is 100 mph more then the black hawk and it has VTOL and Horizontal
Flight pretty cool
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What kind of license or rating do you need to fly that thang?

Rotary wing, fixed wing, both, or something else?
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Widow Makers
 Quoting: *SNR


Well - yes.

I wonder if it's better than the V-22 Osprey?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84876270



If it's anything like the Osprey they should be in service somewhere around 32 A.A.(After Apocalypse).
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
There is no prototype ?

It is just a digital design?

LoL get me in on some of that government CHEEEEESEEEEEE
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Widow Makers
 Quoting: *SNR


Well - yes.

I wonder if it's better than the V-22 Osprey?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84876270


I don't know why but it looks more stable

maybe longer wing span?
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Too bad they can't design something with ducted fans as the v-280 propulsion system is a complex mechanism with many points of failure including arms fire.
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“Cool! Maybe they can have as many operational accidents as the Marines did with the Osprey...”

I believe the Osprey had fewer developmental problems than

previous airplanes.

The problem is a large capacity carrier has large number of fatalities

if loaded when it goes down.

The last one to go down only lost 3- the crew!

Still a great loss for the families involved.
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Worked out well with the Osprey for the Corp...sigh
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just release the ufos already
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I hope they figured out what to fix on the design so it doesn't have such a high crash rate as the Osprey.
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“Cool! Maybe they can have as many operational accidents as the Marines did with the Osprey...”

I believe the Osprey had fewer developmental problems than

previous airplanes.

The problem is a large capacity carrier has large number of fatalities

if loaded when it goes down.

The last one to go down only lost 3- the crew!

Still a great loss for the families involved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83891849




The issue is torsional values. The stresses placed on the airframe in transition is far beyond anything experienced by and airframe designed for one mode of operation or another.

It's another attempt by the MIC to have a jack of all trades platform, that does none of them well.
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Widow Makers
 Quoting: *SNR


Well - yes.

I wonder if it's better than the V-22 Osprey?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84876270


I don't know why but it looks more stable

maybe longer wing span?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84852842


It seems to have a higher aspect ratio wing with a higher stall speed, and the tilt-rotors probably have a higher transition speed.
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
just release the ufos already
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You can swarm it with 1000 explosive drones for 500 bucks each.
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Widow Makers
 Quoting: *SNR


Well - yes.

I wonder if it's better than the V-22 Osprey?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84876270


I don't know why but it looks more stable

maybe longer wing span?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84852842


It seems to have a higher aspect ratio wing with a higher stall speed, and the tilt-rotors probably have a higher transition speed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84876270


You sound like you know what you're talking about, but you don't.

All aspect ratio is, is the ratio between wing length and width.

Speed of the rotors have nothing to do with anything. Speed doesn't generate lift in a craft of this nature, pitch of the prop does.
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Well - yes.

I wonder if it's better than the V-22 Osprey?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84876270


I don't know why but it looks more stable

maybe longer wing span?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84852842


It seems to have a higher aspect ratio wing with a higher stall speed, and the tilt-rotors probably have a higher transition speed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84876270


You sound like you know what you're talking about, but you don't.

All aspect ratio is, is the ratio between wing length and width.

Speed of the rotors have nothing to do with anything. Speed doesn't generate lift in a craft of this nature, pitch of the prop does.
 Quoting: Einherjar of Flies


well it would be a combo of speed and pitch

but it does look more stable.

Ive seen the osprey land and they are quite awkward
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
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I don't know why but it looks more stable

maybe longer wing span?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84852842


It seems to have a higher aspect ratio wing with a higher stall speed, and the tilt-rotors probably have a higher transition speed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84876270


You sound like you know what you're talking about, but you don't.

All aspect ratio is, is the ratio between wing length and width.

Speed of the rotors have nothing to do with anything. Speed doesn't generate lift in a craft of this nature, pitch of the prop does.
 Quoting: Einherjar of Flies


well it would be a combo of speed and pitch

but it does look more stable.

Ive seen the osprey land and they are quite awkward
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84796797



The longer the chord of the wing, the more lift it generates, hence the use of flaps on fixed wing aircraft during landings. Greater lift equals lower stall speed.

If you lengthen the wing, you can accomplish the same thing, and there's where aspect ration comes into play.
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It seems to have a higher aspect ratio wing with a higher stall speed, and the tilt-rotors probably have a higher transition speed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84876270


You sound like you know what you're talking about, but you don't.

All aspect ratio is, is the ratio between wing length and width.

Speed of the rotors have nothing to do with anything. Speed doesn't generate lift in a craft of this nature, pitch of the prop does.
 Quoting: Einherjar of Flies


well it would be a combo of speed and pitch

but it does look more stable.

Ive seen the osprey land and they are quite awkward
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84796797



The longer the chord of the wing, the more lift it generates, hence the use of flaps on fixed wing aircraft during landings. Greater lift equals lower stall speed.

If you lengthen the wing, you can accomplish the same thing, and there's where aspect ration comes into play.
 Quoting: Einherjar of Flies


I dont know why but it does appear to have a longer wing
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
I've yet to see video proof of any thing from an F35 to a V280 transition from horizontal to vertical flight.
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84787901


There replacing these helicopters with the tiltcopters
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84787901


Reminds me of something from Avatar.
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And where did they come up with these speed parameters?

Is 100 mph faster that important?

You can hear the damn things miles away....ospreys that is.

Ground attack role is laughable though there were a couple stills of different strike packages that also fit in an autonomous drone helicopter.

What's the purpose of this monstrosity over traditional helicopters?
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Does anyone have an info graphic comparison of cost, performance/capacity, as to why this is a preferable platform?
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
The speed is 100 mph more then the black hawk and it has VTOL and Horizontal
Flight pretty cool
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84677550


What kind of license or rating do you need to fly that thang?

Rotary wing, fixed wing, both, or something else?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84876270


Yes
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Re: Army is replacing its helicopters with the V-280 valor
What happens if a single rotor is taken out? Can it fly on a single rotor or auto-rotate in a power-out emergency?
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