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Secession Support Explodes!!!

 
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Both sides are persecutors. Just use today's example to make it simple instead of writing a mile-long paragraph explaining it all.

Britney Griner an American Citizen was being held prisoner in a foreign country over an insignificant amount of grass. The right cheered it on when she got locked up, and the right groans when she is released.

They don't actually care about human rights or the individual. Neither side does. Had it been a right wing person arrested for a similar charge, the left would be the ones groaning on their release.

We don't even support our own citizens freedom against foreign adversaries.
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That's not entirely true...

The prisoner swap was mismatched. You gonna give the Ruskies a known Arms Dealer for Griner. Now if the Russians execute this Arms Dealer, then I'm all for it. I doubt that will happen...

smoking1
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Oh, so we place value on a person based on their political beliefs? hmmmmm

Point stands.
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The Arms Dealer will kill more people than Griner...
 Quoting: DuckNCover


If they had arrested someone you admire based on their political view whoever it is, would you be happy if they were free? Or, would you rather them suffer?

Hate to cut and run in middle of convo, but I gotta go to work.
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the Union will stand
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Wouldn't be any better. Both sides of the political aisle are batshit crazy.
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Okay, one side wants Individual freedom under a systems of laws, passed by consent, that recognize and protect natural rights.

The other sides want the community to come before the individual, feels their ends justify the means, and that freedom is what is left over after the community has made demands

What is the centrist point of view? There is no way to integrate these views as a matter of principle.
If an individuals rights can be negated by the community in one situation, what is to prevent that from happening in all situations?


Or are you just a "there should be no government " and mad max our lives type?
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Both sides are persecutors. Just use today's example to make it simple instead of writing a mile-long paragraph explaining it all.

Britney Griner an American Citizen was being held prisoner in a foreign country over an insignificant amount of grass. The right cheered it on when she got locked up, and the right groans when she is released.

They don't actually care about human rights or the individual. Neither side does. Had it been a right wing person arrested for a similar charge, the left would be the ones groaning on their release.

We don't even support our own citizens freedom against foreign adversaries.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84790430


You obviously have a different idea of what "right wing" means in America.

There is only one political party in America, run by the deep state . This is composed of Democrats and Republicans- the latter simply pay lip service to individualism, while consistently towing the line for the collectivists.

Secession is individualists rejecting this one party politcal system
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god forbid the trump tards have their way

if you hadn’t noticed, the plans are well underway. contributing to their desired outcome just means you’re one of them
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kys queer.
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If secession happens the question is what happens to people stuck behind the lines? Texas would secede for example. What happens to all the Libs in Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Austin, El Paso, Brownsville, etc?
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If secession happens the question is what happens to people stuck behind the lines? Texas would secede for example. What happens to all the Libs in Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Austin, El Paso, Brownsville, etc?
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Texas could not let Houston go because of the Energy production. San Antonio for the Military Bases, Austin for the Tech, etc.
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the ONLY way you secede is via a bloody civil war ---- see how that worked out for Ukraine ..... nothing left to rule over or secede from .....so ...

stfu
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Civil War is inevitable now. We are balkanized. No more common border, language, or culture to keep us together.
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... this has actually been needed for DECADES! ...
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... a city/state system should have been implemented long ago ...
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god forbid the trump tards have their way

if you hadn’t noticed, the plans are well underway. contributing to their desired outcome just means you’re one of them
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we're tired of being attacked by the likes of you. eat shit commie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81474821


The enemy doesn't know just how bad it is going to get for them....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76694111


I am no commie lol... just stating basic observation

I believe you are experiencing what is known as stockholm syndrome

you believe he is the only way out of this, yet, he is the only reason you are here. goodluck friends
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The idea of secession has been bantered about long before Trump came on the political scene.
Fate whispers to the warrior

"You cannot withstand the storm"

the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

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listen up goofs . you are NOT seceding from anything!
no state is allowed to leave the good ole usa --even if the place turns into an shithole autocracy.

that all got settled in the civil war . so sit yo asses back down on the couch and have another six-pack and another 6 inch wiener with a bun---you aint going anywhere.


5astfubattleflag
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lol

Tell that to the former Soviet states.
Fate whispers to the warrior

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"I am the storm"

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If secession happens the question is what happens to people stuck behind the lines? Texas would secede for example. What happens to all the Libs in Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Austin, El Paso, Brownsville, etc?
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Texans would give them safe passage to libbieland, IF they go peacefully.
Fate whispers to the warrior

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the warrior whispers back

"I am the storm"

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I sure hope so, let the leftists rot in their cities when all the “red neck racists” they despise so much stop growing their food.
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Brain dead stupidity has exploded.
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If secession happens the question is what happens to people stuck behind the lines? Texas would secede for example. What happens to all the Libs in Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Austin, El Paso, Brownsville, etc?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75032015


Tar and Feather them and send them up to Canada...

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god forbid the trump tards have their way

if you hadn’t noticed, the plans are well underway. contributing to their desired outcome just means you’re one of them
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Don't you have a bag of dicks so suck somewhere tardass?
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the ONLY way you secede is via a bloody civil war ---- see how that worked out for Ukraine ..... nothing left to rule over or secede from .....so ...

stfu
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And O'Biden has nukes and f-15's and he's willing to use them on domestic terrorists (patriots)
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god forbid the trump tards have their way

if you hadn’t noticed, the plans are well underway. contributing to their desired outcome just means you’re one of them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83744674


Have their way? You mean living free of the control of self-righteous busy bodies who treat other people like resources for their own agenda?

Collectivist tyrants oppose succession and self determination because they don't want the people they wish to exploit leaving.
Don't believe me - why isn't social security voluntary? Why isn't the ACA voluntary? Because if they were the people the left wish to exploit wouldn't participate.

And the video is wrong - this is still about Cites vs. rural. and Identity is individual or based on some arbitrary group. This is still ideology. The oldest battle of mankind in fact


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Well Said, thank you!!
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the ONLY way you secede is via a bloody civil war ---- see how that worked out for Ukraine ..... nothing left to rule over or secede from .....so ...

stfu
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Civil War is inevitable now. We are balkanized. No more common border, language, or culture to keep us together.
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Divide and conquer.

Y'all been conquered!
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The title of the thread should read,
“Balkanization support explodes!!”
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Instead of secession, take your country back
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god forbid the trump tards have their way

if you hadn’t noticed, the plans are well underway. contributing to their desired outcome just means you’re one of them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83744674


we're tired of being attacked by the likes of you. eat shit commie
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81474821


The enemy doesn't know just how bad it is going to get for them....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76694111


I am no commie lol... just stating basic observation

I believe you are experiencing what is known as stockholm syndrome

you believe he is the only way out of this, yet, he is the only reason you are here. goodluck friends
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82457275


Really, he is the one that shut down our energy and insist on going electric. You some kind of stupid aren't you
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listen up goofs . you are NOT seceding from anything!
no state is allowed to leave the good ole usa --even if the place turns into an shithole autocracy.

that all got settled in the civil war . so sit yo asses back down on the couch and have another six-pack and another 6 inch wiener with a bun---you aint going anywhere.


5astfubattleflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80199568


Wrong, read the Declaration of Independence and Constitution.

It literally commands The People to abolish the old and create a NEW GOVERNMENT that does the Will of The People.
That could easily include secession.
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ok so you decide you want to seceede, what happens when the rest of the regular US says nope we arent helping you out, now you have no electricity, no clean water, no fuel, no access to TV, no food supply, no access to roadways out of your little area? you arent allowed into the rest of the US now, what are you going to do? you have no military force and cant fight against the US. the govt will list you as a banned country to trade with so now you have nothing going for you, sounds like a real utopia huh?
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The enemy doesn't know just how bad it is going to get for them....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76694111


I am no commie lol... just stating basic observation

I believe you are experiencing what is known as stockholm syndrome

you believe he is the only way out of this, yet, he is the only reason you are here. goodluck friends
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Who are you talking about?
 Quoting: Guv’nor


"Trump is the root of all evil".

the insanity is pretty amazing. it's not sick
liberal policies that alienated people towards Trump,
it was Trump's godlike power that created all problems.

lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84891497


Still not clear on what you are trying to say. What godlike power did Trump use and which problems are you reffering to? The scamdemic that was carried out by China and the democrats? The tyrannical dictates and intentional economic sabatoge coming from the white house? Oh wait... that last one is Brandon, sorry.
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Nothing got "settled" in the first civil war.
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listen up goofs . you are NOT seceding from anything!
no state is allowed to leave the good ole usa --even if the place turns into an shithole autocracy.

that all got settled in the civil war . so sit yo asses back down on the couch and have another six-pack and another 6 inch wiener with a bun---you aint going anywhere.


5astfubattleflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80199568


Wrong, read the Declaration of Independence and Constitution.

It literally commands The People to abolish the old and create a NEW GOVERNMENT that does the Will of The People.
That could easily include secession.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77034040


ok so you decide you want to seceede, what happens when the rest of the regular US says nope we arent helping you out, now you have no electricity, no clean water, no fuel, no access to TV, no food supply, no access to roadways out of your little area? you arent allowed into the rest of the US now, what are you going to do? you have no military force and cant fight against the US. the govt will list you as a banned country to trade with so now you have nothing going for you, sounds like a real utopia huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5781511


The mid-west could just leave en masse and let you fuckers starve. Who's going to feed you, China? Haha...
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god forbid the trump tards have their way

if you hadn’t noticed, the plans are well underway. contributing to their desired outcome just means you’re one of them
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83744674


Have their way? You mean living free of the control of self-righteous busy bodies who treat other people like resources for their own agenda?

Collectivist tyrants oppose succession and self determination because they don't want the people they wish to exploit leaving.
Don't believe me - why isn't social security voluntary? Why isn't the ACA voluntary? Because if they were the people the left wish to exploit wouldn't participate.

And the video is wrong - this is still about Cites vs. rural. and Identity is individual or based on some arbitrary group. This is still ideology. The oldest battle of mankind in fact


https://imgur.com/cRksFdb

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Good luck supporting your new areas without any population. You are already a drain on the country. At least the rest of us will be rid of that burden
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listen up goofs . you are NOT seceding from anything!
no state is allowed to leave the good ole usa --even if the place turns into an shithole autocracy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80199568



Secession is, by definition, treason - since you at that moment declare yourself not only "not of" but also a direct enemy of the nation you secede from. You are, after all, stealing property the nation believes is theirs.

The legality of such a move is moot if it succeeds, however.
Panem Et Circenses - Until you know what it means you'll never understand politics.

The extent of effort most people want to expend to effect change is to lift a single finger and point at someone else.





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