Do we live in a simulation? The problem with this mind-bending hypothesis. | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70707278 United States 12/08/2022 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is Definitely Mind Bending Stuff! I Do Believe We Do Live in a Simulation! What You Think GLP? Quoting: MAGA-19-1392 "You know, the Matrix. Once our descendants build such a computer, they will inevitably create countless simulated beings — just try to count how many creatures in video games have appeared and disappeared since we first developed the technology. Very quickly, the number of simulated conscious brains living in a computer will vastly outnumber the organic brains living in the real universe. If this ends up happening, we are left with three possibilities: 1. Our descendants (or other intelligent beings in the universe) will never be able to develop the technological ability to faithfully simulate the cosmos. 2. Our descendants (or other intelligent beings in the universe) will develop the technology but choose not to simulate the cosmos. 3. The vast majority of all conscious entities, including you, are living in a simulation." [link to www.space.com (secure)] We cannot create consciousness. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79583533 United States 12/08/2022 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've read the literature. Read all you want. Gnosis speaks to learning through experience not teachings. The drawback is this method doesn't fund churches and new sweet automobiles. Good luck! |
MAGA-19-1392
(OP) User ID: 37765109 United States 12/08/2022 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is Definitely Mind Bending Stuff! I Do Believe We Do Live in a Simulation! What You Think GLP? Quoting: MAGA-19-1392 "You know, the Matrix. Once our descendants build such a computer, they will inevitably create countless simulated beings — just try to count how many creatures in video games have appeared and disappeared since we first developed the technology. Very quickly, the number of simulated conscious brains living in a computer will vastly outnumber the organic brains living in the real universe. If this ends up happening, we are left with three possibilities: 1. Our descendants (or other intelligent beings in the universe) will never be able to develop the technological ability to faithfully simulate the cosmos. 2. Our descendants (or other intelligent beings in the universe) will develop the technology but choose not to simulate the cosmos. 3. The vast majority of all conscious entities, including you, are living in a simulation." [link to www.space.com (secure)] We cannot create consciousness. Or Deny It. |
Aware Being Aware User ID: 83547535 Japan 12/08/2022 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is Definitely Mind Bending Stuff! I Do Believe We Do Live in a Simulation! What You Think GLP? Quoting: MAGA-19-1392 ... There is a very simple, scientifically founded and also by all five big religions since millennia proven answer to this: You, your ego, your personal identity, the perceived free will and also the whole world experienced through the person, are a simulation. That what simulates. the consciousness-awareness, cannot be simulated because it has no dimensional quality at all which could be grasped. BTW: Who has understood this, understands of course also the ancient messages, like e.g. those of the Bible, especially the one of Jesus and he also recognizes that here on GLP all "Jesus is coming soon", "choose Jesus as your savior and redeemer" and other scripture spammers are all lost and NO genuine Christians. This is very sad because the actual reality can be easily verified by anyone if you do what you are told in the holy scriptures of mankind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84852625 United States 12/08/2022 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nobody would create a fucking simulation where they do shitty jobs all day everyday of their lives the only way you could possibly believe any such non sense is if you have had a really good life, people wouldn't DIE in a simulation you either exist or you do not exist |
TheDarkMan
User ID: 80276927 United States 12/08/2022 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DEFINE SPACE Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84314613 THE TRUTH ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST ALL VARIATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT SPACE PROVIDED BY JESUS CHRIST IS IMPERFECT INACCURATE AND INCONSISTENT AND IS SUBJECT TO DEATH IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE Really? Reply with proof. Thank you. What am I thinking? How do I feel? What am I doing? |
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Loup Garou
User ID: 80950725 United States 12/08/2022 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can thank me later.. Andrew Basiago Art Bell-Andrew Basiago- Time travel and teleportation Just because YOU don’t believe in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No ! The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it. "If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." - Thomas Paine The only thing the Illuminati fears is an independent person who can live, eat, sleep, stay warm and defend themselves separate from Federal help. Pray that the Lord gives us more time! The End is near and time is short! A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion. ~Proverbs 18:2 For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible "A candle loses nothing by lighting another candle" - James Keller Checkd, Keked, and Rekt! #Kids2 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84314613 United States 12/08/2022 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DEFINE SPACE Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84314613 THE TRUTH ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST ALL VARIATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT SPACE PROVIDED BY JESUS CHRIST IS IMPERFECT INACCURATE AND INCONSISTENT AND IS SUBJECT TO DEATH IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE Really? Reply with proof. Thank you. Look it up in the dictionary Space is the key to everything You occupy space If you define space like science does or NASA does You will die However Define space in absolute and perfect terms The results will be absolute and perfect Every time Forever |
MAGA-19-1392
(OP) User ID: 37765109 United States 12/08/2022 11:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is Definitely Mind Bending Stuff! I Do Believe We Do Live in a Simulation! What You Think GLP? Quoting: MAGA-19-1392 ... There is a very simple, scientifically founded and also by all five big religions since millennia proven answer to this: You, your ego, your personal identity, the perceived free will and also the whole world experienced through the person, are a simulation. That what simulates. the consciousness-awareness, cannot be simulated because it has no dimensional quality at all which could be grasped. BTW: Who has understood this, understands of course also the ancient messages, like e.g. those of the Bible, especially the one of Jesus and he also recognizes that here on GLP all "Jesus is coming soon", "choose Jesus as your savior and redeemer" and other scripture spammers are all lost and NO genuine Christians. This is very sad because the actual reality can be easily verified by anyone if you do what you are told in the holy scriptures of mankind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84824933 Ireland 12/08/2022 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | from that point on it was confirmed to me. and no, i dont do drugs or drink |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84824933 Ireland 12/08/2022 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nobody would create a fucking simulation where they do shitty jobs all day everyday of their lives Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84852625 the only way you could possibly believe any such non sense is if you have had a really good life, people wouldn't DIE in a simulation you either exist or you do not exist oh yes they would. we EXPEL massive amounts of energy when we work. MASSIVE amounts. we transfer our energy to other things when we are doing a task. those who may have made the simulation are perhaps using us on an energy farm to harness and use our energy to power themselves or their civilizations. It would make PERFECT SENSE if an entity set up a simulation to have us work every single day. |
MAGA-19-1392
(OP) User ID: 37765109 United States 12/08/2022 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. I have seen it. One night in my early 20s. I was going for a walk in the woods when I came across this "black pit" in the leaves. it was in the middle of some trees. I looked over and wondered "wtf is that?? O.o " I'm talking PITCH black like a mini black hole. it glitched out after a while and then turned into leaves, like it was never ever there. I SAW the holographic colors for half a second before it turned from pitch black into the leaves just like you see everywhere. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84824933 from that point on it was confirmed to me. and no, i dont do drugs or drink Interesting. |
BrainGuy, MAGA Republican
White heteropatriarchal supremacist chemophob User ID: 66412438 United States 12/08/2022 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30056837 Greece 12/08/2022 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since a computer, even of that size and speed that would simulate the locality of our planet, would eventually run out of resources at some point and the only way to estimate the actual capabilities of it is to try and replicate as many actual simulated people as possible in order to see it having difficulties rendering our consciousness. This would create a different thread for each person on the planet, the same for each animal (if they are sentient all the time and not only they are observed by actual simulated people), so we could bring the machine to its knees, except if we see "sudden deaths" like we do in our times. So maybe COVID and the "cures" are actually imposed by the sysadmins of the system in order to save up resources and even a war would help with that. Maybe they'll try a virus in Africa since they are the ones eating consciousness resources since they give birth to children all the time... |
Inquire Within
User ID: 78689057 United States 12/08/2022 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is Definitely Mind Bending Stuff! I Do Believe We Do Live in a Simulation! What You Think GLP? Quoting: MAGA-19-1392 "You know, the Matrix. Once our descendants build such a computer, they will inevitably create countless simulated beings — just try to count how many creatures in video games have appeared and disappeared since we first developed the technology. Very quickly, the number of simulated conscious brains living in a computer will vastly outnumber the organic brains living in the real universe. If this ends up happening, we are left with three possibilities: 1. Our descendants (or other intelligent beings in the universe) will never be able to develop the technological ability to faithfully simulate the cosmos. 2. Our descendants (or other intelligent beings in the universe) will develop the technology but choose not to simulate the cosmos. 3. The vast majority of all conscious entities, including you, are living in a simulation." [link to www.space.com (secure)] They lost me at the assumption that there are physical brains. To me, there are only "dream brains" in a "dream universe." It is a simulation. I just haven't decided if it's an AI simulation or a "Maya-Mind-Ego" simulation (mind is not brain to me). The conclusion I came to while contemplating this, though, is "It doesn't matter." Just live your life and try to see the true nature of things. In The Matrix, "There is no spoon" represents "There is no separate 'I' or 'mind' apart from Awareness." Realizing this, we see that we are not the mind or this mind-created sense of "I am a separate individual body-mind." We are that which precedes the mind and body (including the brain). We are literally dreaming everything. Have you ever had a dream where you saw things that you knew made no sense (as most dreams don't) and you questioned it while in the dream and said to yourself, "I must be dreaming. This can't be real, as it makes no sense. I'm going to try to make myself wake up right now," and yet the dream continues, and yet you're still confident it's just a dream, and yet it's all appearing 100% real and solid, exactly as in the waking state? It's a form of accidental lucid dreaming. It's happened to me a few times where I was dreaming and knew I was dreaming but couldn't get myself out of it right away. I think the world is the same way. It's just a longer-lasting, more persistent dream. We should question the reality of it, and the reality of our own nature. Are we really a mind (a collection of ever-changing thoughts, feelings, and perceptions)? Are we really a body that changes as we age and eventually expires? Are we really a separate self known as "I" or "me" even though this "me" can never be seen, pinned down, or observed as it has no shape, size, or location? Anyway, the brain itself -- all of this -- is illusory. None of it is real. Even the sense of "I am" isn't real, ultimately, as it arose with the body, and will disappear when the body does. But the body and sense of "I am" (both illusory) arise within something that is Real, and that is our true nature. Some call is Pure Awareness or Pure Consciousness or the Absolute. It is beyond even the sense of "I am" or "I exist" as it remains before, during, and after the appearance of this sense of "being" or existing. To those still heavily locked into this illusion, if you don't wish to suffer through millions of apparent (illusory) births, lives, and deaths (dream lives), I would encourage you to start questioning your ultimate reality. *All statements above represent my personal opinions. If you disagree, simply add me to your ignore list. |
MAGA-19-1392
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84888318 Ireland 12/08/2022 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is Definitely Mind Bending Stuff! I Do Believe We Do Live in a Simulation! What You Think GLP? Quoting: MAGA-19-1392 "You know, the Matrix. Once our descendants build such a computer, they will inevitably create countless simulated beings — just try to count how many creatures in video games have appeared and disappeared since we first developed the technology. Very quickly, the number of simulated conscious brains living in a computer will vastly outnumber the organic brains living in the real universe. If this ends up happening, we are left with three possibilities: 1. Our descendants (or other intelligent beings in the universe) will never be able to develop the technological ability to faithfully simulate the cosmos. 2. Our descendants (or other intelligent beings in the universe) will develop the technology but choose not to simulate the cosmos. 3. The vast majority of all conscious entities, including you, are living in a simulation." [link to www.space.com (secure)] They lost me at the assumption that there are physical brains. To me, there are only "dream brains" in a "dream universe." It is a simulation. I just haven't decided if it's an AI simulation or a "Maya-Mind-Ego" simulation (mind is not brain to me). The conclusion I came to while contemplating this, though, is "It doesn't matter." Just live your life and try to see the true nature of things. In The Matrix, "There is no spoon" represents "There is no separate 'I' or 'mind' apart from Awareness." Realizing this, we see that we are not the mind or this mind-created sense of "I am a separate individual body-mind." We are that which precedes the mind and body (including the brain). We are literally dreaming everything. Have you ever had a dream where you saw things that you knew made no sense (as most dreams don't) and you questioned it while in the dream and said to yourself, "I must be dreaming. This can't be real, as it makes no sense. I'm going to try to make myself wake up right now," and yet the dream continues, and yet you're still confident it's just a dream, and yet it's all appearing 100% real and solid, exactly as in the waking state? It's a form of accidental lucid dreaming. It's happened to me a few times where I was dreaming and knew I was dreaming but couldn't get myself out of it right away. I think the world is the same way. It's just a longer-lasting, more persistent dream. We should question the reality of it, and the reality of our own nature. Are we really a mind (a collection of ever-changing thoughts, feelings, and perceptions)? Are we really a body that changes as we age and eventually expires? Are we really a separate self known as "I" or "me" even though this "me" can never be seen, pinned down, or observed as it has no shape, size, or location? Anyway, the brain itself -- all of this -- is illusory. None of it is real. Even the sense of "I am" isn't real, ultimately, as it arose with the body, and will disappear when the body does. But the body and sense of "I am" (both illusory) arise within something that is Real, and that is our true nature. Some call is Pure Awareness or Pure Consciousness or the Absolute. It is beyond even the sense of "I am" or "I exist" as it remains before, during, and after the appearance of this sense of "being" or existing. To those still heavily locked into this illusion, if you don't wish to suffer through millions of apparent (illusory) births, lives, and deaths (dream lives), I would encourage you to start questioning your ultimate reality. |
TheDarkMan
User ID: 80276927 United States 12/08/2022 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DEFINE SPACE Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84314613 THE TRUTH ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST ALL VARIATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT SPACE PROVIDED BY JESUS CHRIST IS IMPERFECT INACCURATE AND INCONSISTENT AND IS SUBJECT TO DEATH IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE Really? Reply with proof. Thank you. Look it up in the dictionary Space is the key to everything You occupy space If you define space like science does or NASA does You will die However Define space in absolute and perfect terms The results will be absolute and perfect Every time Forever I'll go touch some space right now and be back. Last Edited by Cpt Trips on 12/08/2022 11:51 AM What am I thinking? How do I feel? What am I doing? |
Levski
User ID: 69043675 Bulgaria 12/08/2022 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The simulation (hologram) is created by.. well by the Creator. And not by man or aliens. And there are no organic brains outside of it. The only real things are our minds and thoughts. At this level at least. Time to leave the physical concept behind and become spiritual. Noah was a conspiracy theorist too, until it started raining. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84008230 United States 12/08/2022 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is Definitely Mind Bending Stuff! I Do Believe We Do Live in a Simulation! What You Think GLP? Quoting: MAGA-19-1392 "You know, the Matrix. Once our descendants build such a computer, they will inevitably create countless simulated beings — just try to count how many creatures in video games have appeared and disappeared since we first developed the technology. Very quickly, the number of simulated conscious brains living in a computer will vastly outnumber the organic brains living in the real universe. If this ends up happening, we are left with three possibilities: 1. Our descendants (or other intelligent beings in the universe) will never be able to develop the technological ability to faithfully simulate the cosmos. 2. Our descendants (or other intelligent beings in the universe) will develop the technology but choose not to simulate the cosmos. 3. The vast majority of all conscious entities, including you, are living in a simulation." [link to www.space.com (secure)] You advertised that there was a 'problem' with this theory... well? Also, not sure that your '3 possibilities' cover all the bases- might want to think about that some more. It might be good to define certain perimeters as well; terms like 'simulation, living...' as well as some of the actual potential conceptual problems/conundrums like 'free will', what lies beyond the program/, outside of the sim.? (the actual metaphysical state of affairs (is this even knowable?))etc., etc... |
BFD
User ID: 84190413 United States 12/08/2022 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We went from Nintendo to this in like 25 years... and by "this" I mean I made this simulation on a mid-level gaming pc in a day or two in Unreal Engine 5. To me, the likelihood that we live in base-reality is basically slim to nil. Any reasonably advanced civilization will first create the prerequisite knowledge and math to create such simulations, and eventually they will execute those simulations... making it a near impossibility that we are the real deal. Last Edited by BFD on 12/08/2022 11:57 AM INFJ/Conservative Artist |
Inquire Within
User ID: 78689057 United States 12/08/2022 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We went from Nintendo to this in like 25 years... and by "this" I mean I made this simulation on a mid-level gaming pc in a day or two in Unreal Engine 5. Quoting: BFD To me, the likelihood that we live in base-reality is basically slim to nil. Any reasonably advanced civilization will first create the prerequisite knowledge and math to create such simulations, and eventually they will execute those simulations... making it a near impossibility that we are the real deal. Exactly. When you see "current day" simulations like these, and you see the current state of computer, AI, virtual reality, and Neuralink development, how can one not consider that we are in a simulation of an earlier time? I believe Elon was correct in stating that the odds we are in "base reality" is billions to one. *All statements above represent my personal opinions. If you disagree, simply add me to your ignore list. |
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Aware Being Aware User ID: 83547535 Japan 12/08/2022 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The simulation (hologram) is created by.. well by the Creator. And not by man or aliens. Quoting: Levski And there are no organic brains outside of it. The only real things are our minds and thoughts. At this level at least. Time to leave the physical concept behind and become spiritual. This is exactly the error and perception disorder. The mind, its thoughts and the "Ego-I" that it contains are only temporary appearances. Real is only that in which it appears and which is eternal. You can check this very easily for yourself by trying to reach for the thoughts, to get hold of them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84599718 Canada 12/08/2022 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You live in a simulation only in the sense that you pretend you are living your life when in actuality it is all a waste Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78263873 bs. we are only day 8 into infinity. today is used to build day 9 of inifinty sandbox forever sim built by yours truly choosing death is death choosing life is eternal sandbox |
BFD
User ID: 84190413 United States 12/08/2022 12:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | MULTIVERSE a Hologram, but that doesn't exempt you from doing hard soul lessons and progression Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84239132 Don't get me wrong... I still believe in a creator and that Jesus Christ was an amazing phenomenon, and accept him as the one that died for my sins as the human incarnate of our creator here on Earth. But, what that really means in a literal sense, is anyone's guess really, or at least I won't pretend to know. INFJ/Conservative Artist |