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A permanent, electro magnetic, thermal conductive, nuclear driven, static electrical, gravitational magnetic filed, x ray, generator . a black hole that dose not conflict with physics

Earth mass (M⊕) is the unit of mass equal to one Earth. 1 M⊕ = 5.9736 × 1024 kg. Earth mass is used to describe masses of the rocky planets.

One Earth mass can be converted to related units:
81.3 Lunar mass (ML)
0.003 15 Jupiter mass (MJ)
0.000 003 003 Solar mass (M⊙)
Inertial mass is the mass of an object measured by its resistance to acceleration.
where f is the force acting on the body and v is its velocity. For the moment, we will put aside the question of what "force acting on the body" actually means.

Now, suppose that the mass of the body in question is a constant.
known as the conservation of mass, and (ii) matter can never be created or destroyed, only split up or recombined. When the mass of a body is constant, Newton's second law becomes

where a denotes the acceleration of the body.

This equation illustrates how mass relates to the inertia of a body. Consider two objects with different masses. If we apply an identical force to each, the object with a bigger mass will experience a smaller acceleration, and the object with a smaller mass will experience a bigger acceleration. We might say that the larger mass exerts a greater "resistance" to changing its state of motion in response to the force.

However, this notion of applying "identical" forces to different objects brings us back to the fact that we have not really defined what a force is. We can sidestep this difficulty with the help of Newton's third law, which states that if one object exerts a force on a second object, it will experience an equal and opposite force. To be precise, suppose we have two objects A and B, with constant inertial masses mA and mB. We isolate the two objects from all other physical influences, so that the only forces present are the force exerted on A by B, which we denote fAB, and the force exerted on B by A, which we denote fBA. As we have seen, Newton's second law states that
where aA and aB are the accelerations of A and B respectively. Suppose that these accelerations are non-zero, so that the forces between the two objects are non-zero. This occurs, for example, if the two objects are in the process of colliding with one another. Newton's third law then states that
Substituting this into the previous equations, we obtain
Note that our requirement that aA be non-zero ensures that the fraction is well-defined.
This is, in principle, how we would measure the inertial mass of an object. We choose a "reference" object and define its mass mB as (say) 1 kilogram. Then we can measure the mass of any other object in the universe by colliding it with the reference object and measuring the accelerations.
ravitational mass
Gravitational mass is the mass of an object measured using the effect of a gravitational field on the object.
The concept of gravitational mass rests on Newton's law of gravitation. Let us suppose we have two objects A and B, separated by a distance |rAB|. The law of gravitation states that if A and B have gravitational masses MA and MB respectively, then each object exerts a gravitational force on the other, of magnitude

where G is the universal gravitational constant. The above statement may be reformulated in the following way: if g is the acceleration of a reference mass at a given location in a gravitational field, then the gravitational force on an object with gravitational mass M is

This is the basis by which masses are determined by weighing. In simple bathroom scales, for example, the force f is proportional to the displacement of the spring beneath the weighing pan (see Hooke's law), and the scales are calibrated to take g into account, allowing the mass M to be read off. Note that a balance (see the subheading within Weighing scale) as used in the laboratory or the health club measures gravitational mass; only the spring scale measures weight.
[edit] Equivalence of inertial and gravitational masses

The equivalence of inertial and gravitational masses is sometimes referred to as the Galilean equivalence principle or weak equivalence principle. The most important consequence of this equivalence principle applies to freely falling objects. Suppose we have an object with inertial and gravitational masses m and M respectively. If the only force acting on the object comes from a gravitational field g, combining Newton's second law and the gravitational law yields the acceleration

This says that the ratio of gravitational to inertial mass of any object is equal to some constant K if and only if all objects fall at the same rate in a given gravitational field. This phenomenon is referred to as the universality of free-fall. (In addition, the constant K can be taken to be 1 by defining our units appropriately.)
The first experiments demonstrating the universality of free-fall were conducted by Galileo. It is commonly stated that Galileo obtained his results by dropping objects from the Leaning Tower of Pisa, but this is most likely apocryphal; actually, he performed his experiments with balls rolling down inclined planes. Increasingly precise experiments have been performed, such as those performed by Loránd Eötvös, using the torsion balance pendulum, in 1889. As of 2008, no deviation from universality, and thus from Galilean equivalence, has ever been found, at least to the accuracy 1/1012. More precise experimental efforts are still being carried out.
The universality of free-fall only applies to systems in which gravity is the only acting force. All other forces, especially friction and air resistance, must be absent or at least negligible. For example, if a hammer and a feather are dropped from the same height on Earth, the feather will take much longer to reach the ground; the feather is not really in free-fall because the force of air resistance upwards against the feather is comparable to the downward force of gravity. On the other hand, if the experiment is performed in a vacuum, in which there is no air resistance, the hammer and the feather should hit the ground at exactly the same time (assuming the acceleration of both objects towards each other, and of the ground towards both objects, for its own part, is negligible). This demonstration is easily done in a high-school laboratory, using two transparent tubes connected to a vacuum pump.
A stronger version of the equivalence principle, known as the Einstein equivalence principle or the strong equivalence principle, lies at the heart of the general theory of relativity. Einstein's equivalence principle states that within sufficiently small regions of space-time, it is impossible to distinguish between a uniform acceleration and a uniform gravitational field. Thus, the theory postulates that inertial and gravitational masses are fundamentally the same thing.
In physics, density is mass (m) per unit volume (V) — the ratio of the amount of matter in an object compared to its volume. A small, heavy object, such as a rock or a lump of lead, is denser than a larger object of the same mass, such as a piece of cork or foam.
In the common case of a homogeneous substance, density is expressed as:

where, in SI Units:
ρ (rho) is the density of the substance, measured in kg·m–3
m is the mass of the substance, measured in kg
V is the volume of the substance, measured in m3
In some cases the density is expressed as a specific gravity or relative density, in which case it is expressed in multiples of the density of some other standard material, usually water or air.
In science, matter is commonly defined as the substance of which physical objects are composed, not counting the contribution of various energy or force-fields, which are not usually considered to be matter per se (though they may contribute to the mass of objects). Matter constitutes much of the observable universe, although again, light is not ordinarily considered matter. Unfortunately, for scientific purposes, "matter" is somewhat loosely defined. It is normally defined as anything that has mass and takes up space.
Matter can be in five different states: solids, gas, liquid, plasma, and the Bose-Einstein condensate.
The volume of a solid object is the three-dimensional concept of how much space it takes up, often quantified numerically. One-dimensional figures (such as lines) and two-dimensional shapes (such as squares) are assigned zero volume in the three-dimensional space.
Volumes of straight-edged and circular shapes are calculated using arithmetic formulae. Volumes of other curved shapes are calculated using integral calculus, by approximating the given body with a large amount of small cubes or concentric cylindrical shells, and adding the individual volumes of those shapes. The volume of irregularly shaped objects can be determined by displacement. If an irregularly shaped object is less dense than the fluid, you will need a weight to attach to the floating object. A sufficient weight will cause the object to sink. The final volume of the unknown object can be found by subtracting the volume of the attached heavy object and the total fluid volume displaced.
The generalization of volume to arbitrarily many dimensions is called content.[citation needed] In differential geometry, volume is expressed by means of the volume form.
Volume and capacity are sometimes distinguished, with capacity being used for how much a container can hold (with contents measured commonly in litres or its derived units), and volume being how much space an object displaces (commonly measured in cubic metres or its derived units).
Volume and capacity are also distinguished in a capacity management setting, where capacity is defined as volume over a specified time period.
Volume is a fundamental parameter in thermodynamics and it is conjugate to pressure.
In physics, force is what causes a mass to accelerate experienced as a push or a pull. The vector sum of all forces acting on a body (known as the net force or resultant force) is proportional to the acceleration and the mass of the body. In an extended body, force may also cause rotation, deformation, or a change in pressure. Rotational effects are determined by the torques, while deformation and pressure are determined by the stresses that the forces create.[1][2]
Net force is mathematically identical to the time rate of change of the momentum of the body on which it acts.[3] Since momentum is a vector quantity (i.e., it has both a magnitude and direction), force also is a vector quantity.
Gravitation is a natural phenomenon by which all objects with mass attract each other, and is one of the fundamental forces of physics. In everyday life, gravitation is most commonly thought of as the agency that gives objects weight. It is responsible for keeping the Earth and the other planets in their orbits around the Sun; for keeping the Moon in its orbit around the Earth, for the formation of tides; for convection (by which hot fluids rise); for heating the interiors of forming stars and planets to very high temperatures; and for various other phenomena that we observe. Gravitation is also the reason for the very existence of the Earth, the Sun, and most macroscopic objects in the universe; without it, matter would not have coalesced into these large masses and life, as we know it, would not exist.
Modern physics describes gravitation using the general theory of relativity, but the much simpler Newton's law of universal gravitation provides an excellent approximation in most cases.

The kinetic energy of an object is the extra energy which it possesses due to its motion. It is defined as the work needed to accelerate a body of a given mass from rest to its current velocity. Having gained this energy during its acceleration, the body maintains this kinetic energy unless its speed changes. Negative work of the same magnitude would be required to return the body to a state of rest from that velocity.
A planet, as defined by the International Astronomical Union (IAU), is a celestial body orbiting a star or stellar remnant that is massive enough to be rounded by its own gravity, not massive enough to cause thermonuclear fusion, and has cleared its neighbouring region of planetesimals.[1][2]
he Moon (Latin: Luna) is Earth's only natural satellite and the fifth largest natural satellite in the Solar System.
The average centre-to-centre distance from the Earth to the Moon is 384,403 km, about thirty times the diameter of the Earth. The Moon's diameter is 3,474 km,[6] a little more than a quarter that of the Earth. This means that the Moon's volume is about 2 percent that of Earth and the pull of gravity at its surface about 17 percent that of the Earth. The Moon makes a complete orbit around the Earth every 27.3 days, and the periodic variations in the geometry of the Earth–Moon–Sun system are responsible for the lunar phases that repeat every 29.5 days.
A star is a massive, luminous ball of plasma. The nearest star to Earth is the Sun, which is the source of most of the energy on Earth. Other stars are visible in the night sky, when they are not outshone by the Sun. For most of its life, a star shines because thermonuclear fusion in its core releases energy that traverses the star's interior and then radiates into outer space. Almost all elements heavier than hydrogen and helium were created by fusion processes in stars.
Astronomers can determine the mass, age, chemical composition and many other properties of a star by observing its spectrum, luminosity and motion through space. The total mass of a star is the principal determinant in its evolution and eventual fate. Other characteristics of a star are determined by its evolutionary history, including the diameter, rotation, movement and temperature. A plot of the temperature of many stars against their luminosities, known as a Hertzsprung-Russell diagram (H–R diagram), allows the age and evolutionary state of a star to be determined.
A star begins as a collapsing cloud of material composed primarily of hydrogen, along with helium and trace amounts of heavier elements. Once the stellar core is sufficiently dense, some of the hydrogen is steadily converted into helium through the process of nuclear fusion.[1] The remainder of the star's interior carries energy away from the core through a combination of radiative and convective processes. The star's internal pressure prevents it from collapsing further under its own gravity. Once the hydrogen fuel at the core is exhausted, those stars having at least 0.4 times the mass of the Sun[2] expand to become a red giant, in some cases fusing heavier elements at the core or in shells around the core. The star then evolves into a degenerate form, recycling a portion of the matter into the interstellar environment, where it will form a new generation of stars with a higher proportion of heavy elements.[3]
Binary and multi-star systems consist of two or more stars that are gravitationally bound, and generally move around each other in stable orbits. When two such stars have a relatively close orbit, their gravitational interaction can have a significant impact on their evolution.[4]
The Solar System, or solar system,[a] consists of the Sun and the other celestial objects gravitationally bound to it: the eight planets, their 166 known moons,[1] three dwarf planets (Ceres, Pluto, and Eris and their four known moons), and billions of small bodies. This last category includes asteroids, Kuiper belt objects, comets, meteoroids, and interplanetary dust.
In broad terms, the charted regions of the Solar System consist of the Sun, four terrestrial inner planets, an asteroid belt composed of small rocky bodies, four gas giant outer planets, and a second belt, the Kuiper belt, composed of icy objects. Beyond the Kuiper belt is the scattered disc, the heliopause, and ultimately the hypothetical Oort cloud.
A black hole is a region of space in which the gravitational field is so powerful that nothing can escape after having fallen past the event horizon. The name comes from the fact that even electromagnetic radiation (e.g. light) is unable to escape, rendering the interior invisible. However, black holes can be detected if they interact with matter outside the event horizon, for example by drawing in gas from an orbiting star. The gas spirals inward, heating up to very high temperatures and emitting large amounts of radiation in the process.[2][3][4]
While the idea of an object with gravity strong enough to prevent light from escaping was proposed in the 18th century,[5] black holes, as presently understood, are described by Einstein's theory of general relativity, developed in 1916. This theory predicts that when a large enough amount of mass is present within a sufficiently small region of space, all paths through space are warped inwards towards the center of the volume, forcing all matter and radiation to fall inward.
While general relativity describes a black hole as a region of empty space with a pointlike singularity at the center and an event horizon at the outer edge, the description changes when the effects of quantum mechanics are taken into account. Research on this subject indicates that, rather than holding captured matter forever, black holes may slowly leak a form of thermal energy called Hawking radiation.[6][7][8] However, the final, correct description of black holes, requiring a theory of quantum gravity, is unknown.
An X-ray (or Röntgen ray) is a form of electromagnetic radiation with a wavelength in the range of 10 to 0.01 nanometers, corresponding to frequencies in the range 30 PHz to 30 EHz. They are longer than Gamma rays but shorter than UV rays. X-rays are primarily used for diagnostic radiography and crystallography. X-rays are a form of ionizing radiation and as such can be dangerous. In many languages it is called Röntgen radiation after one of the first investigators of the X-rays, Wilhelm Conrad Röntgen.
An electromagnet is a type of magnet in which the magnetic field is produced by the flow of an electric current. The magnetic field disappears when the current ceases.
A magnet is a material or object that produces a magnetic field. A low-tech means to detect a magnetic field is to scatter iron filings and observe their pattern, as in the accompanying figure. A "hard" or "permanent" magnet is one that stays magnetized, such as a magnet used to hold notes on a refrigerator door. Permanent magnets occur naturally in some rocks, particularly lodestone, but are now more commonly manufactured. A "soft" or "impermanent" magnet is one that loses its memory of previous magnetizations. "Soft" magnetic materials are often used in electromagnets to enhance (often hundreds or thousands of times) the magnetic field of a wire that carries an electrical current and is wrapped around the magnet; the field of the "soft" magnet increases with the current.
Two measures of a material's magnetic properties are its magnetic moment and its magnetization. A material without a permanent magnetic moment can, in the presence of magnetic fields, be attracted (paramagnetic), or repelled (diamagnetic). Liquid oxygen is paramagnetic; graphite is diamagnetic. Paramagnets tend to intensify the magnetic field in their vicinity, whereas diamagnets tend to weaken it. "Soft" magnets, which are strongly attracted to magnetic fields, can be thought of as strongly paramagnetic; superconductors, which are strongly repelled by magnetic fields, can be thought of as strongly diamagnetic.
Electricity
is a general term that encompasses a variety of phenomena resulting from the presence and flow of electric charge. These include many easily recognisable phenomena such as lightning and static electricity, but in addition, less familiar concepts such as the electromagnetic field and electromagnetic induction.
In general usage, the word 'electricity' is adequate to refer to a number of physical effects. However, in scientific usage, the term is vague, and these related, but distinct, concepts are better identified by more precise terms:
Electric charge – a property of some subatomic particles, which determines their electromagnetic interactions. Electrically charged matter is influenced by, and produces, electromagnetic fields.
Electric current – a movement or flow of electrically charged particles, typically measured in amperes.
Electric field – an influence produced by an electric charge on other charges in its vicinity.
Electric potential – the capacity of an electric field to do work, typically measured in volts.
Electromagnetism – a fundamental interaction between the electric field and the presence and motion of electric charge.
Static electricity refers to the accumulation of excess electric charge in a region with poor electrical conductivity, such that the charge accumulation persists. The effects of static electricity are familiar to most people because we can see, feel and even hear the spark as the excess charge is neutralized when brought close to a large electrical conductor (for example a or negative).


Effects of true density, compacted mass, compression speed, and punch deformation on the mean yield pressure
Compressibility properties of pharmaceutical materials are widely characterized by measuring the volume reduction of a powder column under pressure. Experimental data are commonly analyzed using the Heckel model from which powder deformation mechanisms are determined using mean yield pressure (Py). Several studies from the literature have shown the effects of operating conditions on the determination of Py and have pointed out the limitations of this model. The Heckel model requires true density and compacted mass values to determine Py from force-displacement data. It is likely that experimental errors will be introduced when measuring the true density and compacted mass. This study investigates the effects of true density and compacted mass on Py. Materials having different particle deformation mechanisms are studied. Punch displacement and applied pressure are measured for each material at two compression speeds. For each material, three different true density and compacted mass values are utilized to evaluate their effect on Py. The calculated variation of Py reaches 20%. This study demonstrates that the errors in measuring true density and compacted mass have a greater effect on Py than the errors incurred from not correcting the displacement measurements due to punch elasticity.
Capture of stellar-mass compact objects by massive black holes in galactic cusps
A significant fraction of the stellar population in the cusp around central black holes of galaxies consists of compact remnants of evolved stars, such as white dwarfs, neutron stars and stellar mass black holes. We estimate the rate of capture of compact objects by massive central black holes, assuming most spiral galaxies have a central black hole of modest mass ( 10 6 M fi ), and a cuspy spheroid. It is likely that the total capture rate is dominated by nucleated spirals. We estimate the..
In astronomy, the term compact star (sometimes compact object) is used to refer collectively to white dwarfs, neutron stars, other exotic dense stars, and black holes. These objects are all small for their mass. The term compact star is often used when the exact nature of the star is not known, but evidence suggests that it is very massive and has small radius, thus implying one of the above-mentioned possibilities. A compact star which is not a black hole may be called a degenerate star.



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In this link it shows an electricity driven motor that operates a little bit differently than the average motor. There are magnets with a conductor on the outside of them rolling around another magnet in the center with a conductor on the outside surface. When electricity is applied, the outer magnets engage and start rolling. The conductor turns into an electro magnet and applies the force of a magnetic field [the direction is determined by witch way the electricity is flowing threw the motor +-or -+]. The field is making the outer objects attract to the inner object. Now lets say that the connecting surface in between the inner and outer objects has 10, 20, 100 or even 100,000,000,000,000 foot pounds of pressure in between, from the permanent magnet and the electro magnetic force applied.

An atom like a hydrogen atom has an exact pressure in which it will split and go nuclear. If the pressure in between
the two connecting surfaces reaches or exceeds this pressure the rollers will start smashing atoms .

Now the thermal conductive part. Lets take a stack of cd's
and write the mass, weight, density, conductivity, magnetically and any other properties that an element has.
Take the most magnetic, conductive, densest element and put it in the center , now on top and bottom of this first element put the rest of the elements going in both directions in order to their placement in density, mass, magnetically and conductivity. There will be non-conductive elements in between conductive elements. Once you got your stack of cd's in order, cut a bearing race on the outer surface and put the proper size ball for the race . So we have a mental picture or a model. The center cd will be the [+]electrical input to the motor and the top and bottom of the stack of cd's in the center is [-] electrical output. two [-] and one [+] .

So you take this model and apply the force of the magnetic, and electromagnetic force and the properties of the thermal conductive and static electrical conductivity.
When the outer magnets roll around the center magnet with enough applied force it will start smashing atoms, the out come of this is a huge burst of heat, emp, electricity and more which is fuel for the motor.

Anything that has any conductivity or magnetic attraction in the strong attraction zone around the motor will be gradually pulled into it . In the strong attraction zone there will be a large amount of static electricity from the movement of the masses in orbit around the motor .

Now the ground [-] side of the motor will short itself out to the outer perimeter of the strong attraction zone where the storage of static electricity is capacitated connecting the flow of electrons.

Now we have a static electrical thermal conductive nuclear driven generator that exerts gravity, magnetic attraction, x-ray radiation and compacts mass, and burns matter like a wood stove and doesn't make it magically disappear in a worm hole,or singularity which so far away from physics it should have never been considered .
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how would one of these form



A planet forms , a moon forms around a planet. [after big bang]
The planet slows down enough to let the moon pull in and attract to the planet and not be thrown out further in orbit

The motor will work off of mostly gravity at first and a small electrical magnetic assistance .

As it forms an outer ring of material around the motor in orbit [like Saturn's rings] the static electric charge starts and gets stronger.[movement of particles makes static electricity]

So this gos on for quit some time as the magnetic attraction starts to get stronger form in between the two masses .[the electro magnetic filed starts magnetizing the iron and other elements]

It starts the first stage of compacting the masses, the outer mass[roller] will be denser than the inner mass , because it makes more contact than the race does like a bearing.

Now this will go on for a wile until it reaches its first collapse in on it self [the braking point for elements at different pressure] right at the collapse it exhaust a huge amount of energy and it speeds up. [this will happen at various stages of the motor ,every time the motor collapses it gets stronger having more mass per square inch.

Now its starting to effect and attract other masses further out in the galaxy and the rate of material going into the motor is increasing at a gradual rate .

The matter coming in is being layered on both the masses making both the masses grow at a rate by how much matter is coming into motor.

At this time the density, lets say it is strong enough to survive nuclear reaction and the attraction force is grate enough to smash atoms.

It starts like a fouled gas motor spiting and sputtering as it smashes an atom hear and there, the roller or rollers starts spinning faster, with just a little more strength achieved it stays running off of nuclear and thermal power. with enough matter in the soler system to stay running for a good amount of time.

One thing I didn't say is the rollers will be on an offset spin and maby flipping over half way around the center mass, if the filed changes polarity like north ,south. [like the moon orbits us but not flipping over]

The side word spin of the roller at pacific contact points on the motor is how it smashes the atoms
between high friction points. These points of contact are the main points of electrical transfer between the roller and and center mass.
This will start slow but can grow fast.
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i'm not any sort of master physicist, however i don't think the mathematical equations and numbers are high enough to be used for any sort of high energy engine.
a. the strongest magnets in the world aren't strong enough to contain a nuclear or near nuclear explosion.
b. to make magnets powerful enough to contain something of high energy an electric charge has to be put into the magnet to increase it's capacity to repel high energy material or energy.
c. the level of energy required to sustain something close to an atomic explosion, or even mass moving at incredibly high speeds, is astounding. take the particle accelerators. granted they have no function of retaining energy but mathematical predictions of energy retained, once you've subtracted for the energy necessary to produce, would not yield a 'good enough' energy production ratio.

But it's good thinking, seems like a possible source of clean energy never-the-less.

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(REPLY DRAFT) the new black hole

Thanks.

Ok lets start by going backwards: A black hole is a massive object in space something billion times bigger than the mass of our sun. The out side of the black hole, (out side of the event horizon) there is an inwards spiraling hurricane of-

#1. there is every different kind of gas and gases that it can pull in from its furthest reaches of space and from the separation + combination of the elements in there different stages getting closer to the event horizon.


#2.there is matter that is taking the same journey ass above getting torn up
into different sizes as it flows threw the black hole reaching the event horizon.



#3.There is a layering of different speeds from the out side of the black hole to the inside to the event horizon.


#4. There is a range of different temperatures, colder at the out side of the black hole and getting hotter going into the event horizon.


#5.There is a gravitational force that is weaker at the out side of the black hole and gets stronger towards the event horizon .

#6. There is x ray radiation that is emitted from the entire black hole and is one of the ways we can see them to day.

#7. There is large amount of static electricity created threw the entire black hole from the friction in between the different layers that are traveling at different speeds and the matter and gas that are in them going past each other and the other layers.

#8.There is electro magnetic radiation emitted threw space from a black hole
and get stronger the closer you get to it.

#9. When theres electricity and conductive + magnetic elements moving past each other you magnetize the material and start an electro magnetic filed.

#10. Electro magnetic fields produce X RAY radiation, witch the temperature
range to produce X RAY radiation is 1 million degrees kelvin.

NOW lets say.

#1.That theres a mass of material the circumference of the event horizon and this is a thick disk of material.

#2. The center of The thick disk is the center of the black hole.

#3.On the outer rim of this disk there is a groove and that groove is a bearing race. Traveling in the race is a number of giant ball bearings.

#4.This disk is a pile of elements in order to there mass, magnetic,conductive,and other property's . Centering in between the top and bottom of the disk is the heaviest and most conductive.

#5.If I took this disk and put heat in it, it would thermally create electricity,
considering most of the elements that survive going threw to the event horizon would be the heaver elements and most of them are conductive.


#6.The massive ball bearings rolling around the thick disk are spinning rather than rolling. In demonstration, like how the moon orbits around the earth.
The moon doesn't roll on a vertical pull with the planet it rolls on an horizontal pull with the planet.


#7.In this disk there will be two or three layers of super conductive elements , these layers will act as the leads to pass the electricity from the electrical input of the ball bearing and to the electrical out put of the ball bearing.

#8. If you take a permanent magnet that has a cover of conductive material that is round, Hang it from a nail and touch the other side of the nail to the negative side of a battery . Tape a wire to the positive side of the battery , take the other end of the wire and touch it to the side of the magnet. THE MAGNET WILL SPIN .

#9.The ball bearing and the explanation in #8 have the same property's and work on the same principles
because of the elements the are built off of .

#10.because of this off set rotation of the ball bearings there is high friction points in the race, these points are probably shared with the electrical contacts.

#11.These high friction points are the focus points for enough pressure, friction and transfer of electricity to smash and release the energy from the atoms.

#12.Instead of all the matter going into the black hole vanishing into thin air like all the other theory's.
This theory turns all the matter it pulls in into energy , from thermal,static,magnetic,atomic,kinetic,radio and more.

#13.This proses abides by the rules of psychics and does not need a septate form of understanding to explain its self.

#14.The hole machine is spinning at an incredible speed , while the balls are spinning at an unbelievable speed to .(to be determined when math is finalized)

#15.This thick disk may holed an north and south side of the disk and if this is correct .The balls will flip over half around the thick dick and then flip back . This affect may explain why we see a shift at the center of a galaxy with a black hole.

Now we have an electric,thermal conductive , nuclear ,permanent+electro magnetic,static electrical,gravitational motor that emits X RAY's and compacts elements + turns matter into energy to run its self.

Ill let this digest for a little bit. any questions
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hrm, that is a little much to digest but i'll get to it.

i'll also ask a question: this device, does it require a black hole to function? or does the initial spin to get the energies running come from an external source of energy?

I'd also like the point out that the magnetic, thermo, nuclear, and so on, properties of this device would have to be in a complete equilibrium for such a device to function with out worry of failure. also, as the thing spins faster and faster more and more energy would be necessary to contain the equilibrium. I'll read your post in more detail and let you know what i come up with.

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I see this device to have a long slow at first life before it turns into a black hole.

Just fore example if our moon had the rite property's to attract to the planet and start rolling on the earth it would take a lot of time to compact the earth and place the elements in order to density,conductive,magnetic and so on.
It would take a lot of time to pull in enough material to be compacted,to make enough pressure+attraction between the two masses to smash atoms
before it starts smashing atoms it still works on most of the same principals.

1 gravity that gets stronger the denser it gets.
2 the magnetic filled attracts magnetic+conductive elements +iron
3 as the elements place them selves it starts conducting thermal electricity.
4 at this point the motion of the device is still assisted or cussed by the effect
of other masses in the affecting area suns,planets,soler system, black holes.
5 but still assisting its self with what energy it creates.
6 the more organized it gets the more efficient it becomes.

The way it builds its self and refines its self before smashing atoms is where the foundation of the equality is formed to sustain the next step.
(the amount of fuel going in to the black hole determines the speed for its size and strength)

ps the very top section of the post is the info section to answer questions on how thing work.
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I am referring to worm holes and a point of unity where matter disappears,where physics has to bend to explain. This is on the basic cues and effect system. In space the pattern as we see it is round balls of matter, planets,stars,moons. moons orbit around planets,planets orbit suns,suns orbit in a soler system.

In this vast space where all most every thing orbits around something.
It is only cues and effect to say theres an opposite.
Where moon role on there planets instead of orbiting around them.
This actually should be a common occurrence in space.





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