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BREAKING: FOUR RUNNERS CAUGHT ON POLICE BODY CAM IN FRONT OF MOSCOW IDAHO QUADRUPLE MURDER SCENE HOUSE AT 3:12 AM - NIGHT OF THE CRIME

 
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The Secret Room. 1122.
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I had noticed, on real estate rental photos, that one closet’s clothes hanging pole was too shallow to hang clothes on properly in that room but totally missed the latch and that there was a false back panel, a door, which can slide away to gain access to the secret room below.

At first I wondered if it was digitally manipulated in the video so I went back to check the real estate sites for 1122 and sure enough the sliding false door was right there in the ad for that room in the house!!!

Hidden in plain sight - I had missed it.

Kudos to the Youtuber and her team for this discovery and bravery to make it’s existence public!

Looks more like a natural cave than a tunnel to me. But I don’t know.

Someone down there probably wouldn’t hear a train run through the house overhead. People above in the house probably couldn’t hear screams in the dungeon either.
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Look at the stills from the drone footage.

IMO, there’s no way in hell LE doesn’t know about the “spare” room’s closet entry into the sub basement room, ( or tunnel), and that it has been updated with electric lighting.

Unplug the patio lights, reach around the corner siding, and plug in that dangling new looking cord.
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The indented line around his other wrist is visible, too.

Is there some good reason to put such tight handcuffs on him before the hearing? Must have been painful. I wonder how long he was made to suffer those cuffs.
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Cuffs and ankle shackles for the ride to courthouse.
I'm surprised they were removed at all, being that he is accused of mass murder. And, they may have been hinged cuffs, rather than chained, which aren't as flexible. Or, they had a transport cover installed, which protects the chain, and locks, from tampering and is also not flexible. They don't have to be tight to make those marks, but they do needed to be tight enough that a restrained person can't slip them.
They aren't intended for comfort.
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The indented line around his other wrist is visible, too.

Is there some good reason to put such tight handcuffs on him before the hearing? Must have been painful. I wonder how long he was made to suffer those cuffs.
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Cuffs and ankle shackles for the ride to courthouse.
I'm surprised they were removed at all, being that he is accused of mass murder. And, they may have been hinged cuffs, rather than chained, which aren't as flexible. Or, they had a transport cover installed, which protects the chain, and locks, from tampering and is also not flexible. They don't have to be tight to make those marks, but they do needed to be tight enough that a restrained person can't slip them.
They aren't intended for comfort.
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Thanks!

Are “transport covers” some type of zip ties? Over tight zip ties could make tourniquet like marks like that. Why use something akin to a dog collar for wrists instead of a device designed more akin to a dog harness for hands if safety is their only purpose?
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Can’t see well enough on my iPad but it looks like they may be wearing backpacks.
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Kind of off topic but Gangstalkers do that, walk/run/ride past a target while wearing a backpack. They have BioApi readers or other military tech hidden in the backpack. Soon TPTB wil demand everyone to have chips inserted to be able to store personal info along with health status and vitals instantly read. But there will be other nefarious things they can do but will not acknowledge it. This will come about due to a deadly plague (COVID). If someone refuses, then no leaving the home for shopping, work, school, movies, mall, restaurants, etc. This will be the "mark". God's people must refuse.
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I must point out that this is NOT the room under Xana’s bedroom. This is the first floor bedroom on the other side of the house.

The blood seeping down is not from Xana’s room but from the staircase leading up to the living room. Seeing that is one of the reasons I don’t think the victims were where it is said they were before they ended up where they were reported to have ended up once they were dead. Someone was bleeding out on the staircase.

I’m guessing it didn’t occur to the cleaners of the staircase to check for seepage from there into the room below.
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We are told, and it is officially written, someone originally in their second floor bedroom, peeked around her door to see a black clad man with bushy eyebrows heading out of the house towards the kitchen sliding door and went into a frozen shock phase although she thought this person was just a loud party guy.

Did she retreat into her room or go down to the bedroom on the first floor with the blood seeping down the wall? Unlikely she went to the “unused” spare room under Xana’s room with the golf clubs, other storage items, ETC. , imo.

So, imo, if she was in the house at all that night, her story falls apart regardless of what bedroom she was originally in or ended up in.

There must have been pooling blood on the staircase down to the first floor, at least. She had to use those stairs to get there from the second floor. She couldn’t have avoided seeing, sliding on, or smelling blood if she went to the room on the first floor.

If she stayed in the second floor bedroom it would have been impossible to miss the blood on the stairs going down to the first floor, which it would be impossible not to look towards, imo, due to the cold air rushing up the stairs from the front door being wide open for hours after her original room must have been too hot all night because the heat had been turned way up by murderers.

Whether there was one or two sorority sisters lying in bed on that first floor bedroom all eyes would have noticed the movement of blood seeping down from the floor above because eyes are attracted to movement and blood moves and usually isn’t there. Regardless of when they knew - they knew. If they were there.
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Can’t see well enough on my iPad but it looks like they may be wearing backpacks.
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Kind of off topic but Gangstalkers do that, walk/run/ride past a target while wearing a backpack. They have BioApi readers or other military tech hidden in the backpack. Soon TPTB wil demand everyone to have chips inserted to be able to store personal info along with health status and vitals instantly read. But there will be other nefarious things they can do but will not acknowledge it. This will come about due to a deadly plague (COVID). If someone refuses, then no leaving the home for shopping, work, school, movies, mall, restaurants, etc. This will be the "mark". God's people must refuse.
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Thanks for your input! I have not looked into such things as “gangstalkers”, “BioApi”, military tech, etc. but I can understand, if they exist, backpacks would be useful for portability.

Also your post reminds me of something that happened in the grub truck video that may be more significant that I thought.

Remember the guy in the jersey who hugged Maddie after flagging her down when she first arrived? The girl who approached him after that, and kissed him, was wearing a red backpack. I doubt it was loaded with schoolbooks at that time and place.

Of course there are smaller tracking devices which could have been used that night. I’m thinking of maybe an Apple AirTag slipped into Maddie’s borrowed jacket - the jacket later found draped over the fire hydrant at the very spot LE issued tickets to the frat boys at the head of the line coming down from the 1122 area that night. The jacket that two LE, who looked like Fry and Roger, were photographed lifting up and back onto the fire hydrant before leaving it there and driving off.
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I have seen no evidence that they had anything to do with the murders.

There were more people released yesterday than appear on the tweeter’s list -which you can see at the Lewis County site. The one that caught my attention was a name that said some sus things on the grub truck live stream comments that night. Might be nothing.
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I must point out that this is NOT the room under Xana’s bedroom. This is the first floor bedroom on the other side of the house.

The blood seeping down is not from Xana’s room but from the staircase leading up to the living room. Seeing that is one of the reasons I don’t think the victims were where it is said they were before they ended up where they were reported to have ended up once they were dead. Someone was bleeding out on the staircase.

I’m guessing it didn’t occur to the cleaners of the staircase to check for seepage from there into the room below.
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Opps. I’ve been checking other pictures of that room. The “seepage of blood” is actually shadows from a pipe. Lol, sorry about that!
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When stalking groceries in Moscow be sure to wear your seatbelt or God help you.
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When stalking groceries in Moscow be sure to wear your seatbelt or God help you.
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The indented line around his other wrist is visible, too.

Is there some good reason to put such tight handcuffs on him before the hearing? Must have been painful. I wonder how long he was made to suffer those cuffs.
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Cuffs and ankle shackles for the ride to courthouse.
I'm surprised they were removed at all, being that he is accused of mass murder. And, they may have been hinged cuffs, rather than chained, which aren't as flexible. Or, they had a transport cover installed, which protects the chain, and locks, from tampering and is also not flexible. They don't have to be tight to make those marks, but they do needed to be tight enough that a restrained person can't slip them.
They aren't intended for comfort.
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Thanks!

Are “transport covers” some type of zip ties? Over tight zip ties could make tourniquet like marks like that. Why use something akin to a dog collar for wrists instead of a device designed more akin to a dog harness for hands if safety is their only purpose?
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Transport covers are a plastic or metal box that locks over the chain and locks. Prevents twisting the chain, which can actually be broken if out can be twister to "lock up" and the heels of palms pressed together to leverage against the twisted chain. It's just an extra later of security.
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They aren't comfortable.
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Jail is not designed to be fun. If you notice, the defendant looks fatigued. Being uncomfortable and constantly fatigued is a psychological deterrent to escape attempts and anything else criminals might think of doing while detained. And, they think of pretty much anything they can get away with. If you can think of it, they've already tried to do it.
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Jail is not designed to be fun. If you notice, the defendant looks fatigued. Being uncomfortable and constantly fatigued is a psychological deterrent to escape attempts and anything else criminals might think of doing while detained. And, they think of pretty much anything they can get away with. If you can think of it, they've already tried to do it.
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Thank you.


Too tight is not a good look on the world stage. Nor are wrinkled up shirts.

The civilized world is watching you, Moscow. Get it right.

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Like other pieces of police equipment, there is a right and a wrong way to handcuff. Handcuffs must be secured in a manner tight enough to secure the subject, yet not so tight as to cut off circulation or cause injury. If a handcuff is placed too loosely, the subject may slip their hands out of them. A good rule of thumb is to allow enough space to get a fingertip between the wrist and the cuff. If the handcuffs are too tight, loosen them before double locking them.
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