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BREAKING: FOUR RUNNERS CAUGHT ON POLICE BODY CAM IN FRONT OF MOSCOW IDAHO QUADRUPLE MURDER SCENE HOUSE AT 3:12 AM - NIGHT OF THE CRIME

 
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Meet their “source”.



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I skipped over the brouhaha about the psychic tarot reader’s claims - and raised an eyebrow about claims of rodeo clowns in town that weekend for a funeral with relations to an LE on the case and a particular Land rover salesman, but is it all just imaginary bs?

Kind of creeped out to find that the alledgedly gay professor the tarot card reader accused wrote a book about gay rodeos.

gasp
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LOL! I love that stuff dripping from her nose.
"Here's your sign!"
That should be mandatory for some people.
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The nice thing about digital televisions is that we can remove channels.
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The nice thing about digital televisions is that we can remove channels.
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Yea, I don’t even have a tv or any sm accounts so I mainly just sift thru twitter reposts, YouTube, and google searches for case info.

I see people complain about twitter ads but even though I don’t have an account there I never see ads.
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Jail is not designed to be fun. If you notice, the defendant looks fatigued. Being uncomfortable and constantly fatigued is a psychological deterrent to escape attempts and anything else criminals might think of doing while detained. And, they think of pretty much anything they can get away with. If you can think of it, they've already tried to do it.
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Thank you.


Too tight is not a good look on the world stage. Nor are wrinkled up shirts.

The civilized world is watching you, Moscow. Get it right.

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Proper Fit

Like other pieces of police equipment, there is a right and a wrong way to handcuff. Handcuffs must be secured in a manner tight enough to secure the subject, yet not so tight as to cut off circulation or cause injury. If a handcuff is placed too loosely, the subject may slip their hands out of them. A good rule of thumb is to allow enough space to get a fingertip between the wrist and the cuff. If the handcuffs are too tight, loosen them before double locking them.
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I doubt they were overly tight. Jail is detention, not punishment, though it may feel like punishment to normal people.
Cuffs are hardened steel and close together, "one size fits most", so that you'd have to hold your hands together to relieve pressure on wrists, which tires your shoulders. In a relaxed position for any length of time, like a ride to court, they will leave those marks. Jailers are just doing their job, usually, and not trying to inflict unwarranted injury on detainees, because that can lead to problems for the jailer.
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Jail is not designed to be fun. If you notice, the defendant looks fatigued. Being uncomfortable and constantly fatigued is a psychological deterrent to escape attempts and anything else criminals might think of doing while detained. And, they think of pretty much anything they can get away with. If you can think of it, they've already tried to do it.
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Thank you.


Too tight is not a good look on the world stage. Nor are wrinkled up shirts.

The civilized world is watching you, Moscow. Get it right.

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Like other pieces of police equipment, there is a right and a wrong way to handcuff. Handcuffs must be secured in a manner tight enough to secure the subject, yet not so tight as to cut off circulation or cause injury. If a handcuff is placed too loosely, the subject may slip their hands out of them. A good rule of thumb is to allow enough space to get a fingertip between the wrist and the cuff. If the handcuffs are too tight, loosen them before double locking them.
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I doubt they were overly tight. Jail is detention, not punishment, though it may feel like punishment to normal people.
Cuffs are hardened steel and close together, "one size fits most", so that you'd have to hold your hands together to relieve pressure on wrists, which tires your shoulders. In a relaxed position for any length of time, like a ride to court, they will leave those marks. Jailers are just doing their job, usually, and not trying to inflict unwarranted injury on detainees, because that can lead to problems for the jailer.
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I don’t know. Looks like something out of the dark ages which could use a design update to me.
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I wonder if he was the one ticketing the frat boys in the band field that was wearing gloves who’s thumb fabric was decorated with the word “pig” as the design feature.
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After rewatching the band field police cam video I see that the “pig” word decoration on the officer’s gloves covered the finger areas too.

Also noticed that “eyebrows” student in band field video scrolling through his phone photos, with a smile on his face, tilted his phone toward the officer when he got to the image of what appeared to be a woman’s face covered in what looked like plastic tape. The woman on his phone resembled Maddie. WTF?
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Glad someone else caught that phone view.
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I don’t know this twitterer. She has a theory. Who knows?





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Intriguing thread. I have no idea if it’s real or more fake news.
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I don’t know, but I suspect, knowledgeable sources of these sources carefully choose people to leak to that they can easily debunk later. Not that I support people like canna and Gigi but sometimes liars can reveal real clues.



If what she’s pointing out is real the police cams show the headlights/flashlights on the ground of 1122 @ around 3:00:30 and the mechanical squeal sounds around 12 minutes later. The exact times would depend on whether they are from the same police cams because the two cams were not synced up time wise.

Anyone else notice, on google earth shots, the fancy dark vehicle parked in the driveway of the UI president’s mansion? The mansion is just the other side of the water tower.

IH said he saw such a vehicle that night parked on the corner of King and Queen - a little bit closer to 1122 than the mansion. Significant? Who knows?
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She has another theory …





That would be a significant plot twist. Would it, if true, explain why Moscow is so quite?

I don’t know anything about cocaine but Lana of T&T said the white powder he was caught with was bee pollen. Bee pollen is not white.
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BK looks nothing at all like his father but has similarities, in bone structure, to Dana Smithers. This tweet, if correct, is of course none of our business but it would kind of make sense of some things that have puzzled me in regards to this case.

I read an article in which BK talked with a neighbor on how he had just submitted his DNA to find out his ancestry. I had chalked it up as being submitted to one of those companies which didn’t share with LE and that is why LE went through all the rigmarole and $$$’s to get BK’s DNA.

But mainly, and hugely, if he was adopted, and LE discovered this, it would explain why the DNA is being thrown out as evidence, ETC. …

I still don’t know who this tweeter is but some of my googling around suggests to me she may have major inside info, in general. She may be the nine hundred and first to make similar claims of position but it only takes one to be right. She may be that one. I am very hopeful.

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YouTuber the hard truth recently posted another epic video.

“Phone Hack Got Kopacka Killed? Opie phone pings cow manure.”
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Nothing to see here …
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Nothing to see here …
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Driver - Eric Gower. Works for UI. Allegedly his wife works as an administrative specialist for Moscow PD in charge of stuff like FOIA’s.

JLR Investigates somehow got an unredacted version of the case file and featured M&K’s last driver in a video. I’m guessing it came from Pa., lol.

Whatever can be said of JLR he gets stuff even when he doesn’t get it. Which is good enough.

Things are starting to make sense…

Fry’s probably going to turn from beet red to purple.

#EvilMayberry
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Nothing to see here …
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Driver - Eric Gower. Works for UI. Allegedly his wife works as an administrative specialist for Moscow PD in charge of stuff like FOIA’s.

JLR Investigates somehow got an unredacted version of the case file and featured M&K’s last driver in a video. I’m guessing it came from Pa., lol.

Whatever can be said of JLR he gets stuff even when he doesn’t get it. Which is good enough.

Things are starting to make sense…

Fry’s probably going to turn from beet red to purple.

#EvilMayberry
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Yes the private party driver is the real killer
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“ He said: 'I just sort of pulled in front of their driveway. I didn't pull right into the parking lot. I usually try not to do that because that's an easy way to get robbed.

'I try to stay in positions where I can go either direction so I can get away if I have to – it's never happened but you hear about these things.' “



“ In fact, he said: 'I didn't watch them go all the way in. There were the two of them, it's a relatively safe place. It's not something I would usually sit and watch.”
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“ 'When I saw the news on Monday it occurred to me, I was in that neighborhood but that was before they'd released any names.

'As soon as I knew for sure it was the girls I went to the police.' “

Right.
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“ 'Most of us have very little faith in the MPD. We can't tell if we are watching qualified investigators who have a handle of the situation or if they are completely at a loss and grasping for straws.' “

* as an aside …

Wonder who he and his wife are affiliated with? The undercover cop in the band field cam who was wearing gloves decorated all over with the word “pig”?
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“He was, he said, swiftly eliminated from enquiries having provided officers with a wealth of digital data and the timed receipt from the Taco Bell to which he went after dropping the girls back home.'

*Speculation alert* I’d put my two bits on something like this being said …

Yes sir, officer Payne, that’s spelled G-r-o-w-e-r.
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Put all the exclusive articles the driver volunteered for together - He knew K, M, and X and knew K and M worked at the Mad Greek.

He has a dog, maybe a Goldendoodle genetically related to the dogs owned by Officer “pig” gloves, J and K, JV’s sister, the CC member dog breeder, and a few others I can’t recall off hand.

Drove a big dark luxury car at the Grub Truck I saw reflected in the window, like the one parked in the UI president’s driveway on google. Sounds like the vehicle IH described parked at King and Queen that he said was unusual. Even Joe Vidot mentioned a car like that at the Grub Truck to the police - and critiqued LE because they didn’t seem as interested as he was in it.

On the ‘too much info’ the driver talks about - they eat pricey Mac and cheese while he eats Taco Bell. Students usually don’t pay too much attention to lowly drivers like him, drops them off at the end of the driveway and takes off so he doesn’t get robbed, etc., etc., etc.
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Maybe I’m just not sentimental enough to understand the purpose of keeping around old Taco Bell receipts …
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Nothing to see here …
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Apparently has sent numerous tips in on the case.

Allegedly claims to have tipped off police about BK’s car early-despite it being the wrong model year with the wrong state’s plates at the time.

Allegedly claimed to live 1200 feet from BK’s front door.

“I’m hoping they have an iron clad case. I desperately, desperately hope they have this locked down”. I bet he does!

Allegedly states the police never contacted him or sought him out after the murders.

Seems to have spent almost 12 years in Pa.
Seems to be an Associate Director at UI, too.
Seems to share a house with a woman who’s hyphenated last name reverses her family name with his last name in MOSCOW not 1200 feet from Steptoe in Pullman.

His Instagram - vaporized
His twitter - on private

Who uses a luxury car to pick up and drive home drunk students all day and night, as he states in the article, that’s what he does most of the time.
Does that make sense to anybody?

Where was the president of UI the night of the crime? Am I the only one to wonder that? What is his alibi?
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Maybe I’m just not sentimental enough to understand the purpose of keeping around old Taco Bell receipts …
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Taco Bell, in Moscow closes at 2 am on Saturdays. Wow that’s really cutting it close for getting that alibi receipt. I suppose his voluminous, unasked for, data delivery to the police would show if he called in his order ahead to be on the safe side.

Was he running late? Might explain why he dumped the girls off at the end of their dark driveway, where he might get robbed, and why he immediately took off without bothering to wait for them to get in the house safely like a bad high school boyfriend would - the kind dads kick out of their daughter’s life.

Might explain why he yelled, like some yell at dogs, for Kaylee and Maddie to “Hurry up, get in” at the Grub Truck. That behavior of his has always bothered me. I excused it because I thought Kaylee may have texted him they felt the ambush occurring and requested he come quickly.

But no, everything was hunky dory with the girls, according to him, he was on a tight schedule. Now we know.





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