BREAKING: FOUR RUNNERS CAUGHT ON POLICE BODY CAM IN FRONT OF MOSCOW IDAHO QUADRUPLE MURDER SCENE HOUSE AT 3:12 AM - NIGHT OF THE CRIME

Overlay of white Elantra onto the white car taken in the body cam footage.
Looks like a match.

Watching this vain tan hat guy’s BS filled video it’s hard not for me to think the thing that bothered him most about the murders was that someone gouged out part of his right eyebrow.

Re-examining the body cam footage. Enhanced audio. Enhanced car on road behind murder house.

Corner Club and Main Street Moscow and the walk to the Grub Truck.

Why does he keep saying he’s cold and shivering and that’s why he’s so bundled up?

He was standing outside at the Grub Truck on as just a cold a day for a long time with his ears uncovered. Is he hiding wounds beyond the gouged off area on his right eyebrow? Did he think camera filters would mask that? He was also bundled up when he did a BS zoom tic tok video with some guy while he was sitting indoors. Is he feverish from wound infections or something?

Why was he totally cool with his so called “friends” he says were totally drunk but thinks it’s ok to say “Eww” at Maddie and call M and K zombies? He wasn’t laughing at his friends he says were really drunk. No one else was laughing.

He says his “friends” are scared to walk out to their cars, well yea, they reached out to him. Probably wondering what the hell he’s dragged them into out there into his alibis video light, etc. They probably don’t have curtained class b rv’s, like he seems to be sitting in, laying low, either.

How does he know the FBI is “on it”. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s monitoring everyone involved in this case. Wouldn’t surprise me if he is setting his boys and girls clubs up, either, in hopes of coming out of this himself smelling like a rose. I can’t see any reason to believe a word he says, quite frankly. Nothing rings true to me.

For someone who seems so fussy about appearances it’s weird that he admonishes us to “stop spreading rumors” at exactly the time those stains, which look like wound dressing seepages, show up best on the chest area of his pure looking white fluffy garment.

Honestly, it does look like a professional hit more than some guy seeing a cute girl and when she will not give him attention he kills her and her friends. Someone wanted to send a message to someone else in the worst way possible.

Weird guy, but I doubt he has anything to do with the murders.

Overweight older guy trying to hang with much younger college girls. There is a point in grub truck vid where white coat girl gets a bit happy after ordering food she comes over and hugs long hair guy excitedly and joe moves in slightly thinking he gets a hug too, but NO... doh! Denied

Heard a whole nuther angle this morning involving the Christ Church and Doug Wilson the pastor and how they basically run everything in that town including the cops.
Beware that rabbit hole goes deep. Hours deep.

I at first wondered about that but have since learned tan hat guy’s Christian affiliations seemed otherwise aligned - they did in the past at least, based on his early social media posts.

Fundamentalist Christian “leadership” youth training type stuff, for sure, but don’t know where he worships these days. If he does at all. Could be some common cause adjacent stuff with Christ Church in the mix but so far it doesn’t look like that to me.

Obviously my view is biased due to my own personal developing hypothesis and that is now the theme of my thread.

I think this was a one man project planned out meticulously for at least 6 years - yes before the chosen victims were even in town, and leadership of it would probably not be shared with another sect leader.

Please start your own thread. Thank you.

I see no evidence that Bridget and long hair guy are more friends than like minded acquaintance accomplices of tan hat guy. Something else is going on with them being present under his, not their, alibis video Grub Truck light and with tan hat guy calling them friends. I think they are being used - set up, and that, by now, this is starting to dawn on them they may be his patsies. Same deal for the frat boys, imo.

Same voice from the above enhanced yell on the body cam audio and the one below with K talking with hoody guy on their way to the Grub Truck.

It’s clearly K. :(

https://twitter.com/_/status/1604391233652228096

Yes, it’s a different Elantra - nonetheless Inan Harsh WAS at the Grub Truck as can be seen in the video that night.

I strongly suspect the murder mastermind told his teams of patsies to drive pre-2014 Elantras as they were so common and would be harder to track. Elantra’s are probably being ditched by framed patsies all over the place. Harsh isn’t even special in that regard. Poor fool.

Also strongly suspect the murderer kingpin tipped off the FBI, with a few nuggets of his special insider evidence, that they should look for Elantra’s.


Patsies probably freaking out with those 20K some odd Elantra clues being sifted through by the FBI. Mastermind murderer’s burner phones are probably ringing off the hook.

Poor little sensitive him. His “friends” are so worried about him because they know his self-proclaimed toxic trait is taking on the burden of all that goes on around him. Right.

So what reason could our networking ringmaster murderer have for inviting his reclusive poncho sporting homey, I.H, a bit part in the story under his alibis Grub Truck limelight with whispers of giving him a shot at 15 minutes of fame?

Seems our murderer needed to throw off the murder timeline. He wanted fake testimony of a scream from the murder house at around 4:00 am.

*correction* I.H. is not poncho guy. Sorry about that error.

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Accumulating easily discredited lowlifes to his network of shady bystanders and blood brothers and sisters, trapped patsies, could seem boring but efficient to our murderer, couldn’t it? They could come in handy for trouble shooting later, after all, like for manipulating the murder time line on the fly. Very important.

I speculate he despises them as much as he despises his murder victims. Easier for a snapped religious fundamentalist to justify himself into believing he’s some kind of social justice warrior working for God and community good as he kills in cold blood. Maybe make it easier to look at himself in the mirror and avoid looking at that gouged out area of his right eyebrow as he applies new dressings to his chest wounds or something. Who knows?

Anyway, where are the web sleuths and journalists on this time line manipulating patsie? I’m not seeing anything relevant yet.


Stolen gun, stolen drugs, robbery, and assault came up immediately in a google search for this murderer’s homey.

[link to dnews.com (secure)]

*edited only to take out “poncho guy”. Poncho guy is not the murder’s homey, As I explain later in this thread.

Last Edited by sos on 12/24/2022 12:14 PM

Anyone else here catch the syncing up of phones scene near the end of the full length cast of thousands patsie Grub Truck video?

What are they gleefully watching? Dark, but something’s moving. Trail cams? Cams in the house? I can’t tell on my little old iPad.

*correction* poncho guy in the Grub Truck video IS NOT I.H. Wrong accent.

On Christmas Eve, going back to when we kids were too young read, Mom would read us Hans Christian Anderson’s “The Little Match Girl”. I would always cry and that story haunts me to this day.

He might not be Hans Christian Andersen but this youtuber’s video hits me as hard as “The Little Match Girl” did when I was a toddler. His insight on the topic of this video almost overwhelms me in a tidal wave of truth ringing true. Now I’m haunted. (Although I disagree that the murderer himself was a student his speculation on that takes nothing away from his video’s impact on me.)

“What’s Going On Behind The Curtain?” By True Crime Rocket Science

Forensics back at the crime scene. Hope they find more of tan hat guy’s missing hunk of eyebrow, etc.

give us a minute mark then

4:00:00

Once again, as seen on the full length Grub Truck video, tan hat guy and his “friends” B and long hair guy, who he was with at the Corner Club, arrive from different directions at different times.

The three of them leave the Grub Bus together. Then a white compact car approaches from down the street(south?). A long dark truck(?) with several amber lights on it’s end, (looks like it has a bicycle or motorcycle rack added to it with lights), and a white light on it’s side, has it’s brakes on in a spot right across the street from the Grub Bus. Once the compact white car passes, the truck backs out and follows the small white car(Elantra?) going in the direction of the Corner club. (North?)

This sequence of events is proceeded by the truck’s lights going on, probably by key fob, just as the three of them walk away. This can all be seen in the windows facing the Grub Truck - not directly.

@around 4:06:44 you can see both the white car and the truck in the darkest window facing the Grub Truck food windows in the sequence of events - which is about 13 minutes after M and K leave.

@3:38:44 on the complete grub bus monkey business video the longish truck I mentioned, (not to be confused with the monstrously big loud truck), pulls into the parking space just across the street from the grub bus. (Easily seen reflected in the dark window)

@3:39:07 The truck’s back amber lights go out.

@3:39:08 The producer and star of the evil production, tan hat guy himself, appears under his alibis video light, stage left, and approaches his so called friends who walked in, a few minutes earlier, from down the street where they last were with Joe at the Corner Club, to take their places stage right.

I probably will do a I.H. search of the grub truck video to see if the big guy called him onto his stage for some brushing up against the victims DNA like he did with his other patsies who would have never made the A list for entrance to the party glass house.

@4:06:57

On closer inspection the white lights on the side of truck are just streetlight reflections.

I can’t tell if the amber lighted bike/motorcycle rack has anything on it from my old iPad view. What reason is there for the rack to be mounted so far from the truck body? Must make it harder to park. What’s the up side?

The truck’s headlights have some sort of visors over them that reflect downward. I’ve never seen anything like that on a truck before. What is their purpose? Anyone know? Why block the light from going upward?

Never thought I’d have to google “headlight visors” but since nobody in the know answered my question, and they are such a weird peculiarity, I figured they could hold some kind of murderer profiling clue, so I did.

Apparently people who buy them online have only a few things to say about them - complaints that they are cheaply made, need engineering to fit on anything, advise to put down a blanket or the parts fall all over the ground and get lost, and one rare reviewer that calls them cool. Nothing about any practical reason to buy them or if they do anything.

I guess they are supposed to be some sort of secret handshake type bling only for in-the-know car stylist aficionados or something. If you have to ask consider yourself a pleb.

However, putting these seemingly stupid headlight visors together and getting them to stay where they are supposed to may be enough to be some frustrated someone’s last straw before going bananas into a psycho killer murder spree. Well, maybe not but having them on your truck might be a distinctive clue for those on the lookout for a getaway vehicle of someone who has already snapped. ;)

It was below freezing cold on the night of the murders with winter approaching.

That motorcycle carrier on that truck looks pretty heavy duty but wouldn’t winter salted roads rust it out? Doesn’t look like it’s loaded, either. Why leave it attached so late in the season?

Why drive into town for a night at the Corner Club and the Grub Truck with a lighted long bulky carrier still hitched up? Doesn’t make sense to me - unless it was needed for something on that specific date. I doubt it is something that would seem an impressive bling thing, like the headlight visors might, for instance.

Weird. Without knowing more - it’s being there is counterproductive. There must be more.

Watched this video again on YouTube (because clearer picture seen there than on my old iPad with a cracked screen).

Anyone else see, @7:26, those long scratches on the left side of his face where the beard hair is gone and lighter skin color, or makeup, can be seen where the hair used to be?

Last Edited by sos on 12/22/2022 02:32 PM