Guns ... WATCH: Dr. Lott Testifies Before House Committee (Gives 3 Basic Facts Everyone Should Know!)

Over 92% of violent crimes in America do not involve firearms. The U.S. Department of
Justice’s National Crime Victimization Survey for 2020 shows 4,558,150 rapes, robberies, and
aggravated assaults, and the FBI reports 21,570 murders. Of those, firearms were involved
in 350,460 rapes, robberies, and aggravated assaults. Adding those numbers up, 7.9% of violent
crimes were committed with firearms.
While the US media doesn’t give much, if any, coverage to mass public shootings in other countries, mass public shootings per capita are relatively low in the United States compared to the rest of the world. Over the 20 years from 1998 to 2017, the US had less than 1.13% of the world’s share of mass public shooters and 1.77% of its mass public shooting murders. That’s much less than the US’s 4.6% share of the world population. Since 2000, there have been nine mass public school shootings in the US. Germany had only three over that period and Finland had only one, but the United States has four times the population of Germany and sixty times that of Finland. Russia has had four such massacres, but we have 2.3 times its population. On a per capita basis, all three countries have a similar or higher rate compared to that of the US.
Like many other mass public shooters, the Buffalo shooter targeted defenseless people. He even wrote in his manifesto: “Attacking in a weapon-restricted area may decrease the chance of civilian backlash. Schools, courts, or areas where CCW are outlawed or prohibited may be good areas of attack. Areas where CCW permits are low may also fit in this category. Areas with strict gun laws are also great places of attack.” The national media refuses to report other explicit statements by attackers explaining why they pick the targets they do. Nor do they report the fact that 94% of mass public shootings occur in places where civilians are banned from having firearms.

According to their own statistics the covid vaccine is 40 times more deadly than assault rifles.

Guns bad! Bad! Bad! Bad!

#4 - There are at least 50,000 defensive uses of firearms in the US every year (that estimate from a openly anti-gun researcher) CDC survey Data suggests its more like 200,000-300,000 defensive uses. Banning guns from law abiding citizens means at least 50,000 MORE rape, mugging and murder victims a year.

#5 You cannot honestly compare rates of violence in different nations directly as its not a apples to apples comparison. A nation with more 18-30 year old men will have more violent crime in general. More culturally homogeneous societies have lower rates of crime. Demographics matter and must be controlled for in making any comparisons.

#6 The second amendment is an amalgamation of two separate ideas, arising out of two separate conventions, and neither was meant to modify the other. ( [link to guncite.com (secure)]

#7 Criminals don't follow laws. Assaulting other human beings with any weapon is already illegal - and this does not stop assaults. Trying to control what weapon is used is equivalent to trying to control what drugs people consume. Anyone intent on procuring a specific item will be able to do so, and if for some reason they are unable to do so, they will simply use the next best substitute. The behavior you wish to deter with such laws will by and large be unaffected, while there will be huge effects ( see #4) on the people using those items responsibly

#8 Most Gun crime occurs in a few counties - and in fact usually within specific neighborhoods within those counties. These are basically local wars between gangs.

Last Edited by Weisshaupt on 12/28/2022 09:29 AM

Why bidet cant outlaw murder ? Or violent assault ?
If people knew it's illegal mabe would stop , no?

It doesn't matter. Guns are one of the divisive topics.

At this moment, every single gun owner in America could be the most legal, most responsible, safest gun owner known to man. It won't matter, because the left is sunk too deep into anti-gun rhetoric. In order to keep their jobs, every Democratic party affiliated politician has no choice but to speak out against guns and gun violence. There are reasons the left leading media don't cover gun violence in other countries, unless it's really, really scary.

Likewise, every politician affiliated with the right-- whether it's Republican, libertarian, trumpist, etc. Is so steeped in anti-abortion, anti-LGBTQ,etc (Even though something like 60% of them are closet moderates) did they can't stop talking out about it lest they lose their own jobs.

And let's not forget how the right leaning media never covers health care or any morality beyond American Christian.

Come to think of it, how many moderate news services are left? I think it's clear that if any still existed, their viewership or readership have dropped to almost nothing.

On the face of it, the United States government has become a staring and popularity contest across "the aisle". Given how tightly in lock step the media is with the divisive politics, there has to be something much more sinister going on.

IMO, there's only one solution left and it's dangerous to talk about, and it's very likely that before the smoke clears billionaires will step in to "help" and we'll end up with governance by the people, for the corporate interests".

Facts don’t sway congress….money does

I saw we line up everyone who likes guns on one side and everyone who doesn't on the other and fight it out.

Also there is no "moderate" position between these two factions. One either believes individuals have intrinsic natural rights, or one believes that the community defines what privileges an individual has, being able to rescind them as the "community" dictates.

You either have rights, or you don't.

Last Edited by Weisshaupt on 12/28/2022 09:24 AM

There we are, then.

Thank you for the confirmation of my basic thesis.

For whatever it's worth, between the folks on the left and the folks on the right I know, it's near 100% gun ownership. I think you're going to find a lot of liberals in your "gun owner lineup" standing shoulder to shoulder with you.

... But of course that can't be true. You've been told otherwise.

If your thesis was correct, you could present a middle ground that isn't the binary I presented, but which is still true. One either submits to the will of others by force, or one lives with others in peace and voluntary cooperation.
The collectivist thinks might makes right, the individualist wishes to live and let live.

The leftists holding guns will believe that THEY should be allowed to have guns but that others should not. They wish to place themselves as the lord and judge of how others live, and that is why they want a gun - to point it at another human being and force their submission. They is why they own guns and support laws that would take them away - because they think the government will do this for them, and they of course, have no intention of following the rules and trust that the government would never enforce them. Just as they don't enforce laws against BLM rioters, or say Hillary Clinton, or Hunter Biden.

In the end the leftists have guns, but lack any courage to use them. Leftism is politically expressed narcissism. The only thing these people care about is themselves, and they won't risk their lives trying to enforce their values on others. They would refuse to show up in either line. Stand without a gun you die. Stand with a gun and start shooting other gun owners and you die.
. Freedom loving people have only to call their bluff. They simply won't have the number of enforcers needed willing to die to impose what they want to impose on others.

Last Edited by Weisshaupt on 12/28/2022 11:01 AM

Well they should address how 5% of the population, black males 15-45, account for 80% of violent crime

If they continue to avoid that subject, we will take matters into our own hands, and anyone who tries to deny my right to self preservation, will be considered a threat to my survival and i will act accordingly

Lol, homeland security and terrorist are synonymous.

1 star for not just saying what they are

Let's boil this down.



You are welcome to test that thesis at your own leisure.

Have a great holiday.

Let me tell you when my eyes were opened, ..

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The Luby's shooting, also known as the Luby's massacre, was a mass shooting that took place on October 16, 1991, at a Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen, Texas, United States. The perpetrator, George Hennard, drove his pickup truck through the front window of the restaurant. He quickly shot and killed 23 people, and wounded 27 others. He had a brief shootout with police, and refused their orders to surrender, fatally shooting himself.

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A woman who survived Suzanna Hupp, who witnessed the slaughter of both of her parents by that madman testified that she would have liked to have had her gun, but said, "it was a hundred feet away in my car" (she had feared that if she was caught carrying it she might lose her chiropractor's license).

SOFT TARGET once again.


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"Allow me to shed some light the problem we have here in the US. I remember as a kid (back in the 1980s) that EVERYBODY had guns. We used to carry them in our trucks on racks (and that included the "evil" AR-15 or similar paramilitary weapons), you could even buy actual machine guns. We didn't have anything on the scale of mass shootings that we have now.

What happened?

I'll tell you what happened. We Americans traded virtue for vice and glorified violence, gangs, and "might makes right" attitude in our entertainment and media. Hollywood is as much to blame for this as the "do your own thing" mentality that is rampant in our schools, colleges and universities. You Brits seem to still have a sense of decency and civility that we here in the states have totally lost.

It isn't your gun control that makes you a safer country, it is your CULTURE"

This is a post from a reader on the Daily Mail just now responding to an article there



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Perhaps it is time to purge all of the communist from the halls of congress and all areas here in the USA. THESE Communist want our guns taken by any means necessary.


The Alien Registration Act of 1940 (Smith Act), 76th United States Congress, 3d session, ch. 439, 54 Stat. 670, 18 U.S.C. § 2385 is a United States federal statute enacted June 29, 1940, that set criminal penalties for advocating the overthrow of the U.S. government and required all non-citizen adult residents to register with the government.
Approximately 215 people were indicted under the legislation, including alleged communists, anarchists, and fascists. Prosecutions under the Smith Act continued until a series of United States Supreme Court decisions in 1957[1] reversed a number of convictions under the Act as unconstitutional. The statute has been amended several times.

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Should probably bitch about not giving you a spoon to slowly feed and internet the information for you too

On Jan. 28, 2013 at the Working Group Gun Control / Prevention Public Hearing after the Sandy Hook massacre the governing bodies rushed to take away our right to protect ourselves. These REAL AMARICANS stood their ground and delivered a very powerful message.

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The speaker Mr. Henson Ong of Korean decent first thanks the committee for the opportunity to tell of his opposition to the These gun restriction bills as they do nothing to detour future crime.

He tells the committee that he is a legal immigrant. And an AMERICAN by choice. Gun control does NOT work. Your own history is replete with High School rifle teams, Boy Scout Marksmanship Merit Badges, you could buy rifles at the hardware store, you could mail order them and have them delivered right to your home. Your country was awash in readily available firearms and ammunition. And in your past you did not have mass school shootings. So what changed? It was not the availability of guns suddenly exploded or increased, the numbers were actually decreased.


WHAT WAS CHANGED WAS SOCIETAL DECAY. If gun control actually did work Washington D.C. and Chicago would be the safest cities in the world. But they are not safe, they have the toughest gun laws and the highest murder and crime rates in the world.

He says that some people call the AR-15 a weapon of mass killing, but points out that the Department of Homeland Security ( at that time ) stated that a rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO with a 30 round magazine is suitable for personal defensive of use. He documented that; with. HSCEMS-1212-00011 Solicitation 4, the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency.

He states that many ask who needs an AR-15 with 30 round mags? That question has also been brought up. And I would like to put forward that, had the Koreans in the LA Riots ( 1992 Rodney King) not had AR-15s and AK-47s with 30 round magazines, and Rugers 30s, their businesses would have been burned to the ground like all of the other businesses in their neighborhoods. Theirs stood because they stood their ground. I would also put forward the conjecture that had the 10,000 students at Tiananmen Square not been unarmed; things may not have resulted in so many of them disappearing.


In your own laws, United States v. Miller, 309 U.S. 174 (1939), it was made clear that the type of firearms protected by the Second Amendment were those specifically useful and common for military use in defense of the state.

I would like to note that the STATE IS NOT THE GOVERNMENT, THE STATE IS THE PEOPLE

In Lewis v. United States (1980) it is stated that the Second Amendment guarantees your right to keep and bear a firearm that does not have some reasonable relationship to the preservation and efficiency of a well-regulated militia. It has nothing to do with hunting.

The militia as per the debates in the convention shows plainly enough that it is COMPOSED OF ALL MALE PHYSICALLY CAPABLE OF ACTING IN CONCERT FOR COMMON DEFENSE. And further, that ordinarily when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time. The AR-15 is the most common and popular rifle in America at this time.


He wrapped up his statement by sharing a statement from Judge Andrew Kozinski in Silveira v. Lockyer (2003)

“My excellent colleges have forgotten these bitter lessons of history. The prospect of tyranny may not grab the headlines the way vivid stories of gun crime usually do. But few saw the Third Reich coming until it was too late. The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision; one designed only for those exceptionally rare circumstances when all other rights have failed. A FREE PEOPLE CAN ONLY AFFORD TO MAKE THIS MISTAKE ONCE.”

I don't give a damn anymore. I fully intend to die with exactly that which I was born with even if the subtraction of that is, in itself what kills me.

It's funny Dr Lott and the rest of everyone else is under the impression they're banning guns because they want people to be safe when in fact the reality of it all is they want to ban guns so that we are left defenseless against them and they can bring in their china-style communist dystopia and it has nothing to do with gun safety at all they just don't want us to be able to put a fight up against them.

Knowing that, it is foolish to lay around and wait for this to happen, we need to identify the traitors and start taking them out

I don’t want to live with regrets, like not killing the bastards before they come for us

Individualists want to be left alone - they won't be coming for leftists -- it is always the other way around.Lefitism is implicitly authoritarian and relies exclusively on force or stupidity to gain cooperation with its edicts.

The theory however, has already been tested numerous times. Leftists always turn in their guns when they believe the state will impose collectivist policies.
Every. Single. Time.
They are then wiped out by the state as the useless idiots they are, so they can't be turned against the state by yet another faction.
They generally aren't willing to die to impose their collectivist ideas - and won't even try till the state coerces them into it by threatening friends and family. (They are perfectly happy to bully and snitch on a population once there is no real danger they will die of course. )
However, when ordered into battle they do the least amount possible. I must kill that other guy for his stuff isn't the inspirational rallying cry you seem to think it is.

Plus your personal experience and understanding of gun ownership in America is simply not representative (why you assume it would be it a whole other can of worms)

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Granted these are self-reported numbers, and leftists lie a lot. It is roughly 2:1 gap. There is also a huge politcal gap in gun ownership and an even larger one in training and proficiency. Leftists largely don't hunt or train with their weapons. .

Add in the very large rural/urban politcal divide and that most gun owning families are rural you are looking at 10:1 easy in rural areas. Cities - which are 80%+ liberal , will just be laid siege to and deprived of fuel, food, water, and power.
If it comes down to civil war , it is going to be a very one sided conflict in most places -- even if 100% of the LEOs and Military are loyal to the collectivist state ( which is an absurd assumption - the best the left can realistically hope for is a 50/50 split - even with their attempts to purge those organizations and recruit the most fragile and mentally weak people imaginable.)

I mean if the personal ratio you are observing between liberal and conservative gun ownership is correct - you are standing on the front line. You have a Merry Christmas too.

Its better tactics to make them come for you and on your own turf. In fact they are probably hoping that someone goes off and does as you suggest so they can push the "domestic terrorist white supremacists are threatening our Democracy" narrative.

They can't play that you were the aggressor and really they simply don't have the enforcers to ever try to come for people en mass. They issue their stupid edicts. We ignore them - just as many rural county sheriffs ignore the gun laws passed by their blue urban dominated state legislatures . Just get out of the city, become as self-sufficient as possible and live your best life till the day you can't.

Thank you all. Phenomenal input.

I don't have the stats in front of me. But its good to see a breakdown of how deaths by firearm occur. As in self inflicted intentionally, accidentally, gang violence, crimes and indiscriminately.

Racial data is also quite telling.

Comparison with motor vehicle deaths. Deaths by medical error. Pharmaceuticals. Suicides.

The media spreads fear for an agenda.

Parents need to be mindful on the road. With their kids around water. And from falls.

What are parents afraid of? School shooters. Cv19. Terrorism.

I see teenagers at my young sons swim class whose parents never tough them to swim. Almost exclusively AA people I don't know why.

Blacks represent the majority of those imprisoned in this country. They commit 80% of all violent crimes and murders. The entire population does not do these things. The 18 to 36 year olds commit most crimes. This age group is about one third the total of blacks. Half in that age group are female and commit few murders or violent crimes. You end up with a small group of people less than 1% committing 80% of all murders and violent crimes in this country.

So is the solution to gun violence to re do and remake our entire society to placate a small group of thugs who are terrorizing our society? Or is it best to change the 1% who are both violent, aggressive and illiterate?

Thanks for the GREAT INFORMATION we can pass

on to those that care.

Thanks!

A lot of you are ignorant selfish inconsiderate assholes.

Until you all realize this and change there will be no end to the stream of BS you all spew.

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