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Thanks, so it’s not the Stanley M. who is the attorney we all thought may be her dad

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Maybe her step dad. I doubt her mom stayed with this man while he was in jail.
Now, I feel like I need to dig into DM's past lol
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If her mom hooked up with someone else he had the same last name, lol

I don’t think Stanley is related but he if he is could be a brother, cousin to her dad?
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Oh duh!! I'm so stupid lol
Give me the derp!! award for today
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It's so weird...Everything about DM has been scrubbed. I can't find nada anymore on her. I find that sus
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This lady think DM is a man




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I think this theory is beyond stupid.

And that woman in the video looks like a crazy person.

DM had a lot of other suspicious things going on regarding her behavior, this just seems like a way to discredit those theories.
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This lady think DM is a man




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I think this theory is beyond stupid.

And that woman in the video looks like a crazy person.

DM had a lot of other suspicious things going on regarding her behavior, this just seems like a way to discredit those theories.
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She does seem odd.
But, it's been lots of speculation around DM being male/female. Was just pointing out more think she is
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this could be a massive drug ring w LE involved...
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First AT doesn't accept anything, she is the chief public defender and gets assigned to cases. Her dropping x mother just means that, she dropped that case, and I guarantee she has dropped all other cases too as she works for the state and it would be usual practice for her to just solely work on bk case so he can get a fair trial, considering the magnitude of it.

Only way it would be a conflict of interest would be if she dropped c kernodle to represent bk against c kernodle personally.
Looking at the case, it does not appear bk lawyer even met with c kernodle anyway, just normal documents filed before new public defender picked up case. Regardless, it would never be a conflict of interest just because c kernodle is x mom, they are 2 different people.
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A conflict defender was substituted to the case, so we know that there is a potential conflict of interest that could arise, AT obviously knew this and did the right thing

The questions people have are why didn’t they appoint another DP qualified attorney other than AT, that is the list in the tweet of DP attorneys

Some will say they had no idea AT was given both cases and why didn’t she recuse herself from BCK instead since CK was her first case

There are theories that this was a drug hit, Kohberger bought drugs at the house, the house was a drug house, etc.
Let’s say this is the avenue AT goes down for BCK defense strategy

So if they use that as a defense, the prosecution could call all the parents to testify their kids didn’t sell drugs, how could AT cross examine C Kernodle on her drug use or what she may have done with her daughter without it being a conflict
 Quoting: ~kpm~


First and foremost c kernodle was arrested before bk, AT is chief public defender, I don't know about idaho but around here the chief gets every case, then it gets divided out. At this point, it does not appear that AT has even met c kernodle. If she had and there was a conflict then she would of stayed with c kernodle. I don't believe the conflict lies with bk, it would lie with someone arrested prior to kernodle that AT has represented first. Again, if she never personally spoke with kernodle, which according to the court documents, she hasn't,there would be no conflict of interest if c kernodle had to testify. C kernodle is on the run for jumping ball btw so I highly doubt a prosecutor would call her to testify to anything, her actions prove she is not of sane mind and does not make sane decisions.
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I'll also add that the public defender is the state of Idaho and the prosecutor is the state of Idaho, if something does come up with being out of sorts with this public defender,it would be a conflict as she would not be representing her client fairly and would be part of prosecution.. the case gets dropped and charges immediatly dismissed as he has the right to a fair trial, So I highly doubt they screwed this up too, but possible considering how much the state has screwed up already.
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this could be a massive drug ring w LE involved...
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First AT doesn't accept anything, she is the chief public defender and gets assigned to cases. Her dropping x mother just means that, she dropped that case, and I guarantee she has dropped all other cases too as she works for the state and it would be usual practice for her to just solely work on bk case so he can get a fair trial, considering the magnitude of it.

Only way it would be a conflict of interest would be if she dropped c kernodle to represent bk against c kernodle personally.
Looking at the case, it does not appear bk lawyer even met with c kernodle anyway, just normal documents filed before new public defender picked up case. Regardless, it would never be a conflict of interest just because c kernodle is x mom, they are 2 different people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79948074


A conflict defender was substituted to the case, so we know that there is a potential conflict of interest that could arise, AT obviously knew this and did the right thing

The questions people have are why didn’t they appoint another DP qualified attorney other than AT, that is the list in the tweet of DP attorneys

Some will say they had no idea AT was given both cases and why didn’t she recuse herself from BCK instead since CK was her first case

There are theories that this was a drug hit, Kohberger bought drugs at the house, the house was a drug house, etc.
Let’s say this is the avenue AT goes down for BCK defense strategy

So if they use that as a defense, the prosecution could call all the parents to testify their kids didn’t sell drugs, how could AT cross examine C Kernodle on her drug use or what she may have done with her daughter without it being a conflict
 Quoting: ~kpm~


First and foremost c kernodle was arrested before bk, AT is chief public defender, I don't know about idaho but around here the chief gets every case, then it gets divided out. At this point, it does not appear that AT has even met c kernodle. If she had and there was a conflict then she would of stayed with c kernodle. I don't believe the conflict lies with bk, it would lie with someone arrested prior to kernodle that AT has represented first. Again, if she never personally spoke with kernodle, which according to the court documents, she hasn't,there would be no conflict of interest if c kernodle had to testify. C kernodle is on the run for jumping ball btw so I highly doubt a prosecutor would call her to testify to anything, her actions prove she is not of sane mind and does not make sane decisions.
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She put in for change of council January 5, after she got BCK case and while she had CK case, I’m not understanding why you think it’s related to a prior case she had before CK I guess

She morally should not have had both CK & BCK as clients because CK may be called to testify on her daughters behalf and she could have had potential problems if she and BCK use the drug selling defense, she knew this and wisely recused herself

The question is why didn’t she recuse herself from BCK instead of CK, BCK is a high profile case that will get her lots of attention and that’s why I think she dropped CK in favor of BCK
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First AT doesn't accept anything, she is the chief public defender and gets assigned to cases. Her dropping x mother just means that, she dropped that case, and I guarantee she has dropped all other cases too as she works for the state and it would be usual practice for her to just solely work on bk case so he can get a fair trial, considering the magnitude of it.

Only way it would be a conflict of interest would be if she dropped c kernodle to represent bk against c kernodle personally.
Looking at the case, it does not appear bk lawyer even met with c kernodle anyway, just normal documents filed before new public defender picked up case. Regardless, it would never be a conflict of interest just because c kernodle is x mom, they are 2 different people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79948074


A conflict defender was substituted to the case, so we know that there is a potential conflict of interest that could arise, AT obviously knew this and did the right thing

The questions people have are why didn’t they appoint another DP qualified attorney other than AT, that is the list in the tweet of DP attorneys

Some will say they had no idea AT was given both cases and why didn’t she recuse herself from BCK instead since CK was her first case

There are theories that this was a drug hit, Kohberger bought drugs at the house, the house was a drug house, etc.
Let’s say this is the avenue AT goes down for BCK defense strategy

So if they use that as a defense, the prosecution could call all the parents to testify their kids didn’t sell drugs, how could AT cross examine C Kernodle on her drug use or what she may have done with her daughter without it being a conflict
 Quoting: ~kpm~


First and foremost c kernodle was arrested before bk, AT is chief public defender, I don't know about idaho but around here the chief gets every case, then it gets divided out. At this point, it does not appear that AT has even met c kernodle. If she had and there was a conflict then she would of stayed with c kernodle. I don't believe the conflict lies with bk, it would lie with someone arrested prior to kernodle that AT has represented first. Again, if she never personally spoke with kernodle, which according to the court documents, she hasn't,there would be no conflict of interest if c kernodle had to testify. C kernodle is on the run for jumping ball btw so I highly doubt a prosecutor would call her to testify to anything, her actions prove she is not of sane mind and does not make sane decisions.
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She put in for change of council January 5, after she got BCK case and while she had CK case, I’m not understanding why you think it’s related to a prior case she had before CK I guess

She morally should not have had both CK & BCK as clients because CK may be called to testify on her daughters behalf and she could have had potential problems if she and BCK use the drug selling defense, she knew this and wisely recused herself

The question is why didn’t she recuse herself from BCK instead of CK, BCK is a high profile case that will get her lots of attention and that’s why I think she dropped CK in favor of BCK
 Quoting: ~kpm~


I agree. I think a death penalty case would come before a drug charge.
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All the “that woman is really a man!” crap is rampant on right-wing forums. It’s like how they think EVERY conspiracy involves pedophilia. Makes you wonder if they’re trying to desensitize people to real pedophilia and real make-to-female transitioning. Boy Who Cried Wolf syndrome.
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First AT doesn't accept anything, she is the chief public defender and gets assigned to cases. Her dropping x mother just means that, she dropped that case, and I guarantee she has dropped all other cases too as she works for the state and it would be usual practice for her to just solely work on bk case so he can get a fair trial, considering the magnitude of it.

Only way it would be a conflict of interest would be if she dropped c kernodle to represent bk against c kernodle personally.
Looking at the case, it does not appear bk lawyer even met with c kernodle anyway, just normal documents filed before new public defender picked up case. Regardless, it would never be a conflict of interest just because c kernodle is x mom, they are 2 different people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79948074


A conflict defender was substituted to the case, so we know that there is a potential conflict of interest that could arise, AT obviously knew this and did the right thing

The questions people have are why didn’t they appoint another DP qualified attorney other than AT, that is the list in the tweet of DP attorneys

Some will say they had no idea AT was given both cases and why didn’t she recuse herself from BCK instead since CK was her first case

There are theories that this was a drug hit, Kohberger bought drugs at the house, the house was a drug house, etc.
Let’s say this is the avenue AT goes down for BCK defense strategy

So if they use that as a defense, the prosecution could call all the parents to testify their kids didn’t sell drugs, how could AT cross examine C Kernodle on her drug use or what she may have done with her daughter without it being a conflict
 Quoting: ~kpm~


First and foremost c kernodle was arrested before bk, AT is chief public defender, I don't know about idaho but around here the chief gets every case, then it gets divided out. At this point, it does not appear that AT has even met c kernodle. If she had and there was a conflict then she would of stayed with c kernodle. I don't believe the conflict lies with bk, it would lie with someone arrested prior to kernodle that AT has represented first. Again, if she never personally spoke with kernodle, which according to the court documents, she hasn't,there would be no conflict of interest if c kernodle had to testify. C kernodle is on the run for jumping ball btw so I highly doubt a prosecutor would call her to testify to anything, her actions prove she is not of sane mind and does not make sane decisions.
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She put in for change of council January 5, after she got BCK case and while she had CK case, I’m not understanding why you think it’s related to a prior case she had before CK I guess

She morally should not have had both CK & BCK as clients because CK may be called to testify on her daughters behalf and she could have had potential problems if she and BCK use the drug selling defense, she knew this and wisely recused herself

The question is why didn’t she recuse herself from BCK instead of CK, BCK is a high profile case that will get her lots of attention and that’s why I think she dropped CK in favor of BCK
 Quoting: ~kpm~


I've already explained to you the only reasons she could of dropped c kernodle, and it would not be because of bk, if it were then she is corrupt and he is not getting a fair trial along with incompetent representation.
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Starting to think that BCK and BLK were in on it together in some fashion.

I also think there's a possibility they were both trying to frame each other. Hence the sheath left at the scene with BCK's DNA.



Two things I have been absolutely certain of from day one is that no shot the two roommates slept through it and no chance only one guy did this alone.



Also, I just cannot wrap my head around the fact that none of them tried to call for help during all of this. Even one of the victims. Really makes me think it had to be more than one person.
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was BK an informant? why did he and his dad drive hours south to Salt Lake City then head east? Isn't the Salt Lake City FBI running the investigation?
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Because they connected to I-80 there and that took them east to PA.
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All the “that woman is really a man!” crap is rampant on right-wing forums. It’s like how they think EVERY conspiracy involves pedophilia. Makes you wonder if they’re trying to desensitize people to real pedophilia and real make-to-female transitioning. Boy Who Cried Wolf syndrome.
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No, you've got it wrong, it looks like a man and people call it out. The men that dress like women are trying to normalize the pedo stuff, like how they are programming children in kindergarten in public schools with transgender, the truth is there is no transgender, you were born a male or a female..period A man that portrays himself like a woman is insane and a woman that portrays herself as man is insane..and anyone that portrays themselves as a gender other than what they were born is insane, they have no grip what's real...insane
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Maybe her step dad. I doubt her mom stayed with this man while he was in jail.
Now, I feel like I need to dig into DM's past lol
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If her mom hooked up with someone else he had the same last name, lol

I don’t think Stanley is related but he if he is could be a brother, cousin to her dad?
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Oh duh!! I'm so stupid lol
Give me the derp!! award for today
LMFAO
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It's so weird...Everything about DM has been scrubbed. I can't find nada anymore on her. I find that sus
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I can’t find anything on DM, from the discovery doc, AT will find out if DM was paid to testify or maybe she was coerced with prison time for her actions if she didn’t testify

Who knows with this case, there gag order has created more theories than if they would have let it just occur as other cases
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DM doesn’t look like a man. If you think she does, you’re insane.
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A conflict defender was substituted to the case, so we know that there is a potential conflict of interest that could arise, AT obviously knew this and did the right thing

The questions people have are why didn’t they appoint another DP qualified attorney other than AT, that is the list in the tweet of DP attorneys

Some will say they had no idea AT was given both cases and why didn’t she recuse herself from BCK instead since CK was her first case

There are theories that this was a drug hit, Kohberger bought drugs at the house, the house was a drug house, etc.
Let’s say this is the avenue AT goes down for BCK defense strategy

So if they use that as a defense, the prosecution could call all the parents to testify their kids didn’t sell drugs, how could AT cross examine C Kernodle on her drug use or what she may have done with her daughter without it being a conflict
 Quoting: ~kpm~


First and foremost c kernodle was arrested before bk, AT is chief public defender, I don't know about idaho but around here the chief gets every case, then it gets divided out. At this point, it does not appear that AT has even met c kernodle. If she had and there was a conflict then she would of stayed with c kernodle. I don't believe the conflict lies with bk, it would lie with someone arrested prior to kernodle that AT has represented first. Again, if she never personally spoke with kernodle, which according to the court documents, she hasn't,there would be no conflict of interest if c kernodle had to testify. C kernodle is on the run for jumping ball btw so I highly doubt a prosecutor would call her to testify to anything, her actions prove she is not of sane mind and does not make sane decisions.
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She put in for change of council January 5, after she got BCK case and while she had CK case, I’m not understanding why you think it’s related to a prior case she had before CK I guess

She morally should not have had both CK & BCK as clients because CK may be called to testify on her daughters behalf and she could have had potential problems if she and BCK use the drug selling defense, she knew this and wisely recused herself

The question is why didn’t she recuse herself from BCK instead of CK, BCK is a high profile case that will get her lots of attention and that’s why I think she dropped CK in favor of BCK
 Quoting: ~kpm~


I've already explained to you the only reasons she could of dropped c kernodle, and it would not be because of bk, if it were then she is corrupt and he is not getting a fair trial along with incompetent representation.
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So it just so happens she dropped CK when she got BCK, umkay
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This is a good question
Why did they have FBI agents from WV?



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This lady think DM is a man




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I think this theory is beyond stupid.

And that woman in the video looks like a crazy person.

DM had a lot of other suspicious things going on regarding her behavior, this just seems like a way to discredit those theories.
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She does seem odd.
But, it's been lots of speculation around DM being male/female. Was just pointing out more think she is
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Yes I know. Just saying the "it's a tranneeeh" bandwagon usually have ulterior motives.

I don't think she's is because most go over the top with excessively done hair, makeup and brows/lashes and clothes. She's the most natural out of all of them.

She may use lip filler which does seem excessive at that young age but the young Kardashians do it too so also trendy. All of them have that plastic look.
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All the “that woman is really a man!” crap is rampant on right-wing forums. It’s like how they think EVERY conspiracy involves pedophilia. Makes you wonder if they’re trying to desensitize people to real pedophilia and real make-to-female transitioning. Boy Who Cried Wolf syndrome.
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It's to make conservatives look stupid
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Yesterday, I was at a friend's house.
I noticed a reliquary Garmin gps hand-held unit on her coffee table and asked about it, wondering where it came from and why she had it, as she has no interest in electronics, including smartphones and internet, etc.
She said she had it out because it as in a storage container she was going through and wondered whether I want it.
She didn't know, or claimed so, whee it came from, as age often buys boxes of random stuff at flea markets and yard sales, usually donating the bulk of her purchases to area goodwill stores.
Long story shorter, age has an estranged son, who is a meth addict and current guest of the county, incarcerated for burglary.
The thought occurred to me that the unit could in fact be stolen property. I have no way of knowing. And, as I wiped it down with a handkerchief, the thought occurred that three is no way I could ensure a shingle source of my DNA wouldnot remain on the object, and it could end up any place in the future.

What if the suspect in jail, was one of the people who showed up, (let's say around 9 a.m., Nov. 13), to help with the aftermath cleansing. Someone could have handed him a knife sheath. "We found this. You're in criminology. What do you think about it?"

Every person who entered that residence is a suspect.
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First and foremost c kernodle was arrested before bk, AT is chief public defender, I don't know about idaho but around here the chief gets every case, then it gets divided out. At this point, it does not appear that AT has even met c kernodle. If she had and there was a conflict then she would of stayed with c kernodle. I don't believe the conflict lies with bk, it would lie with someone arrested prior to kernodle that AT has represented first. Again, if she never personally spoke with kernodle, which according to the court documents, she hasn't,there would be no conflict of interest if c kernodle had to testify. C kernodle is on the run for jumping ball btw so I highly doubt a prosecutor would call her to testify to anything, her actions prove she is not of sane mind and does not make sane decisions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79948074


She put in for change of council January 5, after she got BCK case and while she had CK case, I’m not understanding why you think it’s related to a prior case she had before CK I guess

She morally should not have had both CK & BCK as clients because CK may be called to testify on her daughters behalf and she could have had potential problems if she and BCK use the drug selling defense, she knew this and wisely recused herself

The question is why didn’t she recuse herself from BCK instead of CK, BCK is a high profile case that will get her lots of attention and that’s why I think she dropped CK in favor of BCK
 Quoting: ~kpm~


I've already explained to you the only reasons she could of dropped c kernodle, and it would not be because of bk, if it were then she is corrupt and he is not getting a fair trial along with incompetent representation.
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So it just so happens she dropped CK when she got BCK, umkay
 Quoting: ~kpm~


Call the public defenders office and ask as it is public information, if they say no comment put in a foia request and they have to disclose, they will send it via email if you request. I think you're right, she could be on the prosecutors side not giving him fair representation. Everything all of them do is public information so everything has to be disclosed.
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Yesterday, I was at a friend's house.
I noticed a reliquary Garmin gps hand-held unit on her coffee table and asked about it, wondering where it came from and why she had it, as she has no interest in electronics, including smartphones and internet, etc.
She said she had it out because it as in a storage container she was going through and wondered whether I want it.
She didn't know, or claimed so, whee it came from, as age often buys boxes of random stuff at flea markets and yard sales, usually donating the bulk of her purchases to area goodwill stores.
Long story shorter, age has an estranged son, who is a meth addict and current guest of the county, incarcerated for burglary.
The thought occurred to me that the unit could in fact be stolen property. I have no way of knowing. And, as I wiped it down with a handkerchief, the thought occurred that three is no way I could ensure a shingle source of my DNA wouldnot remain on the object, and it could end up any place in the future.

What if the suspect in jail, was one of the people who showed up, (let's say around 9 a.m., Nov. 13), to help with the aftermath cleansing. Someone could have handed him a knife sheath. "We found this. You're in criminology. What do you think about it?"

Every person who entered that residence is a suspect.
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Yes it's ridiculous
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Yesterday, I was at a friend's house.
I noticed a reliquary Garmin gps hand-held unit on her coffee table and asked about it, wondering where it came from and why she had it, as she has no interest in electronics, including smartphones and internet, etc.
She said she had it out because it as in a storage container she was going through and wondered whether I want it.
She didn't know, or claimed so, whee it came from, as age often buys boxes of random stuff at flea markets and yard sales, usually donating the bulk of her purchases to area goodwill stores.
Long story shorter, age has an estranged son, who is a meth addict and current guest of the county, incarcerated for burglary.
The thought occurred to me that the unit could in fact be stolen property. I have no way of knowing. And, as I wiped it down with a handkerchief, the thought occurred that three is no way I could ensure a shingle source of my DNA wouldnot remain on the object, and it could end up any place in the future.

What if the suspect in jail, was one of the people who showed up, (let's say around 9 a.m., Nov. 13), to help with the aftermath cleansing. Someone could have handed him a knife sheath. "We found this. You're in criminology. What do you think about it?"

Every person who entered that residence is a suspect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74642967


Problem with the sheath is no le saw it for 4 hours before payne got there, then after 4pm payne found the sheath per paynes sworn affidavit.
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01/24/2023 02:35 PM

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This is a good question
Why did they have FBI agents from WV?



 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


They had agents from Utah and WV, I think each division has its expertise?

The FBI's Criminal Justice Information Services Division, or CJIS, is a high-tech hub in the hills of West Virginia that provides a range of state of-the-art tools and services to law enforcement, national security and intelligence community partners, and the general public.

[link to www.fbi.gov (secure)]


I think the Utah FBI is a satellite hub for numerous states

Satellite Office Territories
Along with our main office in Salt Lake City, we have 17 resident agencies in Utah, Idaho, and Montana.


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Re: Idaho 4 Murders!!!!Bryan Kohberger arrested!!Waived right to speedy trial!
Yesterday, I was at a friend's house.
I noticed a reliquary Garmin gps hand-held unit on her coffee table and asked about it, wondering where it came from and why she had it, as she has no interest in electronics, including smartphones and internet, etc.
She said she had it out because it as in a storage container she was going through and wondered whether I want it.
She didn't know, or claimed so, whee it came from, as age often buys boxes of random stuff at flea markets and yard sales, usually donating the bulk of her purchases to area goodwill stores.
Long story shorter, age has an estranged son, who is a meth addict and current guest of the county, incarcerated for burglary.
The thought occurred to me that the unit could in fact be stolen property. I have no way of knowing. And, as I wiped it down with a handkerchief, the thought occurred that three is no way I could ensure a shingle source of my DNA wouldnot remain on the object, and it could end up any place in the future.

What if the suspect in jail, was one of the people who showed up, (let's say around 9 a.m., Nov. 13), to help with the aftermath cleansing. Someone could have handed him a knife sheath. "We found this. You're in criminology. What do you think about it?"

Every person who entered that residence is a suspect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74642967


Yes it's ridiculous
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85149206


Add it gets v even more ridiculous when they are using contact dna, that means everyone's dna from every object in that house is a suspect. I mean we are talking mail lady and all the sorters at the mail facility, who sent the mail, who applied the stamp, who made the paper, who made the envelope, and anyone else who has ever touched any of those items in the last year or more...see contact dna is bullsit. Alot of people touch alot of things and it does not put them in a crime scene..just means they wear near the object or the object was near a persons dna such as skin, hair, etc at some point.
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01/24/2023 02:39 PM
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Re: Idaho 4 Murders!!!!Bryan Kohberger arrested!!Waived right to speedy trial!
Yesterday, I was at a friend's house.
I noticed a reliquary Garmin gps hand-held unit on her coffee table and asked about it, wondering where it came from and why she had it, as she has no interest in electronics, including smartphones and internet, etc.
She said she had it out because it as in a storage container she was going through and wondered whether I want it.
She didn't know, or claimed so, whee it came from, as age often buys boxes of random stuff at flea markets and yard sales, usually donating the bulk of her purchases to area goodwill stores.
Long story shorter, age has an estranged son, who is a meth addict and current guest of the county, incarcerated for burglary.
The thought occurred to me that the unit could in fact be stolen property. I have no way of knowing. And, as I wiped it down with a handkerchief, the thought occurred that three is no way I could ensure a shingle source of my DNA wouldnot remain on the object, and it could end up any place in the future.

What if the suspect in jail, was one of the people who showed up, (let's say around 9 a.m., Nov. 13), to help with the aftermath cleansing. Someone could have handed him a knife sheath. "We found this. You're in criminology. What do you think about it?"

Every person who entered that residence is a suspect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74642967


Problem with the sheath is no le saw it for 4 hours before payne got there, then after 4pm payne found the sheath per paynes sworn affidavit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79948074


This is strictly my opinion:

My gut tells me Payne was involved, as was
the other military guy who was killed.

I also had a dream about this case and a voice came through in my dream loud and clear:

"Pimp your daughter to local police and this is what happens"

I occasionally get some prophetic messages in my dreams that are true so I wrote it down.

Pretty sure this case is related to the underage police scandal in Pullman a few months back and the two moms arrested on drug charges.
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First and foremost c kernodle was arrested before bk, AT is chief public defender, I don't know about idaho but around here the chief gets every case, then it gets divided out. At this point, it does not appear that AT has even met c kernodle. If she had and there was a conflict then she would of stayed with c kernodle. I don't believe the conflict lies with bk, it would lie with someone arrested prior to kernodle that AT has represented first. Again, if she never personally spoke with kernodle, which according to the court documents, she hasn't,there would be no conflict of interest if c kernodle had to testify. C kernodle is on the run for jumping ball btw so I highly doubt a prosecutor would call her to testify to anything, her actions prove she is not of sane mind and does not make sane decisions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79948074


She put in for change of council January 5, after she got BCK case and while she had CK case, I’m not understanding why you think it’s related to a prior case she had before CK I guess

She morally should not have had both CK & BCK as clients because CK may be called to testify on her daughters behalf and she could have had potential problems if she and BCK use the drug selling defense, she knew this and wisely recused herself

The question is why didn’t she recuse herself from BCK instead of CK, BCK is a high profile case that will get her lots of attention and that’s why I think she dropped CK in favor of BCK
 Quoting: ~kpm~


I've already explained to you the only reasons she could of dropped c kernodle, and it would not be because of bk, if it were then she is corrupt and he is not getting a fair trial along with incompetent representation.
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So it just so happens she dropped CK when she got BCK, umkay
 Quoting: ~kpm~



She is the only one in her district that in a qualified to be lead in a murder trial.
Xana's mom is on the run and has no trial date because they have no idea where she is.


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01/24/2023 02:45 PM
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This lady think DM is a man




 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


I think this theory is beyond stupid.

And that woman in the video looks like a crazy person.

DM had a lot of other suspicious things going on regarding her behavior, this just seems like a way to discredit those theories.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85149206


She does seem odd.
But, it's been lots of speculation around DM being male/female. Was just pointing out more think she is
 Quoting: OneSweetWorld


Yes I know. Just saying the "it's a tranneeeh" bandwagon usually have ulterior motives.

I don't think she's is because most go over the top with excessively done hair, makeup and brows/lashes and clothes. She's the most natural out of all of them.

She may use lip filler which does seem excessive at that young age but the young Kardashians do it too so also trendy. All of them have that plastic look.
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She's a girl. People calling her anything else are the same people who promote flat earth and claim that NASA faked the moon landings.
She grew up in Boise, Idaho, right next door to the state that murders sheep herders for "snuggling to stay warm in winter".
That's not Seattle, Portland, or "San Farisco".
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Re: Idaho 4 Murders!!!!Bryan Kohberger arrested!!Waived right to speedy trial!
Yesterday, I was at a friend's house.
I noticed a reliquary Garmin gps hand-held unit on her coffee table and asked about it, wondering where it came from and why she had it, as she has no interest in electronics, including smartphones and internet, etc.
She said she had it out because it as in a storage container she was going through and wondered whether I want it.
She didn't know, or claimed so, whee it came from, as age often buys boxes of random stuff at flea markets and yard sales, usually donating the bulk of her purchases to area goodwill stores.
Long story shorter, age has an estranged son, who is a meth addict and current guest of the county, incarcerated for burglary.
The thought occurred to me that the unit could in fact be stolen property. I have no way of knowing. And, as I wiped it down with a handkerchief, the thought occurred that three is no way I could ensure a shingle source of my DNA wouldnot remain on the object, and it could end up any place in the future.

What if the suspect in jail, was one of the people who showed up, (let's say around 9 a.m., Nov. 13), to help with the aftermath cleansing. Someone could have handed him a knife sheath. "We found this. You're in criminology. What do you think about it?"

Every person who entered that residence is a suspect.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74642967


Problem with the sheath is no le saw it for 4 hours before payne got there, then after 4pm payne found the sheath per paynes sworn affidavit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79948074


This is strictly my opinion:

My gut tells me Payne was involved, as was
the other military guy who was killed.

I also had a dream about this case and a voice came through in my dream loud and clear:

"Pimp your daughter to local police and this is what happens"

I occasionally get some prophetic messages in my dreams that are true so I wrote it down.

Pretty sure this case is related to the underage police scandal in Pullman a few months back and the two moms arrested on drug charges.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85149206


Imo good theory, I'll add I think bk was an informant that was involved turning people in, I think k was involved into looking into the corruption too. Look at the lady she turned into the cop involved in this case regarding a missing woman she located at Walmart, the cop said he never reviewed the tapes at Walmart, and we all know Walmart has cameras everywhere, then two weeks later the missing woman k reported was found dead. I think the swat was ordered in PA and it didn't go as planned, they sent a swat team to someone they never even interrogated, and they could never identify or place at a crime scene where 4 people were murdered... that's not usual practice at all..period.
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She put in for change of council January 5, after she got BCK case and while she had CK case, I’m not understanding why you think it’s related to a prior case she had before CK I guess

She morally should not have had both CK & BCK as clients because CK may be called to testify on her daughters behalf and she could have had potential problems if she and BCK use the drug selling defense, she knew this and wisely recused herself

The question is why didn’t she recuse herself from BCK instead of CK, BCK is a high profile case that will get her lots of attention and that’s why I think she dropped CK in favor of BCK
 Quoting: ~kpm~


I've already explained to you the only reasons she could of dropped c kernodle, and it would not be because of bk, if it were then she is corrupt and he is not getting a fair trial along with incompetent representation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79948074


So it just so happens she dropped CK when she got BCK, umkay
 Quoting: ~kpm~



She is the only one in her district that in a qualified to be lead in a murder trial.
Xana's mom is on the run and has no trial date because they have no idea where she is.



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79856182


There are plenty that can lead a murder trial, she is chief public defender that just means she's going to be the one leading but not the only one, even if she were the only one in her district as you say, that's irrelevant as it is the state representing him, not a district and another public defender would take the case. But her being the only one in a district is nonsense, there is always a backup. What if AT passed away, everyone stands in a frozen state of shock until they hire another chief public defender? All public defenders are qualified to do the same things.





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