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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79776928 United States 01/01/2023 02:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | meaning, the future is really bleak for criminals because of the triangulation nature of dna left at crime scenes means a databes with only 40 percent of the population extrapolates out to 75-80 percent when you figure in extended 3rd/4th/5th cousin it will be near to impossible to engage in hand to hand combat and not expose yourself via your mapped out kinfolk network its genius and it makes people fucking behave |
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(OP) User ID: 84803193 United States 01/01/2023 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Drone video over house where Moscow murder suspect was arrested in PA. His parents' house. Quoting: nutmeg [link to www.kxly.com (secure)] Comments have been disabled. |
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(OP) User ID: 84803193 United States 01/01/2023 02:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can put any fake name on your test you want, even your dog's name but the mitochondrial goes back to the bronze age Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79776928 meaning, the future is really bleak for criminals because of the triangulation nature of dna left at crime scenes means a databes with only 40 percent of the population extrapolates out to 75-80 percent when you figure in extended 3rd/4th/5th cousin it will be near to impossible to engage in hand to hand combat and not expose yourself via your mapped out kinfolk network its genius and it makes people fucking behave Yes, all fish swim upriver to their birth Comments have been disabled. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84884639 United States 01/01/2023 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you can put any fake name on your test you want, even your dog's name but the mitochondrial goes back to the bronze age Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79776928 meaning, the future is really bleak for criminals because of the triangulation nature of dna left at crime scenes means a databes with only 40 percent of the population extrapolates out to 75-80 percent when you figure in extended 3rd/4th/5th cousin it will be near to impossible to engage in hand to hand combat and not expose yourself via your mapped out kinfolk network its genius and it makes people fucking behave Too many loopholes in the flawed system for it to be accurate. Except it is not genius when nobody submits to it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84082465 United States 01/01/2023 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once they have a suspect name all then need is to follow them, grab some article they used, like a discarded coffee cup at a coffee shop or sandwich wrapper that they were observed holding at a fast food place, get the DNA off the discarded item ... and VOILA then they can compare the suspect's DNA off the discarded item with that found at the crime scene. And as for all the comments above that YOU can send in a DNA sample with a FAKE name .. ... is EVERYBODY in your family going to be sending in FAKE name and using the SAME FAKE family name when they send their samples in? ... Doubtful!! All they are doing with the "23 And Me" type of DNA sampling data base is narrowing the list down ... NOT picking out a specific person, though if it is a parent or brother/sister who sent a sample in that narrows the list down to just a very few people (generally 6 or less) (the reason it isn't used all the time, YET, is because it is expensive and time consuming presently do to this type of investigation ... but give it 10 years and the cost will be 1% of what it is today and very very few crimes that involve physical contact between the perp and the victim will be able to be committed without them being able to get a very narrow list of suspects) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84082465 United States 01/01/2023 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They just use the Genealogy information to narrow down the list to a family linage ... and then engage in a typical investigation as to WHO in that linage may have been in the area at the time of the crime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84082465 Once they have a suspect name all then need is to follow them, grab some article they used, like a discarded coffee cup at a coffee shop or sandwich wrapper that they were observed holding at a fast food place, get the DNA off the discarded item ... and VOILA then they can compare the suspect's DNA off the discarded item with that found at the crime scene. And as for all the comments above that YOU can send in a DNA sample with a FAKE name .. ... is EVERYBODY in your family going to be sending in FAKE name and using the SAME FAKE family name when they send their samples in? ... Doubtful!! All they are doing with the "23 And Me" type of DNA sampling data base is narrowing the list down ... NOT picking out a specific person, though if it is a parent or brother/sister who sent a sample in that narrows the list down to just a very few people (generally 6 or less) (the reason it isn't used all the time, YET, is because it is expensive and time consuming presently do to this type of investigation ... but give it 10 years and the cost will be 1% of what it is today and very very few crimes that involve physical contact between the perp and the victim will be able to be committed without them being able to get a very narrow list of suspects) Here is a CBS video news report from 2018 about how the use of the large databases of family DNA are now being used to solve crimes via the method I described above. This is NOT new technology ... it has now been in use for a number of years. (I am surprised at the lack of knowledge of people on GLP about this ... it has been well reported a number of times on both TV News programs and in the written press for years now) [link to www.cbsnews.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76389541 United States 01/01/2023 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like bullshit since these kits are nothing but what the purchaser chooses to use as their name when they send it in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84301473 You can literally swab someone then put someone else's name on the paperwork that they enter into their Chinese database. This is why these kits aren't used in courts, but the police can use it to get a warrant. Sounds shady af. I think you will find This narrowed it down to who they suspected. They likely used other evidence when the figured out who he was. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76389541 United States 01/01/2023 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way this works is that people in your family have sent these kits in, and it doesn't have to be the suspect. It could be his sister, Mom, cousin, whoever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77800850 The DNA ancestry companies OWN whatever DNA is sent in, and sell it to law enforcement who now have all the DNA ever sent in within their acquired DNA database. So a victim scratches a perp who is wearing gloves and scratches his skin which is now under the victim's fingernails. That DNA is put through the DNA database created from the Chinese companies (CCP) who owns it that sold it to FBI and it may match a family member who has your same geneology. Once the DNA is narrowed down through ancestry accounts they just find out who owns a white hyundia, then surveil them. So, even if he didn't send his DNA to China, someone in his family sent theirs and that's all it takes for a close match. The rest is just parallel investigation. BTW, the suspect now claims he is innocent (through his lawyer), and asked "who else did they arrest?" Again. Flawed system because anyone can send in dna and write down..let's just say your aunts name, commit crime then they pull up your aunt and get a warrant against your aunt. Easy to frame someone using this, and if that is a possibly. Which it is, then it should not be used. Now your aunt sits in jail with no bail until they figure this shit out. Should be illegal to use that to charge someone or get a warrant on someone. What do you not get? This is done as a invegative tool, not a evidence tool. This wont be admissible in court. The swab the take on hiss arrest, WILL. The PA police where following this guy for five days before his arrest. They could have easilyserched his trash and got dna to see if it was a total match and not just a family member. Not to mention this guy was driving a car of interest. |
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User ID: 80117407 United States 01/01/2023 11:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How come Chicago/Detroit only solve like 5% of their murder cases then? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84644486 Spending money to get your DNA tested isn't really a getto thing. This has been going on for a while now though. There have been a few shows on the woman that really has been forwarding forensic genealogy. It's the slow building of the beast system. It's going to have everyone's DNA from cradle to grave and it'll watch, track and trace everyone. There won't be any crime, except the crimes committed by the system and it's lackeys. A real hell world. It shows how dumb everyone is though. They buy and build their own system of eternal enslavement and damnation. “The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.” Elena Gorokhova, A Mountain of Crumbs |
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User ID: 80117407 United States 01/01/2023 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm all for using dna to catch murderers and rapists. Why would you people be against that? Quoting: NDFarm If Everyone's would be on file most crimes would be solved within hours. Read my above post moran. Because, the system will be used against you in the end, but the corrupt and criminal within the system will still continue to torture, rape and murder at will. They won't get caught though, the system will just be for the proles. Like it is in China with the CCP. I bet the party heads aren't passing through face scanning cameras and checking QR codes. Today, murders and rapists; tomorrow; dissenters, conspiracy theorists, Christians, science tards that don't agree with the propaganda, anyone who believes in antiquated ideas like freedom and personal autonomy, etc. I bet all the dictators and tyrants of all time would agree, what a wonderful system and they wish they would have had it. Last Edited by themessengernevermatters on 01/01/2023 11:48 AM “The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.” Elena Gorokhova, A Mountain of Crumbs |
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User ID: 75847400 United States 01/01/2023 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm all for using dna to catch murderers and rapists. Why would you people be against that? Quoting: NDFarm If Everyone's would be on file most crimes would be solved within hours. Read my above post moran. Because, the system will be used against you in the end, but the corrupt and criminal within the system will still continue to torture, rape and murder at will. They won't get caught though, the system will just be for the proles. Like it is in China with the CCP. I bet the party heads aren't passing through face scanning cameras and checking QR codes. Today, murders and rapists; tomorrow; dissenters, conspiracy theorists, Christians, science tards that don't agree with the propaganda, anyone who believes in antiquated ideas like freedom and personal autonomy, etc. I bet all the dictators and tyrants of all time would agree, what a wonderful system and they wish they would have had it. I've never heard once that dna convicted anyone falsely. It's the other way around and it also frees alot of people falsely imprisoned. Last Edited by NDFarm on 01/01/2023 12:06 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76389541 United States 01/01/2023 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm all for using dna to catch murderers and rapists. Why would you people be against that? Quoting: NDFarm If Everyone's would be on file most crimes would be solved within hours. Read my above post moran. Because, the system will be used against you in the end, but the corrupt and criminal within the system will still continue to torture, rape and murder at will. They won't get caught though, the system will just be for the proles. Like it is in China with the CCP. I bet the party heads aren't passing through face scanning cameras and checking QR codes. Today, murders and rapists; tomorrow; dissenters, conspiracy theorists, Christians, science tards that don't agree with the propaganda, anyone who believes in antiquated ideas like freedom and personal autonomy, etc. I bet all the dictators and tyrants of all time would agree, what a wonderful system and they wish they would have had it. Your not the sharpest tool in the shed. Are you? Totalitarian regimes wouldn't even need to fuck around with DNA, you would just disappear one day. No your shitting your pants for some reason. Did you leave so DNA somewhere you shouldn't have? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76389541 United States 01/01/2023 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm all for using dna to catch murderers and rapists. Why would you people be against that? Quoting: NDFarm If Everyone's would be on file most crimes would be solved within hours. Read my above post moran. Because, the system will be used against you in the end, but the corrupt and criminal within the system will still continue to torture, rape and murder at will. They won't get caught though, the system will just be for the proles. Like it is in China with the CCP. I bet the party heads aren't passing through face scanning cameras and checking QR codes. Today, murders and rapists; tomorrow; dissenters, conspiracy theorists, Christians, science tards that don't agree with the propaganda, anyone who believes in antiquated ideas like freedom and personal autonomy, etc. I bet all the dictators and tyrants of all time would agree, what a wonderful system and they wish they would have had it. I've never heard once that dna convicted anyone falsely. It's the other way around and it also frees alot of people falsely imprisoned. Exactly. Its also Identfied remains of victims who couldn't be identified through the usual methods. Take 911 as example. people were destroyed beyond being able to use dental record or finger prints. The used DNA to at least give the family some remains to bury and confirm their loved ones death. The fact this poster is getting so upset is highly suspect. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82030106 United States 01/01/2023 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way this works is that people in your family have sent these kits in, and it doesn't have to be the suspect. It could be his sister, Mom, cousin, whoever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77800850 The DNA ancestry companies OWN whatever DNA is sent in, and sell it to law enforcement who now have all the DNA ever sent in within their acquired DNA database. So a victim scratches a perp who is wearing gloves and scratches his skin which is now under the victim's fingernails. That DNA is put through the DNA database created from the Chinese companies (CCP) who owns it that sold it to FBI and it may match a family member who has your same geneology. Once the DNA is narrowed down through ancestry accounts they just find out who owns a white hyundia, then surveil them. So, even if he didn't send his DNA to China, someone in his family sent theirs and that's all it takes for a close match. The rest is just parallel investigation. BTW, the suspect now claims he is innocent (through his lawyer), and asked "who else did they arrest?" Again. Flawed system because anyone can send in dna and write down..let's just say your aunts name, commit crime then they pull up your aunt and get a warrant against your aunt. Easy to frame someone using this, and if that is a possibly. Which it is, then it should not be used. Now your aunt sits in jail with no bail until they figure this shit out. Should be illegal to use that to charge someone or get a warrant on someone. What do you not get? This is done as a invegative tool, not a evidence tool. This wont be admissible in court. The swab the take on hiss arrest, WILL. The PA police where following this guy for five days before his arrest. They could have easilyserched his trash and got dna to see if it was a total match and not just a family member. Not to mention this guy was driving a car of interest. Look your own theory makes no sense, if they got dna at crime scene and matched it to his family dna, then wtf would they wait 5 days, they would arrest immediatly with probable cause. FFS why go through trash, when they can't prove it was his trash. |
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User ID: 80117407 United States 01/01/2023 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm all for using dna to catch murderers and rapists. Why would you people be against that? Quoting: NDFarm If Everyone's would be on file most crimes would be solved within hours. Read my above post moran. Because, the system will be used against you in the end, but the corrupt and criminal within the system will still continue to torture, rape and murder at will. They won't get caught though, the system will just be for the proles. Like it is in China with the CCP. I bet the party heads aren't passing through face scanning cameras and checking QR codes. Today, murders and rapists; tomorrow; dissenters, conspiracy theorists, Christians, science tards that don't agree with the propaganda, anyone who believes in antiquated ideas like freedom and personal autonomy, etc. I bet all the dictators and tyrants of all time would agree, what a wonderful system and they wish they would have had it. Your not the sharpest tool in the shed. Are you? Totalitarian regimes wouldn't even need to fuck around with DNA, you would just disappear one day. No your shitting your pants for some reason. Did you leave so DNA somewhere you shouldn't have? Sharper than you. The fact is the most totalitarian government on the face of the planet at this time; China, is developing and using all these systems; face and gait tracking cameras, buying and building a massive DNA database, social credit systems and QR codes. Of course they want those systems, it makes their tyranny more efficient and secure from revolution. As far as it never being abused like a lot of you morans keep claiming, there has been many examples and scandals over the past years with state crime labs falsifying and planting evidence. The systems are only as reliable and secure as the leaders of the government and they have all become criminal and corrupt globalist lackeys. Of course you think the system will never be used against you, until it is. But that is because you are all short sighted naïve Pollyannaish morans. Last Edited by themessengernevermatters on 01/01/2023 12:41 PM “The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.” Elena Gorokhova, A Mountain of Crumbs |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76389541 United States 01/01/2023 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way this works is that people in your family have sent these kits in, and it doesn't have to be the suspect. It could be his sister, Mom, cousin, whoever. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77800850 The DNA ancestry companies OWN whatever DNA is sent in, and sell it to law enforcement who now have all the DNA ever sent in within their acquired DNA database. So a victim scratches a perp who is wearing gloves and scratches his skin which is now under the victim's fingernails. That DNA is put through the DNA database created from the Chinese companies (CCP) who owns it that sold it to FBI and it may match a family member who has your same geneology. Once the DNA is narrowed down through ancestry accounts they just find out who owns a white hyundia, then surveil them. So, even if he didn't send his DNA to China, someone in his family sent theirs and that's all it takes for a close match. The rest is just parallel investigation. BTW, the suspect now claims he is innocent (through his lawyer), and asked "who else did they arrest?" Again. Flawed system because anyone can send in dna and write down..let's just say your aunts name, commit crime then they pull up your aunt and get a warrant against your aunt. Easy to frame someone using this, and if that is a possibly. Which it is, then it should not be used. Now your aunt sits in jail with no bail until they figure this shit out. Should be illegal to use that to charge someone or get a warrant on someone. What do you not get? This is done as a invegative tool, not a evidence tool. This wont be admissible in court. The swab the take on hiss arrest, WILL. The PA police where following this guy for five days before his arrest. They could have easilyserched his trash and got dna to see if it was a total match and not just a family member. Not to mention this guy was driving a car of interest. Look your own theory makes no sense, if they got dna at crime scene and matched it to his family dna, then wtf would they wait 5 days, they would arrest immediatly with probable cause. FFS why go through trash, when they can't prove it was his trash. Then they would have haved to arrested The WHOLE fucking family. That's not legal and wasn't the goal. Before these results came back the police had no ideo of who to look at. WITH THESE RESULTS THEY NARROWED TO DOWN TO A FAMILY. THEY HAD TO NARROW DOWN TO WHICH ACTUAL FAMILY MEMBER WAS THE PERP. The clearly got evidence that this guy was the family member who did it. When the arrest affidavit is released we will find out what that was. Dam, whats so hard to understand? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82030106 United States 01/01/2023 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm all for using dna to catch murderers and rapists. Why would you people be against that? Quoting: NDFarm If Everyone's would be on file most crimes would be solved within hours. Read my above post moran. Because, the system will be used against you in the end, but the corrupt and criminal within the system will still continue to torture, rape and murder at will. They won't get caught though, the system will just be for the proles. Like it is in China with the CCP. I bet the party heads aren't passing through face scanning cameras and checking QR codes. Today, murders and rapists; tomorrow; dissenters, conspiracy theorists, Christians, science tards that don't agree with the propaganda, anyone who believes in antiquated ideas like freedom and personal autonomy, etc. I bet all the dictators and tyrants of all time would agree, what a wonderful system and they wish they would have had it. Your not the sharpest tool in the shed. Are you? Totalitarian regimes wouldn't even need to fuck around with DNA, you would just disappear one day. No your shitting your pants for some reason. Did you leave so DNA somewhere you shouldn't have? Sharper than you. The fact is the most totalitarian government on the face of the planet at this time; China, is developing and using all these systems; face and gait tracking cameras, buying and building a massive DNA database, social credit systems and QR codes. Of course they want those systems, it makes their tyranny more efficient and secure from revolution. As far as it never being abused like a lot of you morans keep claiming, there has been many examples and scandals over the past years with state crime labs falsifying and planting evidence. The systems are only as reliable and secure as the leaders of the government and they have all become criminal and corrupt globalist lackeys. Of course you think the system will never be used against you, until it is. But that is because you are all short sighted naïve Pollyannaish morans. Exactly right. These idiots that are promoting send your dna to China are bots trying to get people to think that is a good idea. They come out and say it solves crimes when in fact it does not, if dna is at a crime scene they still have go prove how it got there. But idiots think that because dna was there the crime is solved. Again, they still have to prove how your dna got there, just because it is there doesn't mean it wasn't planted there. |
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User ID: 80117407 United States 01/01/2023 12:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm all for using dna to catch murderers and rapists. Why would you people be against that? Quoting: NDFarm If Everyone's would be on file most crimes would be solved within hours. Read my above post moran. Because, the system will be used against you in the end, but the corrupt and criminal within the system will still continue to torture, rape and murder at will. They won't get caught though, the system will just be for the proles. Like it is in China with the CCP. I bet the party heads aren't passing through face scanning cameras and checking QR codes. Today, murders and rapists; tomorrow; dissenters, conspiracy theorists, Christians, science tards that don't agree with the propaganda, anyone who believes in antiquated ideas like freedom and personal autonomy, etc. I bet all the dictators and tyrants of all time would agree, what a wonderful system and they wish they would have had it. I've never heard once that dna convicted anyone falsely. It's the other way around and it also frees alot of people falsely imprisoned. Exactly. Its also Identfied remains of victims who couldn't be identified through the usual methods. Take 911 as example. people were destroyed beyond being able to use dental record or finger prints. The used DNA to at least give the family some remains to bury and confirm their loved ones death. The fact this poster is getting so upset is highly suspect. Yeah suspect me all you want moran. The reason I am speaking out about it is because the tyranny they are building will be sold as safety and security. The fact is it would be a real safe world if everyone was locked down in their cubicles and only let out to work at the state factory and if every activity down to taking a shower were watched by big brother. You could be a safe little rat in your safe little cage. Well right up until one of the corrupt cats running the system decides they don't like you. They of course will miraculously escape the all the surveillance, because they run it, they own it and they control it. Enjoy what freedom you all have left geniuses. It's going to all end soon. They are building out the global surveillance grid right now everyday and you are helping them build it. One brick at a time. Last Edited by themessengernevermatters on 01/01/2023 12:49 PM “The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.” Elena Gorokhova, A Mountain of Crumbs |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82030106 United States 01/01/2023 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84884639 Again. Flawed system because anyone can send in dna and write down..let's just say your aunts name, commit crime then they pull up your aunt and get a warrant against your aunt. Easy to frame someone using this, and if that is a possibly. Which it is, then it should not be used. Now your aunt sits in jail with no bail until they figure this shit out. Should be illegal to use that to charge someone or get a warrant on someone. What do you not get? This is done as a invegative tool, not a evidence tool. This wont be admissible in court. The swab the take on hiss arrest, WILL. The PA police where following this guy for five days before his arrest. They could have easilyserched his trash and got dna to see if it was a total match and not just a family member. Not to mention this guy was driving a car of interest. Look your own theory makes no sense, if they got dna at crime scene and matched it to his family dna, then wtf would they wait 5 days, they would arrest immediatly with probable cause. FFS why go through trash, when they can't prove it was his trash. Then they would have haved to arrested The WHOLE fucking family. That's not legal and wasn't the goal. Before these results came back the police had no ideo of who to look at. WITH THESE RESULTS THEY NARROWED TO DOWN TO A FAMILY. THEY HAD TO NARROW DOWN TO WHICH ACTUAL FAMILY MEMBER WAS THE PERP. The clearly got evidence that this guy was the family member who did it. When the arrest affidavit is released we will find out what that was. Dam, whats so hard to understand? Exactly my point. Figure it out. You have just admitted their process is 100 percent flawed and anyone can be arrested based on junk science that doesn't prove shit |
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User ID: 80117407 United States 01/01/2023 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: themessengernevermatters Read my above post moran. Because, the system will be used against you in the end, but the corrupt and criminal within the system will still continue to torture, rape and murder at will. They won't get caught though, the system will just be for the proles. Like it is in China with the CCP. I bet the party heads aren't passing through face scanning cameras and checking QR codes. Today, murders and rapists; tomorrow; dissenters, conspiracy theorists, Christians, science tards that don't agree with the propaganda, anyone who believes in antiquated ideas like freedom and personal autonomy, etc. I bet all the dictators and tyrants of all time would agree, what a wonderful system and they wish they would have had it. Your not the sharpest tool in the shed. Are you? Totalitarian regimes wouldn't even need to fuck around with DNA, you would just disappear one day. No your shitting your pants for some reason. Did you leave so DNA somewhere you shouldn't have? Sharper than you. The fact is the most totalitarian government on the face of the planet at this time; China, is developing and using all these systems; face and gait tracking cameras, buying and building a massive DNA database, social credit systems and QR codes. Of course they want those systems, it makes their tyranny more efficient and secure from revolution. As far as it never being abused like a lot of you morans keep claiming, there has been many examples and scandals over the past years with state crime labs falsifying and planting evidence. The systems are only as reliable and secure as the leaders of the government and they have all become criminal and corrupt globalist lackeys. Of course you think the system will never be used against you, until it is. But that is because you are all short sighted naïve Pollyannaish morans. Exactly right. These idiots that are promoting send your dna to China are bots trying to get people to think that is a good idea. They come out and say it solves crimes when in fact it does not, if dna is at a crime scene they still have go prove how it got there. But idiots think that because dna was there the crime is solved. Again, they still have to prove how your dna got there, just because it is there doesn't mean it wasn't planted there. “The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.” Elena Gorokhova, A Mountain of Crumbs |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82030106 United States 01/01/2023 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: themessengernevermatters Read my above post moran. Because, the system will be used against you in the end, but the corrupt and criminal within the system will still continue to torture, rape and murder at will. They won't get caught though, the system will just be for the proles. Like it is in China with the CCP. I bet the party heads aren't passing through face scanning cameras and checking QR codes. Today, murders and rapists; tomorrow; dissenters, conspiracy theorists, Christians, science tards that don't agree with the propaganda, anyone who believes in antiquated ideas like freedom and personal autonomy, etc. I bet all the dictators and tyrants of all time would agree, what a wonderful system and they wish they would have had it. I've never heard once that dna convicted anyone falsely. It's the other way around and it also frees alot of people falsely imprisoned. Exactly. Its also Identfied remains of victims who couldn't be identified through the usual methods. Take 911 as example. people were destroyed beyond being able to use dental record or finger prints. The used DNA to at least give the family some remains to bury and confirm their loved ones death. The fact this poster is getting so upset is highly suspect. Yeah suspect me all you want moran. The reason I am speaking out about it is because the tyranny they are building will be sold as safety and security. The fact is it would be a real safe world if everyone was locked down in their cubicles and only let out to work at the state factory and if every activity down to taking a shower were watched by big brother. You could be a safe little rat in your safe little cage. Well right up until one of the corrupt cats running the system decides they don't like you. They of course will miraculously escape the all the surveillance, because they run it, they own it and they control it. Enjoy what freedom you all have left geniuses. It's going to all end soon. They are building out the global surveillance grid right now everyday and you are helping them build it. One brick at a time. Finally, Someone that gets it. Thank you for being you. And indeed it is just like all the social media platforms they created to track and plant, and all the idiots signed right up for it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84274220 United States 01/01/2023 12:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like bullshit since these kits are nothing but what the purchaser chooses to use as their name when they send it in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84301473 You can literally swab someone then put someone else's name on the paperwork that they enter into their Chinese database. This is why these kits aren't used in courts, but the police can use it to get a warrant. Sounds shady af. Most people use their name even though they might have a nickname for purposes of the maps and whatnot. But the thing is, I did Ancestry.Com years ago. I have hundreds of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th cousins who have also done that. So if they have DNA from a crime, they can zero in on the branch the DNA came from given all the data they have on file for people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76389541 United States 01/01/2023 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm all for using dna to catch murderers and rapists. Why would you people be against that? Quoting: NDFarm If Everyone's would be on file most crimes would be solved within hours. Read my above post moran. Because, the system will be used against you in the end, but the corrupt and criminal within the system will still continue to torture, rape and murder at will. They won't get caught though, the system will just be for the proles. Like it is in China with the CCP. I bet the party heads aren't passing through face scanning cameras and checking QR codes. Today, murders and rapists; tomorrow; dissenters, conspiracy theorists, Christians, science tards that don't agree with the propaganda, anyone who believes in antiquated ideas like freedom and personal autonomy, etc. I bet all the dictators and tyrants of all time would agree, what a wonderful system and they wish they would have had it. Your not the sharpest tool in the shed. Are you? Totalitarian regimes wouldn't even need to fuck around with DNA, you would just disappear one day. No your shitting your pants for some reason. Did you leave so DNA somewhere you shouldn't have? Sharper than you. The fact is the most totalitarian government on the face of the planet at this time; China, is developing and using all these systems; face and gait tracking cameras, buying and building a massive DNA database, social credit systems and QR codes. Of course they want those systems, it makes their tyranny more efficient and secure from revolution. As far as it never being abused like a lot of you morans keep claiming, there has been many examples and scandals over the past years with state crime labs falsifying and planting evidence. The systems are only as reliable and secure as the leaders of the government and they have all become criminal and corrupt globalist lackeys. Of course you think the system will never be used against you, until it is. But that is because you are all short sighted naïve Pollyannaish morans. Noone said tools and methods couldnt be abused you fucking moran. Ballastics can prove if a gun fired a bullet. But that gun could be planted on someone. so, we dont use ballistics anymore? Witnesses can ID a perp, but Witnesses could lie. Do we not take Witness testimony anymore? Guns and Knives can be be used for protection, security, ect, but the also can be abused and used for bad purposes. Do we outlaw the all. Whats your actual fucking point? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82030106 United States 01/01/2023 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like bullshit since these kits are nothing but what the purchaser chooses to use as their name when they send it in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84301473 You can literally swab someone then put someone else's name on the paperwork that they enter into their Chinese database. This is why these kits aren't used in courts, but the police can use it to get a warrant. Sounds shady af. Most people use their name even though they might have a nickname for purposes of the maps and whatnot. But the thing is, I did Ancestry.Com years ago. I have hundreds of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th cousins who have also done that. So if they have DNA from a crime, they can zero in on the branch the DNA came from given all the data they have on file for people. Dna at a crime scene doesn't prove anything other than dna is at a crime scene. They still have to prove how the dna got there. If not, everyone could be framed. |
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User ID: 76388104 United States 01/01/2023 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Can you believe he once looked like this? I saw a few articles that show this photo. Doesn't even resemble the same guy! Photo here (click on "continue reading" then keep scrolling down): [link to www.msn.com (secure)] |