Hand Minted Local Currencies could be the Start of Local Economic Redemption | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60123079 United States 01/05/2023 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Daozen
(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No.. new global money system of gold backed currencies is a fact. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60123079 No? Under what authority are you speaking? Do you have any authority to stop me from experimenting? Do you even have permission to be in this world? Take a softer, more humble tone, and we might get on better. Multiple systems might work in parallel. It's healthiest for everyone. Competition. Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
Daozen
(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 05:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No.. new global money system of gold backed currencies is a fact. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60123079 When will the Tungsten Digital Pay Network (TDPN) be rolled out? Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83892304 01/05/2023 05:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No.. new global money system of gold backed currencies is a fact. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60123079 There are Goldbacks, but they're not accepted currency for payment of taxes or debt or commerce. They might one day be accepted currency, probably in Utah and Idaho [link to www.goldback.com (secure)] |
Daozen
(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 05:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Breaking News From: Doozle To: NM Rothschild Sub: Bleak King Wenceslas ***** Lord Rothschild, I trust you had a good Xmas. Please tell Andy and Merv that PetroDoozle (DOOZ)) will float on all bourses from Feb 1st, 2023. Soft-rollout / 2 week grace-period til Feb 15th, then Hard Doozle Rollout (HDR) thereon in. There will be NO grandfathering this time. I trust you all to work out the details. Faithfully, Daozen ~O~ Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
Daozen
(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No.. new global money system of gold backed currencies is a fact. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60123079 There are Goldbacks, but they're not accepted currency for payment of taxes or debt or commerce. They might one day be accepted currency, probably in Utah and Idaho [link to www.goldback.com (secure)] How can they block commerce? Are you guys bondslaves? Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/05/2023 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Contrary to popular conspiracy thinking, local currencies are legal. There are hundreds worldwide. Quoting: Daozen [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] And contrary to your way of thinking it's a fucking NIGHTMARE! -Going back to the early 1800's, there were so many different currencies floating around that in the old west most places preferred gold coins or "specie" -gold dust itself- that accepted at a high rate than currency due to uncertainty of that paper's value. And up until the 1930's national bank notes were issued in cities all across the country that didn't exactly streamline the national economy. That's when the Federal bank notes we know today were created to standardize the entire system. |
Daozen
(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Geotag Uniform Mobile Pay network (GUMP) will be rolled out in 2024. Brain-chips for everyone. Huzzah! Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
Daozen
(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Contrary to popular conspiracy thinking, local currencies are legal. There are hundreds worldwide. Quoting: Daozen [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] And contrary to your way of thinking it's a fucking NIGHTMARE! -Going back to the early 1800's, there were so many different currencies floating around that in the old west most places preferred gold coins or "specie" -gold dust itself- that accepted at a high rate than currency due to uncertainty of that paper's value. And up until the 1930's national bank notes were issued in cities all across the country that didn't exactly streamline the national economy. That's when the Federal bank notes we know today were created to standardize the entire system. Well its certainly an honour to be surrounded by so many currency experts. To be fair, I realized something similar. Notes are easily fraudable, and therefore a no go. OTOH, Cashless is a True Nightmare. So, how do we walk the line between the Fiat Debacle and the Cashless Nightmare? The way forward: A mixture of digital pay AND locally-issued coins. These are perfickly legal, and basically hipster meal tokens, so please no one even start on the legal aspect. Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
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(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How do we deal with fraud etc? 1) Research point of sale verification systems, ancient and new. 2) Keep average value to a 3 dollar coin, making it (hopefully) not worth the while to counterfeit. 3) Serial numbers, about which no more will be said publicly. 4) Keep project open source, small scale and advisory, like DHH or Linus, so I can't be blamed if it doesn't work. LOL! They would easily want me to front for a crypto exchange, pull the plug, and stitch me up publicly, probably for a feckin ten stretch. No such luck, guvnor. Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81687668 United States 01/05/2023 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a local currency or sorts up here in the iron range of MN though seldom used anymore since everyone just pays with cards. They are similar to Poker chips with the name of the establishment you bought it from. These poker chips can be used at any participating business and prices at one beer per chip. I realize lots of bars have their own poker chip thing. This is difference since a chip bought at one bar can be used at any bar in the region. Over the years the price per chip has went up. But chips bought for 50 cents in the 80s still buys you one beer in 2023. So theoretically there's no beer inflation. |
Daozen
(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's what we need. Homebrewed coins. [link to cd.textfiles.com] Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
Daozen
(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 06:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's what we need. Homebrewed coins. [link to cd.textfiles.com] Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
GSB/LTD
User ID: 8080014 United States 01/05/2023 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Contrary to popular conspiracy thinking, local currencies are legal. There are hundreds worldwide. Quoting: Daozen [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] And contrary to your way of thinking it's a fucking NIGHTMARE! -Going back to the early 1800's, there were so many different currencies floating around that in the old west most places preferred gold coins or "specie" -gold dust itself- that accepted at a high rate than currency due to uncertainty of that paper's value. And up until the 1930's national bank notes were issued in cities all across the country that didn't exactly streamline the national economy. That's when the Federal bank notes we know today were created to standardize the entire system. Well its certainly an honour to be surrounded by so many currency experts. To be fair, I realized something similar. Notes are easily fraudable, and therefore a no go. OTOH, Cashless is a True Nightmare. So, how do we walk the line between the Fiat Debacle and the Cashless Nightmare? The way forward: A mixture of digital pay AND locally-issued coins. These are perfickly legal, and basically hipster meal tokens, so please no one even start on the legal aspect. NICE TRY to tap-dance around the "legal aspect" but that's entirely what your lunatic scheme boils down to: ONLY the federal government can issue coinage/currency. PERIOD. And that's the only thing that matters in this moot discussion. Incidentally: "fraudable" is not a word and "perfect" is not spelled "perfick"... but at least you tried. |
Daozen
(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a local currency or sorts up here in the iron range of MN though seldom used anymore since everyone just pays with cards. They are similar to Poker chips with the name of the establishment you bought it from. These poker chips can be used at any participating business and prices at one beer per chip. I realize lots of bars have their own poker chip thing. This is difference since a chip bought at one bar can be used at any bar in the region. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81687668 Over the years the price per chip has went up. But chips bought for 50 cents in the 80s still buys you one beer in 2023. So theoretically there's no beer inflation. I want to go exactly along these lines at first. Cheers. The aim is to prove-the-concept in 5 street food stalls, and scale on Github. If only 1% of people used them, I'd be fine. I really just like to prototype at ground level. The key is to get them Suitcase-Out-Of-Pulp-Fiction awesome looking. I said last night, what would a coin issued by Apple or Musk look like? Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
Daozen
(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NICE TRY to tap-dance around the "legal aspect" but that's entirely what your lunatic scheme boils down to: ONLY the federal government can issue coinage/currency. PERIOD. And that's the only thing that matters in this moot discussion. Quoting: GSB/LTD Incidentally: "fraudable" is not a word and "perfect" is not spelled "perfick"... but at least you tried. First: F**k off with your patronizing tone. There are HUNDREDS of local currencies in circulation in America, you stupid f**king inculcated fool. You are, BTW, the reason Whitey-Knows-Best doesn't get hired, and your dipshit economy is in tatters. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] You're telling me I don't have the legal right to press up 5 coins, and use them as food stall tokens? Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
Daozen
(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well. Yuh. of course, Bastian. Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
Daozen
(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Glad I could create so many jobs in your industry. That Greek guy was right, I need to improve that tinny bass. I can see why Lord R etc call me mediocre. Fact is, I developed all these three star Jack-Of-All-Trades skill sets under a lot of pressure. I had a boatload of responsibilities dropped on my lap, and i had to learn to spin 10 plates at once. I wonder if I could get this mastered on Fiverr. i knew a guy who could work wonders for 10 bucks. [link to codepen.io (secure)] Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
Daozen
(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I need to Reread Lord R's seminal post about brands. That was the only time he got the caustic-nutritional balance he'd been looking for. Other times, the ratio is off. It made me laugh so hard I saved it. ht***** tps://github.com/Morning***** star88/Low-Grid/blob/main/LORD-RUPERT-STUMBLE.md I told him something about Strychnine and Myrrh over Xmas. He got all withering over it. If he daydreams on the fulcrum of those two nouns, he may find his place in Creation. 30% Strychnine. 70% Myrrh. 7:3 Most of you have those ratios inverted at best. Hence the problem Here. I'm hoping he comes in this thread, with his signature catchphrase, so we can all cheer like it's a Christmas Panto. Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
Daozen
(OP) User ID: 85064037 Taiwan 01/05/2023 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ht***** tps://github.com/Morning ***** star88/X-Coin/blob/main/README.md Letter to Shopkeeper Dear Shopkeeper, We would like to pay 2 x credit in your store, 2 x 100 meals. Is that possible? After we pre-pay 200TWD, someone will come with a wooden token that looks like this. PIC This is for an experimental app. Please let us know if you are intrested Best Wishes, Morningstar (Foundation) Last Edited by Daozen on 01/05/2023 08:39 PM Daozen appears to be mentally impaired, but harmless. Attention! You are in a Private Universe. Simulation Terms of Service: h t t p s ://godlikemidnight . vercel . app The world is a feeling. "The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84198874 United States 01/05/2023 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Credit is more important than whatever is used to settle out accounts. Own or have a vested ownership position; there is a working example in the Basque region of Spain. Some clues can be found here: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 99) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84198874 United States 01/05/2023 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Time tokens as money; study out what the Ithaca Hours system is doing. [link to www.ithaca.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84198874 United States 01/05/2023 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84198874 United States 01/05/2023 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stephen DeMeulenaere; one of the smartest guys out there in the complementary currency movement. He is from BC Canada but currently lives in Thailand. [link to www.complementarycurrency.org (secure)] Stephen speaks and writes several languages and has traveled to South America consulting alternative currency projects. Another fellow who has traveled widely and consulted with many people is Thomas Greco. Several websites are associated with his writings and audio/video presentations. Greco has several books in print. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 60123079 United States 01/05/2023 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No.. new global money system of gold backed currencies is a fact. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60123079 No? Under what authority are you speaking? Do you have any authority to stop me from experimenting? Do you even have permission to be in this world? Take a softer, more humble tone, and we might get on better. Multiple systems might work in parallel. It's healthiest for everyone. Competition. the authority of the ones who created. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84198874 United States 01/05/2023 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Literature related to reinventing money: [link to reinventingmoney.com (secure)] Read the two Dr Popp books; they are short. And the Reigel material on a mutual credit proposal. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84198874 United States 01/05/2023 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | F.A. von Hayek advised competition in monetary systems back in the 1950s - 1960s. He was part of the Austrian school of economics. He was completely correct and only missed identifying a couple of important permutations. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84198874 United States 01/05/2023 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some history; A Comparative Chronology of Money [link to projects.exeter.ac.uk (secure)] Wikipedia on the origin of the word "dollar" is of some educational value. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84198874 United States 01/05/2023 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paul Grignon of British Columbia Canada has developed a number of cartoon videos that are FREE and published as topics in playlists. Download them and use his cartoons to promote your project. Be sure to give Paul credit as he has done a lot of work on his project. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] One sample; How to Create Producer Credits: |