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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85066585 United States 01/06/2023 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Add a generator that puts charge back into the battery while you drive. It can't be that hard, can it? Quoting: bigD111 Have you never heard of Hybrid, for example the Toyota Prius. The gas engine powers the car and the batteries are charged during deceleration and braking, reclaiming kinetic energy that would otherwise be wasted. Anything else would be totally inefficient due to weight and thermal inefficiencies pointlessly converting one form of energy to another. An idiot would understand this (then I saw the yellow star). and instead of the Tesla .. Elon should have just kept the hybrids and improved them maybe. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85066566 Germany 01/06/2023 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember seeing some prototype cars that had mini turbines at the front where the lower lights would be (or in addition to). I also conversed briefly a few years ago with a guy who placed a wind turbine on the top of the car - he was still experimenting with it but admitted it probably wasn't practical (it was a BIG turbine in relation to the car). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78268007 It seemed like an interesting idea, but is probably not practical because in order to generate enough power to effectively charge the batteries it would have to be so large as to generate a negative amount of drag and also it's additional complexity and expense. Covering a car in solar panels has also be considered but again suffers from similar problems. takes a simple generator on the axels which rotate. flywheel battery... |
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Xuki
User ID: 72417015 United States 01/06/2023 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Simple. The same reason that Ford is not allowed to sell its 1.8ltr diesel in the U.S. that gets 75mpg. Money and control. Why does the gov. push for electric so hard? Who do you purchase your electricity from? Ever wonder why the charge only applies when braking and not from the four rotating tires that could keep it perpetually charged or at least stretch a charge out to maybe a couple of thousand miles between charge ups? Money and control. The same reason everything in life costs you out the yingyang and you are forever a labor slave. The reason they do not let us live for free you ask? Well, just look to the group in the U.S. that does live for free. Hell, that group burnt down a lot of towns in the past few years. Now think if we all lived for free as well. My guess is the new free shit crowd would end up killing the original free shit crowd and withing a year or so revert back to the original way the country was to be run. So, the commies will only keep the original animals so to use them to keep on destroying this nation. "If you gotta eat a turd eat it fast." |
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Weisshaupt
User ID: 77077464 United States 01/06/2023 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Add a generator that puts charge back into the battery while you drive. It can't be that hard, can it? Quoting: bigD111 That is called a hybrid and they have had them available for sale for over a decade. If the battery tech was decent it would be awesome The battery tech sucks, and you end up making the vehicle WAAAY heavier and having to replace the battery after 16 years of use ( you need to drive an electric vehicle for 60,000 just to alleviate the footprint of the battery as it comes to you n the new car- hybrids take longer since they still burn gasoline) If we had battery tech that didn't involve rare earth mining and resulted in the same storage capacity in something that was 50% lighter, then you would have something. plasma battery's might fix it but it's illegal to use them This I am unfamiliar with.. the link here showing a "plasma battery" doesn't seem to be storing any power - it seems to be a normal electrode discharge through air.. Any links with actual schematics? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85066566 Germany 01/06/2023 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Add a generator that puts charge back into the battery while you drive. It can't be that hard, can it? Quoting: bigD111 That is called a hybrid and they have had them available for sale for over a decade. If the battery tech was decent it would be awesome The battery tech sucks, and you end up making the vehicle WAAAY heavier and having to replace the battery after 16 years of use ( you need to drive an electric vehicle for 60,000 just to alleviate the footprint of the battery as it comes to you n the new car- hybrids take longer since they still burn gasoline) If we had battery tech that didn't involve rare earth mining and resulted in the same storage capacity in something that was 50% lighter, then you would have something. plasma battery's might fix it but it's illegal to use them This I am unfamiliar with.. the link here showing a "plasma battery" doesn't seem to be storing any power - it seems to be a normal electrode discharge through air.. Any links with actual schematics? it's roughly explanation how it supposed to work you won't be able to market it.. Thread: Researcher died suddenly... compilation |
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Weisshaupt
User ID: 77077464 United States 01/06/2023 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I remember seeing some prototype cars that had mini turbines at the front where the lower lights would be (or in addition to). I also conversed briefly a few years ago with a guy who placed a wind turbine on the top of the car - he was still experimenting with it but admitted it probably wasn't practical (it was a BIG turbine in relation to the car). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78268007 It seemed like an interesting idea, but is probably not practical because in order to generate enough power to effectively charge the batteries it would have to be so large as to generate a negative amount of drag and also it's additional complexity and expense. Covering a car in solar panels has also be considered but again suffers from similar problems. Electric cars have at least 60Kw-H of storage int he battery. A typical modern 3'x6' solar panel will produce around 400 watts. You can get maybe 2 of those on a car-- even if you print them to conform with the shape ( they have printable solar panels now) Solar panels in the best climates will get 5 hours of full production - so printer on a car you are looking at maybe 5 Kw-Hr of production at the VERY BEST. - about 1/10 of the charge on a small battery. (solar cells perform worse with heat and cars get hot) I mean take the 1/10 but you aren't going to drive far daily on that |
Weisshaupt
User ID: 77077464 United States 01/06/2023 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Add a Quoting: bigD111 ^^^^ Fixed it for you OP. Good point; there's definitely a way around the 2nd law of thermodynamics; it's 2023 for cripes sake Yah a generator is a alternator attached to a gas engine....oh. |
Weisshaupt
User ID: 77077464 United States 01/06/2023 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Weisshaupt That is called a hybrid and they have had them available for sale for over a decade. If the battery tech was decent it would be awesome The battery tech sucks, and you end up making the vehicle WAAAY heavier and having to replace the battery after 16 years of use ( you need to drive an electric vehicle for 60,000 just to alleviate the footprint of the battery as it comes to you n the new car- hybrids take longer since they still burn gasoline) If we had battery tech that didn't involve rare earth mining and resulted in the same storage capacity in something that was 50% lighter, then you would have something. plasma battery's might fix it but it's illegal to use them This I am unfamiliar with.. the link here showing a "plasma battery" doesn't seem to be storing any power - it seems to be a normal electrode discharge through air.. Any links with actual schematics? it's roughly explanation how it supposed to work you won't be able to market it.. Thread: Researcher died suddenly... compilation wrong link? That appear to be the recent why files ARV episode ( awesome but no description of a plasma generator -- unless you want to talk about the mercury vortex plasma..) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85066566 Germany 01/06/2023 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This I am unfamiliar with.. the link here showing a "plasma battery" doesn't seem to be storing any power - it seems to be a normal electrode discharge through air.. Any links with actual schematics? it's roughly explanation how it supposed to work you won't be able to market it.. Thread: Researcher died suddenly... compilation wrong link? That appear to be the recent why files ARV episode ( awesome but no description of a plasma generator -- unless you want to talk about the mercury vortex plasma..) there is none online on the web... people are getting smarter... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85066791 Panama 01/06/2023 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Add a Quoting: bigD111 ^^^^ Fixed it for you OP. Good point; there's definitely a way around the 2nd law of thermodynamics; it's 2023 for cripes sake Yah a generator is a alternator attached to a gas engine....oh. Alternators use centrifugal force to create energy to charge batteries. Generators function differently and although the end result is the same, the terms aren't mutually exclusive. |
Remedial_Rebel
User ID: 78258400 United States 01/06/2023 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AOC to save the day. Just plug the car into this. Last Edited by Remedial_Rebel on 01/06/2023 04:18 PM |
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bigD111
(OP) User ID: 81114246 United States 01/06/2023 04:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stfu idiot. Explain to all of us why batteries cant be charged while driving? you'd need a generator the same size as the vehicle to keep the battery from discharging while driving That did occur to me, maybe it would be too large, but maybe they could design a small one that puts out more juice. Just thinking out loud and thought I would ask this question. deplorably republican |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5461667 United States 01/06/2023 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When there is no load applied, a generator is easy to turn. Load is like an electric device using energy to do work, say, a blender chopping ice or an electric motor pulling a car. As the load increases, the generator becomes more and more difficult to turn. No electrical device, be it a generator, alternator, rectifier, motor or a blender, is 100% efficient. Not even close. So more work must be done turning the generator than the electricity produced could have done. While a car's engine can recharge its battery, that battery is not pulling the car. It runs the lights and ignition system with all the torque necessary to turn it from the powerful gas engine. Hooking a generator to a wheel would only increase the load on the primary battery while replacing less energy than it used in the process. Your EV's range would be seriously reduced. IOW, there is no free lunch. |
bigD111
(OP) User ID: 81114246 United States 01/06/2023 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Add a generator that puts charge back into the battery while you drive. It can't be that hard, can it? Quoting: bigD111 Have you never heard of Hybrid, for example the Toyota Prius. The gas engine powers the car and the batteries are charged during deceleration and braking, reclaiming kinetic energy that would otherwise be wasted. Anything else would be totally inefficient due to weight and thermal inefficiencies pointlessly converting one form of energy to another. An idiot would understand this (then I saw the yellow star). What about a hydraulic system that would power the generator every time the vehicle moved? Maybe it couldn't recharge the whole battery, but it would be cool to get 50% back wouldn't it? deplorably republican |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78228922 United States 01/06/2023 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Add a generator that puts charge back into the battery while you drive. It can't be that hard, can it? Quoting: bigD111 You already know the answer to that one. it's already been proven endlessly for decades that free energy not only exists but has for a long time and should have freed us all up to advance as a civilzation a century ago. but no. money grubbing power tripping greedy little control freak shitstains can't have that. THAT is why. THAT is why that doesn't exist. cause money. lol as ridiculous as it all is and has become. that's why. still. world's a prison man. sad truth. until that parasitic pyramid scheme goes away, we're all trapped in it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83423914 United States 01/06/2023 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why can't they just have the electricity come from the road itself like they do with slotcars? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83423914 it can't be that hard, right? architecture to expensive you need to repair it every month/year only and true way is to use ionized air as conductive layer Tesla/Pharaoh Egypt did it before Hey German man - See: IRONY |