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Cosmonauts Will Use Stricken Soyuz MS-22 in the Event of Emergency

 
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The Soyuz MS-22 spacecraft leaked all of its coolant after a micro-meteoroid/orbital debris strike damaged the external radiator system. The temperatures inside the vehicle would reach in excess of 40 degrees C (104 F) if they were to close the hatch, and this combined with rapidly climbing humidity levels would make it unbearable in a pressure suit. The plan is to send up the next Soyuz in automatic mode with no one in it in order to replace the damaged Soyuz and give the one American astronaut (Frank Rubio) and two cosmonauts a new vehicle to ride home. In the meantime though, there needs to be a plan in place in case there's an emergency that requires the crew to immediately evacuate the station.

This does not always mean they actually undock and return to earth; this can sometimes involve getting in the capsules without departing. For instance, if they detect there's a risk of collision between the station and a piece of large debris but the risk isn't discovered until it's minutes from happening, there isn't time to maneuver the station out of the way. There have been times they've needed to get in the capsules and seal the hatches in case the station's main segments are hit and rapidly depressurize, as this would protect the crew and allow them to leave the station. Of course one of the capsules might get hit, but it's a smaller target and there's always at least two capsules docked these days, so only one would be lost.

Russia has decided for political reasons to require the two cosmonauts who flew up on the MS-22 capsule to use that now-damaged vehicle in the event of an emergency, even though the SpaceX Dragon was originally designed to be capable of holding up to seven people. This politically driven decision would not even prevent all of their cosmonauts from being seen to rely on an American spacecraft for evacuation; Russian cosmonaut Anna Kikina is currently on ISS after launching on the Dragon in a seat-swap that allowed Frank Rubio to ride up on the Soyuz. She will land with the Dragon, whether at the end of a nominal mission or in an emergency. There's no seat liner for her for the Soyuz, her swapping with Rubio isn't really an option. Rubio, on the other hand, is moving his seat into the Dragon. Soyuz seat liners are detachable in-flight, and they're each individually molded to the exact shape of the person who will be using it.

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Obviously this wasn't designed to attach in the Dragon, but no doubt they've been working on a way to hack together a temporary solution.

You can see the SpaceX Crew-5 Dragon and the stricken Soyuz MS-22 vehicle in my latest video tracking ISS which I filmed on Tuesday morning:

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TLDR..



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Few things are more infuriating than some idiot posting "TLDR" then going on to comment on the thread. If you can't read, you shouldn't post your dumbass opinion either.
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Makes me wonder what the dynamics are like on board the station. Are the crews even speaking to each other?
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Few things are more infuriating than some idiot posting "TLDR" then going on to comment on the thread. If you can't read, you shouldn't post your dumbass opinion either.
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You are a presumptuous cunt!
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I didn't "presume" that you were a passive aggressive idiot who doesn't bother reading. You ARE. If it doesn't interest you, move on instead posting irrelevant drivel.
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Kessler Syndrome on the horizon?
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Kessler Syndrome on the horizon?
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Not quite
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Kessler Syndrome on the horizon?
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Not quite
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Pretty soon we'll make outer space uninhabitable.

way'da go guys,.
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Makes me wonder what the dynamics are like on board the station. Are the crews even speaking to each other?
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If they aren't, they are a bunch of idiots.
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Kessler Syndrome on the horizon?
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Not quite
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Pretty soon we'll make outer space uninhabitable.

way'da go guys,.
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I'll wager the farm that Elon Musk once overheard the insignificant voice of a minor technician almost inaudibly
mention Kessler syndrome while on his smokebreak with another
minor technician as Musk briskly strode past on important business.
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They must be using JB Weld to fix the problem...

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Ummm.......so what about the micro-meteorites? Seems they are capable of taking out spacecraft and was the reason for this failure, but yet the cause itself was only mentioned once in the artcle.
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They must be using JB Weld to fix the problem...

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I actually have some first hand experience with some hardware flying on ISS which has parts JB welded in place. Blew my mind the first time I saw that they literally just used JB weld to put it together. It was prototyped hardware for the shuttle program to start with, they wanted a new version with expanded capabilities for ISS with some additional hardware, so they essentially cut holes where they needed it and JB welded the additional hardware in place.
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Ummm.......so what about the micro-meteorites? Seems they are capable of taking out spacecraft and was the reason for this failure, but yet the cause itself was only mentioned once in the artcle.
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What about it? MMOD impacts do happen to ISS, but it has to be at just the right spot to hit the line and cause the leak in the radiator. If you visit space shuttle Atlantis you can see little dents covered by circular patches up and down the radiators on the inside of the payload bay doors. They were fortunate in that none of the impacts hit the lines running under those panels.


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what kind of a satellite briefly stops traversing the sky and can be seen wandering on its course with varying speed?
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Ummm.......so what about the micro-meteorites? Seems they are capable of taking out spacecraft and was the reason for this failure, but yet the cause itself was only mentioned once in the artcle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34110068


What about it? MMOD impacts do happen to ISS, but it has to be at just the right spot to hit the line and cause the leak in the radiator. If you visit space shuttle Atlantis you can see little dents covered by circular patches up and down the radiators on the inside of the payload bay doors. They were fortunate in that none of the impacts hit the lines running under those panels.


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yay for valves!
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Re: Cosmonauts Will Use Stricken Soyuz MS-22 in the Event of Emergency
I just re-watched "Gravity" again the other night.

Slow night...



*and, as always, Clooney's hair looked FANTASTIC


 
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I just re-watched "Gravity" again the other night.

Slow night...



*and, as always, Clooney's hair looked FANTASTIC


 
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clooney really does make space look good.
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:trekright: :cage: :mccoy bounce:
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...Gravity,,,
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Re: Cosmonauts Will Use Stricken Soyuz MS-22 in the Event of Emergency
imagine being stuck on an island,

imagine being stuck on a boat.

imagine being stuck in a shipping container.

imagine being stuck in a shipping container on a boat.

imagine being stuck in a shipping container underwater.

now imagine that shipping container was in space.

do you still want to be stuck inside it?
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Is there a smoking section?
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i can understand travelling through space to get somewhere. but just sitting there twiddling your thumbs and being told to duck when space debris incoming doesn't sound like fun to me.
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Is there a smoking section?
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we've not advanced to that stage yet
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Re: Cosmonauts Will Use Stricken Soyuz MS-22 in the Event of Emergency
They were debating sending a Musk dragon rocket up to rescue them.

I guess they decided to wait another month and use a Soyuz.

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why don't they open the door to the movie studio and walk right out?
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i can understand travelling through space to get somewhere. but just sitting there twiddling your thumbs and being told to duck when space debris incoming doesn't sound like fun to me.
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Supposedly they have some armoring they provide in the high value areas like the occupied areas. But the giant solar arrays and thermal radiators are left to fend for themselves. Can't afford to armor everything.
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Makes me wonder what the dynamics are like on board the station. Are the crews even speaking to each other?
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Crew dynamics...

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Is there a smoking section?
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we've not advanced to that stage yet
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Re: Cosmonauts Will Use Stricken Soyuz MS-22 in the Event of Emergency
So the Russians will be baked alive if they have to evacuate on MS-22?

104° isn't that hot but how much hotter will it get, especially during re-entry?

I think they really need to have a back up for the back up with a back up.

Also, I can't believe there isn't a rescue rocket ready to launch within minutes of an emergency.

I'd love to go though.

I hope Bezos gets his shit together for real space tourism.

Your own small cabin, a space suit to go for walk. Hell maybe Lazer tag with another bunch of passengers on another space bus!

Buck Rogers!
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Is there a smoking section?
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we've not advanced to that stage yet
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https://imgur.com/a/7qaN3Lf

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Any section she was in was the sssmokin section. :)
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