An interesting take on the difference between Religion and Spirituality | |
cosmicgypsy
(OP) User ID: 80037766 United States 01/13/2023 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The wind blows where it wishes. You hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.” The simplicity of this is beautifully stunning. Thank you, lovey.... You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Ghalleon
User ID: 84866624 United States 01/30/2023 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "A slave is easier to control when he is kept in constant fear & terror and doesn't know he's a slave!" WWIII; The War for the human mind! "Our contest is not against flesh and blood; but rather, the authorities of the universe and the souls of wickedness!" |
Ghalleon
User ID: 84866624 United States 01/30/2023 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Posted by the Anonymous in this thread; Religion is Accepting Authority, Spirituality is Freedom of Choice Religion is Obedience, Spirituality is Questioning Religion is Blind Faith, Spirituality is Rationalism Religion is for Close Minded, Spirituality is for Open Minded Religion is Organized Belief, Spirituality is Logical Conclusions Religions follow Designated Gods, Spirituality need not Religion has strict codes, Spirituality has self made codes Religion Forces people, Spirituality is self Discipline Religion has Group Identity, Spirituality is Individuality Religion suits all, Spirituality suits only Evolved Religion is Single System, Spirituality Multi System derived Religious people are Spiritual, Spiritual people need not be Religious Religion is Religion, Spirituality is beyond all Religions Religions may create Divisions, Spirituality is for one and all Not all religions accept other religions, Spirituality embraces all By birth one takes up a Religion; By birth you don't take up Spirituality Destination is same, Approaches are different, Choice is yours... -- gachchy "A slave is easier to control when he is kept in constant fear & terror and doesn't know he's a slave!" WWIII; The War for the human mind! "Our contest is not against flesh and blood; but rather, the authorities of the universe and the souls of wickedness!" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76667064 United States 01/30/2023 01:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm honestly not trying to open up a can of worms and incite a fight on this thread, but I know it's like to ensue. Quoting: cosmicgypsy I just read this take on the difference between the two, and thought it was spot on, in a fair way-- Religion expects you to learn from other people's experiences, spirituality expects you to obtain your own personal experience. Religion hates spirituality. Religion encourages you to study other people's opinions and eventually accept them as your own. Spirituality expects you to investigate, organize, and receive the truth and views from within yourself with no exterior influence, which usually all stem from fear. --and the above is said by a Rabbi, a very old Rabbi. The above quote is from the book Rays of Light, and the book can found here, although I myself have only just started reading it-- [link to unifyd.tv (secure)] There's a whole lot of backstory behind this book, but I'm not going to go into that....heh, I'd really be writing a long time trying to explain, and not only that, but it'd take that can of worms, and throw them on everyone....lol. But it's true, my Christian friends are always warning off such practices as Kundalini risings, and receiving messages from anyone that isn't Christ or God or Mother Mary, or whatever acceptable entity there is that religion deems okay....channeling? That's the work of the devil, don't you know? Of course, not all channeling is well and sound, but neither are all teachings of the Christian faith. My Kundalini risings were all drenched in LOVE, and only served to make me a better person, because I learned from those intense feelings of love....and I'm just not even seeing how that comes close to being the product of something satanic. I know what satanic - demonic energy - feels like, and those risings were most definitely not that! Perhaps it is not so black and white. We learn a bit from others as well as learn through personal experiences. Anything that helps us to become evolving humans having greater wisdom and benevolent maturity to make better choices is great, regardless if we call it religion or spiritual. At the initial core of all religions and spiritual systems is pure love. It is human biases through misunderstanding, mistranslation, misinterpretation, exaggeration, embellishment, and ill intent that fractured the initial core teaching into the numerous varieties we have today. And sadly many had been harmed and killed because one group believed it has the better truth than all others. Interesting that the quote you noted was said by a very old Rabbi, with emphasis on very old. It is our human nature to think that the older we are the wiser we get. What if our wisdom is already all within us, and the higher our consciousness the more access we have to that personal knowledge which is stored as multi-dimensional quantum energies in every DNA of each body. In religions, that is the Kingdom of God within. In spiritual systems, that is our Higher Self, the higher energy vibration of oneself. Both refer to the soul that is a part of God/Creative Source/ Prime Creator. Souls are the multi-dimensional quantum energy bridge or interface between us purposely here at low vibration and God/Creative Source/Prime Creator in the highest vibration that is pure love, compassion, benevolence, and joy. In pure love, there will always be unity, inclusion, and equality. Never division, exclusion, and hierarchy. Therefore, we should be careful of any religious or spiritual teachings that put fear in us, belittle us, divide us, confuse us, or instill hierarchy or superiority in us. There are commonalities between religion and spirituality, and so always good to celebrate that and be united rather than to focus on the differences that have the potential to divide us. All the best! Wow! That was beautifully thought provoking. I'm going to read that again tomorrow, to completely digest it....heh, I'm in a mood right now, and just need a night's rest. But I want you to know that I already know it's lovely, and I thank you very much for posting.... :curtsy: The comment about the Rabbi's age is more about the age they're saying he is, rather than his wisdom, which they also say he has. He's supposed to be over 300 years old. Yup, I did just type that.... I realize that's a tough pill to swallow, but I get no red flags or any kind of negative internal reaction about it. It kinda freaked me out a bit, while I was testing the veracity of it, but I'm now okay with the idea that someone could actually live that long in this day and age. It's said he looks like an older man, I think like in his 80's, but that you would say he looked like a very fit older man. It's very interesting information I've been looking at the past few days or so, both reading and watching interviews with a man called Ray. A lot of it is about TLS, The Light System, and this Rabbi is supposed to be one of the leaders of that group. They were responsible for removing a whole lot of children out of the tunnels, A LOT, and still to this day are doing that, plus more I gather. They've blown up some of the tunnels. It's a mostly spiritual group that has been around for I think it's 5,000 years. They work for the Light. The information is something else, that's for sure, and it was so little that was said, was able to be said. Still, there are hours of interview....hours that you don't mind giving up, it's that interesting. But be warned, what he says about the children being rescued from the tunnels is brutal. If anyone is interested, the interviews can be found here. They are the ones called "Disclosure". Parts 1-4 are with "Ray", and the 5th one is with someone called "The Black Widow"-- [link to unifyd.tv (secure)] However, she seems too lively, to bubbly, to be called The Black Widow.... I was turned onto this group not too long ago and began to watch that "ray" video. I made it 15m through and could not come up with a "more of the same" feeling about this so called "light system". If you listen to what the man is saying, it is like he is telling you they are no different than what we currently have, I would encourage people who watch this video to pay close attention to what he says in how the tls operates and ask yourself, does it sound any different than how a covert intelligence agency that we currently have might operate? I turned it off and walked away from looking at that whole group after that 15m I invested. Sketchy to say the least and much like what we have today, you will most likely find truth that resonates mixed with lies. This is conjecture on my part, just hearing that fellow though was enough to turn me off. Soloma369 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 83435645 United States 01/30/2023 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can tell you that experiencing spiritual ecstasy as a Christian is not anything like that. Nothing corporeal and so pleasurable and divine. Quoting: Furrry Pete Got the Holy Ghost and experienced speaking in tongues and inhuman love. It was pure bliss, peace that passes all understanding. Same as Gypsy only happened once. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76667064 United States 01/30/2023 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was turned onto this group not too long ago and began to watch that "ray" video. I made it 15m through and could not come up with a "more of the same" feeling about this so called "light system". If you listen to what the man is saying, it is like he is telling you they are no different than what we currently have, I would encourage people who watch this video to pay close attention to what he says in how the tls operates and ask yourself, does it sound any different than how a covert intelligence agency that we currently have might operate? Quoting: I turned it off and walked away from looking at that whole group after that 15m I invested. Sketchy to say the least and much like what we have today, you will most likely find truth that resonates mixed with lies. This is conjecture on my part, just hearing that fellow though was enough to turn me off. Soloma369 Actually I did sign up for their community message boards looking for discussion and all I found was a echo chamber of people trying to get their message heard with absolutely no discussion to be found. I am very skeptical of this group, however I would agree with the premise of your original post CG and the quote from the "old rabbi". |
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XJDUB
User ID: 75365619 Canada 01/30/2023 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... obtain your own personal experience... investigate, organize, and receive the truth and views from... th... e... h... er... e... and... no... w. Quoting: cosmicgypsy Let the facts fall wherever, whenever, and however they may. INTP - The Logician. 'Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.' - Albert Einstein. |