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ATF Bans Millions of Guns With New Pistol Brace Rule

 
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ATF Bans Millions of Guns With New Pistol Brace Rule
Yesterday evening, the ATF just went ballistic and BANNED many millions of existing AR-style pistols that were LEGALLY purchased and owned. They published their much-awaited "arm brace" rule that essentially means all AR-15s with arm braces are now "Short Barreled Rifles" (SBRs), and you must either register them, destroy them or disassemble / modify them to comply. They've given 120 days before they begin the RAIDS on millions of Americans. This is a war on America:

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Does anyone here have one and if so what do you recommend we do?

I’ve been looking at one on gunbroker and now I’m not sure if I should buy it.
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Throw the stupid "brace" away or get a tax stamp and use a real stock problem solved.
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It will be overturned by the courts just like the bumbstock rule was
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Does anyone here have one and if so what do you recommend we do?

I’ve been looking at one on gunbroker and now I’m not sure if I should buy it.
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i have over 20 and the ATF can go fuck themselves
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Throw the stupid "brace" away or get a tax stamp and use a real stock problem solved.
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That is fucking stupid! Why the hell should i have to register something i legally bought a few years ago, that was approved by the atf and the fbi approved the transfer ? Now i need to spend another $200 for a tax stamp, and abide by a bunch of federal storage requirements, plus home inspections by the atf?

With registration comes confiscation, and they are after all semiautomatic weapons, it is not just this one item

Fuck them, i am buying another one next week, if they want to turn me into a felon retroactively, they will create a world of shit for themselves, they are 10 million people who fall into this category, many like me are veterans


Let’s get the party started
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Does anyone here have one and if so what do you recommend we do?

I’ve been looking at one on gunbroker and now I’m not sure if I should buy it.
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Buy it you PUSS
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The ATF doesn't make law.
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Throw the stupid "brace" away or get a tax stamp and use a real stock problem solved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81773042


That is fucking stupid! Why the hell should i have to register something i legally bought a few years ago, that was approved by the atf and the fbi approved the transfer ? Now i need to spend another $200 for a tax stamp, and abide by a bunch of federal storage requirements, plus home inspections by the atf?

With registration comes confiscation, and they are after all semiautomatic weapons, it is not just this one item

Fuck them, i am buying another one next week, if they want to turn me into a felon retroactively, they will create a world of shit for themselves, they are 10 million people who fall into this category, many like me are veterans


Let’s get the party started
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Yup. They wanna get this BBQ started it seems
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Throw the stupid "brace" away or get a tax stamp and use a real stock problem solved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81773042


That is fucking stupid! Why the hell should i have to register something i legally bought a few years ago, that was approved by the atf and the fbi approved the transfer ? Now i need to spend another $200 for a tax stamp, and abide by a bunch of federal storage requirements, plus home inspections by the atf?

With registration comes confiscation, and they are after all semiautomatic weapons, it is not just this one item

Fuck them, i am buying another one next week, if they want to turn me into a felon retroactively, they will create a world of shit for themselves, they are 10 million people who fall into this category, many like me are veterans


Let’s get the party started
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85110612


There's no tax with this new rule, it's a Gun Registry.

You could say you destroyed it, but if you get caught with it, you're fucked.
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Throw the stupid "brace" away or get a tax stamp and use a real stock problem solved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81773042


That is fucking stupid! Why the hell should i have to register something i legally bought a few years ago, that was approved by the atf and the fbi approved the transfer ? Now i need to spend another $200 for a tax stamp, and abide by a bunch of federal storage requirements, plus home inspections by the atf?

With registration comes confiscation, and they are after all semiautomatic weapons, it is not just this one item

Fuck them, i am buying another one next week, if they want to turn me into a felon retroactively, they will create a world of shit for themselves, they are 10 million people who fall into this category, many like me are veterans


Let’s get the party started
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85110612


There's no tax with this new rule, it's a Gun Registry.

You could say you destroyed it, but if you get caught with it, you're fucked.
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Ha. The only people fucked are the atf if they try to enforce it lolz
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Throw the stupid "brace" away or get a tax stamp and use a real stock problem solved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81773042


That is fucking stupid! Why the hell should i have to register something i legally bought a few years ago, that was approved by the atf and the fbi approved the transfer ? Now i need to spend another $200 for a tax stamp, and abide by a bunch of federal storage requirements, plus home inspections by the atf?

With registration comes confiscation, and they are after all semiautomatic weapons, it is not just this one item

Fuck them, i am buying another one next week, if they want to turn me into a felon retroactively, they will create a world of shit for themselves, they are 10 million people who fall into this category, many like me are veterans


Let’s get the party started
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85110612


Yep they did that in NY years ago , & you sat there saying it will never happen here, screw NY.
Now look, because you did NOY fight like he'll to help NY gun owners now ots at your front door!
Stupid idiots. You should have fought this crap when it landed in NY FIRST! Get you butts into the legal fight I. NY NOW their laws are written weaker than most other states. The court case wins need to happen in NY first!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83995555


This guy is really good, and I go to him first concerning all new gun laws.

Everybody and their brother is going to sue the AFT over this new rule.

The ATF are not law makers, they are tyrannical RULERS, that make rules.

They need to be disbanded, but the odds of that happing are next to none.
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Throw the stupid "brace" away or get a tax stamp and use a real stock problem solved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81773042


That is fucking stupid! Why the hell should i have to register something i legally bought a few years ago, that was approved by the atf and the fbi approved the transfer ? Now i need to spend another $200 for a tax stamp, and abide by a bunch of federal storage requirements, plus home inspections by the atf?

With registration comes confiscation, and they are after all semiautomatic weapons, it is not just this one item

Fuck them, i am buying another one next week, if they want to turn me into a felon retroactively, they will create a world of shit for themselves, they are 10 million people who fall into this category, many like me are veterans


Let’s get the party started
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clappa
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Throw the stupid "brace" away or get a tax stamp and use a real stock problem solved.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81773042


That is fucking stupid! Why the hell should i have to register something i legally bought a few years ago, that was approved by the atf and the fbi approved the transfer ? Now i need to spend another $200 for a tax stamp, and abide by a bunch of federal storage requirements, plus home inspections by the atf?

With registration comes confiscation, and they are after all semiautomatic weapons, it is not just this one item

Fuck them, i am buying another one next week, if they want to turn me into a felon retroactively, they will create a world of shit for themselves, they are 10 million people who fall into this category, many like me are veterans


Let’s get the party started
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85110612


Yep they did that in NY years ago , & you sat there saying it will never happen here, screw NY.
Now look, because you did NOY fight like he'll to help NY gun owners now ots at your front door!
Stupid idiots. You should have fought this crap when it landed in NY FIRST! Get you butts into the legal fight I. NY NOW their laws are written weaker than most other states. The court case wins need to happen in NY first!
 Quoting: Ken is my real name


This is really Biden fucking with people and the courts.

Biden said he's going to ban all semiautomatic weapons, and this is just a start.

burnit
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Does anyone here have one and if so what do you recommend we do?

I’ve been looking at one on gunbroker and now I’m not sure if I should buy it.
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Put a regular stock, nothing related to pistol on the rifle. That’s all and thank your brothers in Chicago for this law
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It’ll go by the wayside, just like bump stocks.
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Re: ATF Bans Millions of Guns With New Pistol Brace Rule
Yesterday evening, the ATF just went ballistic and BANNED many millions of existing AR-style pistols that were LEGALLY purchased and owned. They published their much-awaited "arm brace" rule that essentially means all AR-15s with arm braces are now "Short Barreled Rifles" (SBRs), and you must either register them, destroy them or disassemble / modify them to comply. They've given 120 days before they begin the RAIDS on millions of Americans. This is a war on America:

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 Quoting: Koloyac


Fuck you ATF!!!!!
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Yesterday evening, the ATF just went ballistic and BANNED many millions of existing AR-style pistols that were LEGALLY purchased and owned. They published their much-awaited "arm brace" rule that essentially means all AR-15s with arm braces are now "Short Barreled Rifles" (SBRs), and you must either register them, destroy them or disassemble / modify them to comply. They've given 120 days before they begin the RAIDS on millions of Americans. This is a war on America:

[link to thereload.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Koloyac


They won't get away with it. A regulatory agency cannot redefine (change the definition of) the object they regulate.

They cannot say an object is legal, then turn around and "discover" that the object is illegal.

Further, they KNOW the NFA is a house of cards and will tumble as soon as someone challenges the regulation of SBRs in Federal Court.
Seekinginformation
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Let’s see what PSA comes with for all the AKs sold with a collapsible stock and shorty barrels.
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Weird how the American government is trying to disarm law abiding American citizens while at the same time arming Neo Nazis in Ukraine.
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Does anyone here have one and if so what do you recommend we do?

I’ve been looking at one on gunbroker and now I’m not sure if I should buy it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84054923


Put a regular stock, nothing related to pistol on the rifle. That’s all and thank your brothers in Chicago for this law
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If it has a barrel under 16", you'll have to convert it into a pistol without a brace.
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This is a war on America:
 Quoting: Koloyac

That's a BIG lie. These very dangerous non-hunting rifles must be taken away from everyone who has one. They're evil and so are those who possess them and are just waiting for an opportunity to mass-murder.
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Does anyone here have one and if so what do you recommend we do?

I’ve been looking at one on gunbroker and now I’m not sure if I should buy it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84054923


Put a regular stock, nothing related to pistol on the rifle. That’s all and thank your brothers in Chicago for this law
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If it has a barrel under 16", you'll have to convert it into a pistol without a brace.
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We don't have to do shit...
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I am a Canadian with 30 guns, 28 of which have been banned in the last 30 months.



Help me.




But I refuse to cede to confiscation and would rather let them kill me.



Just know it can be worse, American friends.


We will soon no longer have any magazine fed firearms.
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This is a war on America:
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That's a BIG lie. These very dangerous non-hunting rifles must be taken away from everyone who has one. They're evil and so are those who possess them and are just waiting for an opportunity to mass-murder.
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Stupid troll. Fuck off.
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This is a war on America:
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That's a BIG lie. These very dangerous non-hunting rifles must be taken away from everyone who has one. They're evil and so are those who possess them and are just waiting for an opportunity to mass-murder.
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I hope that was sarcasm.
What the Hell?...
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Brandon strikes back!
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The ATF doesn't make law.
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Re: ATF Bans Millions of Guns With New Pistol Brace Rule
Yesterday evening, the ATF just went ballistic and BANNED many millions of existing AR-style pistols that were LEGALLY purchased and owned. They published their much-awaited "arm brace" rule that essentially means all AR-15s with arm braces are now "Short Barreled Rifles" (SBRs), and you must either register them, destroy them or disassemble / modify them to comply. They've given 120 days before they begin the RAIDS on millions of Americans. This is a war on America:

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 Quoting: Koloyac


They won't get away with it. A regulatory agency cannot redefine (change the definition of) the object they regulate.

They cannot say an object is legal, then turn around and "discover" that the object is illegal.

Further, they KNOW the NFA is a house of cards and will tumble as soon as someone challenges the regulation of SBRs in Federal Court.
 Quoting: Seekinginformation


Every gun organization in America is going to sue the ATF, but Biden knows this.

It's all about keeping things tied up in courts, which could take years to sort out.

In Oregon the new 114 law is tied up in the courts now, and the result of 114 is people having to wait moths to get the guns they purchased, or having their gun purchase canceled.

Biden is just using the courts to fuck everything up for Americans, and get them frustrated enough not to even think about buying a gun.





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