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Falcon Heavy from Launch to Landing in 4K!

 
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Thanks, Doc! The time of day with the setting Sun made this an awesome video capture.

Is there any image stabilization software to get rid of the bouncing of the scope on the mount? And is that due to the motors and/or gears that drive the scope?
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Yeah, it's due to the motors, they shake the scope a bit when they engage and disengage. At an equivalent focal length of 5.6 meters there's zero forgiveness for any vibrations. None of the video stabilization software I tried had any positive effect on the footage, so I went without it. I think the chaotic flames and exhaust are too much for standard algorithms. I even wrote my own quick and dirty solution, but it just kept trying to stabilize on the flames, to no effect.
 Quoting: Astromut


Not trying to be a smart ass here, but perhaps a little low pass filtering on the resulting position increments coming from the tracking algorithm? Because it seems to be a high speed reaction to track the brightest spots on the flame, right? Which spots change position at a high rate of speed.
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Honestly don't know how to do that within Davinci Resolve. With my own software, sure, I could do some tricks to try to get it to work better, but time was very finite. I only had minutes to throw something together and either it was going to work or it wasn't. Sadly it didn't. My time last night was dedicated to editing what I had together and rendering, uploading and then waiting overnight for YouTube to process. People's attention spans are fleeting, I had a lot of people interested to see my launch footage as of yesterday but I had to get it uploaded as soon as possible after launch.

I can now spend more time working on it, maybe even designating tracking points by hand, but when it comes to posting launch footage the render times from the Blackmagic raw format and the upload time and the YouTube processing time are all rate limiting steps that already put me on the edge of missing the wave when a launch happens. Unless I can come up with an algorithm that works, runs fast, and delivers results without having to hold its hand at all, it's not going to be able to fit in my processing pipeline for launch videos.
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astro, you just sound retarded to anyone who has half a brain.

SpaceX is a joke. You dont even NEED to do anything to know this. All you need is common sense.

Compare the size of the earth shown at the stated distance the Tesla Roadster was suppose to be, to NASA pictures at the same distance.

The car went no where. CGI, which they cant even do without glitching.

You can download software and run videos through it. It detects whats CGI, whats layered, ect.

If you have half a brain, you already know this as well. So of course your the little space/nasa promoter and just happen to be a moderator.

I would love to beat you until your unconscious. We could even stream it.
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It has been proved that the roadster in space was faked, using commonly known and accepted science.
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Wrong.


 Quoting: Astromut


WTF does this have to do with the faking of the roadster in space?
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I suggest you watch it. The claim was the car went nowhere. I tracked it out well past the moon.
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Thanks, Doc! The time of day with the setting Sun made this an awesome video capture.

Is there any image stabilization software to get rid of the bouncing of the scope on the mount? And is that due to the motors and/or gears that drive the scope?
 Quoting: Georgia_dawg


Yeah, it's due to the motors, they shake the scope a bit when they engage and disengage. At an equivalent focal length of 5.6 meters there's zero forgiveness for any vibrations. None of the video stabilization software I tried had any positive effect on the footage, so I went without it. I think the chaotic flames and exhaust are too much for standard algorithms. I even wrote my own quick and dirty solution, but it just kept trying to stabilize on the flames, to no effect.
 Quoting: Astromut


Not trying to be a smart ass here, but perhaps a little low pass filtering on the resulting position increments coming from the tracking algorithm? Because it seems to be a high speed reaction to track the brightest spots on the flame, right? Which spots change position at a high rate of speed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85115659


Honestly don't know how to do that within Davinci Resolve. With my own software, sure, I could do some tricks to try to get it to work better, but time was very finite. I only had minutes to throw something together and either it was going to work or it wasn't. Sadly it didn't. My time last night was dedicated to editing what I had together and rendering, uploading and then waiting overnight for YouTube to process. People's attention spans are fleeting, I had a lot of people interested to see my launch footage as of yesterday but I had to get it uploaded as soon as possible after launch.

I can now spend more time working on it, maybe even designating tracking points by hand, but when it comes to posting launch footage the render times from the Blackmagic raw format and the upload time and the YouTube processing time are all rate limiting steps that already put me on the edge of missing the wave when a launch happens. Unless I can come up with an algorithm that works, runs fast, and delivers results without having to hold its hand at all, it's not going to be able to fit in my processing pipeline for launch videos.
 Quoting: Astromut


I think he means to suggest that you could high pass filter the position data that your tracking algorithm generates to smooth out the noise in the tracking motion.
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Thank you so much for this! Best footage ever!
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Yeah, it's due to the motors, they shake the scope a bit when they engage and disengage. At an equivalent focal length of 5.6 meters there's zero forgiveness for any vibrations. None of the video stabilization software I tried had any positive effect on the footage, so I went without it. I think the chaotic flames and exhaust are too much for standard algorithms. I even wrote my own quick and dirty solution, but it just kept trying to stabilize on the flames, to no effect.
 Quoting: Astromut


Not trying to be a smart ass here, but perhaps a little low pass filtering on the resulting position increments coming from the tracking algorithm? Because it seems to be a high speed reaction to track the brightest spots on the flame, right? Which spots change position at a high rate of speed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85115659


Honestly don't know how to do that within Davinci Resolve. With my own software, sure, I could do some tricks to try to get it to work better, but time was very finite. I only had minutes to throw something together and either it was going to work or it wasn't. Sadly it didn't. My time last night was dedicated to editing what I had together and rendering, uploading and then waiting overnight for YouTube to process. People's attention spans are fleeting, I had a lot of people interested to see my launch footage as of yesterday but I had to get it uploaded as soon as possible after launch.

I can now spend more time working on it, maybe even designating tracking points by hand, but when it comes to posting launch footage the render times from the Blackmagic raw format and the upload time and the YouTube processing time are all rate limiting steps that already put me on the edge of missing the wave when a launch happens. Unless I can come up with an algorithm that works, runs fast, and delivers results without having to hold its hand at all, it's not going to be able to fit in my processing pipeline for launch videos.
 Quoting: Astromut


I think he means to suggest that you could high pass filter the position data that your tracking algorithm generates to smooth out the noise in the tracking motion.
 Quoting: BFD


Oh I see, well my algorithm such that it was, wasn't even fancy enough to do that. It was brain dead simple and brute force, not elegant at all. When I say I threw it together in minutes and let it run come what may, that's exactly what I mean. There were no tracking points to filter per se, it was just this; crop in a few pixels on the image, shift the image 1 pixel at a time in each direction over the entire span it was cropped in by, subtract the current image from the previous image and see what the absolute difference in pixel values were for each frame, shift each image by the amount that corresponded to the least difference between frames. Totally inelegant, computationally expensive as hell in a 4K video, and in the end ineffective. I have a better feature-based tracking algorithm that does work based on tracking points, but it needs some hand holding when it loses lock and I didn't have time for that.
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It has been proved that the roadster in space was faked, using commonly known and accepted science.
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Wrong.


 Quoting: Astromut


WTF does this have to do with the faking of the roadster in space?
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I suggest you watch it. The claim was the car went nowhere. I tracked it out well past the moon.
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You claim to have tracked something.

If you believe you tracked the roadster from launch to outer space, you're not as smart as you claim you are. Even children can see this is not proof of anything.
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It has been proved that the roadster in space was faked, using commonly known and accepted science.
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Wrong.


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WTF does this have to do with the faking of the roadster in space?
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I suggest you watch it. The claim was the car went nowhere. I tracked it out well past the moon.
 Quoting: Astromut

I don't know or claim that the car went nowhere, I claim the video footage had to be faked, because the car could not endure outer space.
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Yeah, it's due to the motors, they shake the scope a bit when they engage and disengage. At an equivalent focal length of 5.6 meters there's zero forgiveness for any vibrations. None of the video stabilization software I tried had any positive effect on the footage, so I went without it. I think the chaotic flames and exhaust are too much for standard algorithms. I even wrote my own quick and dirty solution, but it just kept trying to stabilize on the flames, to no effect.
 Quoting: Astromut


Not trying to be a smart ass here, but perhaps a little low pass filtering on the resulting position increments coming from the tracking algorithm? Because it seems to be a high speed reaction to track the brightest spots on the flame, right? Which spots change position at a high rate of speed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85115659


Honestly don't know how to do that within Davinci Resolve. With my own software, sure, I could do some tricks to try to get it to work better, but time was very finite. I only had minutes to throw something together and either it was going to work or it wasn't. Sadly it didn't. My time last night was dedicated to editing what I had together and rendering, uploading and then waiting overnight for YouTube to process. People's attention spans are fleeting, I had a lot of people interested to see my launch footage as of yesterday but I had to get it uploaded as soon as possible after launch.

I can now spend more time working on it, maybe even designating tracking points by hand, but when it comes to posting launch footage the render times from the Blackmagic raw format and the upload time and the YouTube processing time are all rate limiting steps that already put me on the edge of missing the wave when a launch happens. Unless I can come up with an algorithm that works, runs fast, and delivers results without having to hold its hand at all, it's not going to be able to fit in my processing pipeline for launch videos.
 Quoting: Astromut


I think he means to suggest that you could high pass filter the position data that your tracking algorithm generates to smooth out the noise in the tracking motion.
 Quoting: BFD


Yes, this. Only it would be low pass, to filter out those high derivative position changes.

By the way, wery nice work, Astro. I always am amazed. Dasbier
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Yes, this. Only it would be low pass, to filter out those high derivative position changes.

By the way, wery nice work, Astro. I always am amazed. Dasbier
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Yeah low pass makes more sense... high pass would leave you with just the noise.

He replied to you above fwiw.
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SpaceX fake everything. Junk. Trash. Spam.

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Well this is supposed to be a Conspiracy Forum!!!!
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Wrong.


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WTF does this have to do with the faking of the roadster in space?
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I suggest you watch it. The claim was the car went nowhere. I tracked it out well past the moon.
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I don't know or claim that the car went nowhere, I claim the video footage had to be faked, because the car could not endure outer space.
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And you're wrong, at least for the span of time the car was shown. Space will take its toll on the car, but it's a much longer process than a few hours.
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WTF does this have to do with the faking of the roadster in space?
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I suggest you watch it. The claim was the car went nowhere. I tracked it out well past the moon.
 Quoting: Astromut

I don't know or claim that the car went nowhere, I claim the video footage had to be faked, because the car could not endure outer space.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85121726

And you're wrong, at least for the span of time the car was shown. Space will take its toll on the car, but it's a much longer process than a few hours.
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Some of the materials wouldn't last a few hours. All were pristine in the video.
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SpaceX fake everything. Junk. Trash. Spam.

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Well this is supposed to be a Conspiracy Forum!!!!
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Makes you wonder doesn't it?
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"Compare the size of the Earth to NASA photos"

Compare it to what? NASA photos don't have a "car for scale", and even if they did the length of the selfie-stick is the main factor of how large the Earth looks compared to the Tesla. People don't think at all before they make these claims!
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I suggest you watch it. The claim was the car went nowhere. I tracked it out well past the moon.
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I don't know or claim that the car went nowhere, I claim the video footage had to be faked, because the car could not endure outer space.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85121726

And you're wrong, at least for the span of time the car was shown. Space will take its toll on the car, but it's a much longer process than a few hours.
 Quoting: Astromut


Some of the materials wouldn't last a few hours.
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Sure they would. Polymers, paint, metal and rubber. No reason it would degrade within a few hours. The UV light will destroy it, but only gradually, not within a few hours.
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Here's my footage of this past weekend's Falcon Heavy launch, tracking it all the way to landing with an 11" telescope and my custom RocketTraker software.
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Epic as ever, Astro.
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What happens to the center core? Does any part of it get recovered?
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Not this time. They needed the full performance out of the center core, no fuel left for a landing attempt.
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how high did this go? doesn't look very high up, 100km ? 200km?
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footage spliced at 7m 12s. nothing in view . camera wobble excuse is lame. Same old same old.
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What happens to the center core? Does any part of it get recovered?
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Not this time. They needed the full performance out of the center core, no fuel left for a landing attempt.
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how high did this go? doesn't look very high up, 100km ? 200km?
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The second stage was targeting a geostationary orbit, directly inserting the payloads instead of just delivering them to an elliptical orbit where they have to spend their own fuel to circularize. The boosters hit apogee around 100 km up.
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footage spliced at 7m 12s. nothing in view . camera wobble excuse is lame. Same old same old.
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That's a serious accusation, let's see your evidence of a splice. Some discontinuity in the video footage that would prove a sudden change in footage, not just "oh the booster left the frame for a second you must have edited it." You don't get to ASSUME I faked it. Oh and good luck proving that false accusation, I even live streamed it.

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From 1:33 to 1:45 you can see the image of Jesus materialize, right in the middle of the flames, head just after the tail of the rocket. He kind of turns his face to the side and up. And I don't even believe in Jes.us
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Here's my footage of this past weekend's Falcon Heavy launch, tracking it all the way to landing with an 11" telescope and my custom RocketTraker software.
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That was just pure DOPE.

What do they mean when they say "Falcon Heavy"? Also used with airplanes.
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Here's my footage of this past weekend's Falcon Heavy launch, tracking it all the way to landing with an 11" telescope and my custom RocketTraker software.
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Here's my footage of this past weekend's Falcon Heavy launch, tracking it all the way to landing with an 11" telescope and my custom RocketTraker software.
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That was just pure DOPE.

What do they mean when they say "Falcon Heavy"? Also used with airplanes.
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Falcon Heavy is derived from the Falcon 9 rocket. The side boosters are essentially a pair of Falcon 9 rockets strapped to the center core (the first Falcon Heavy launched with previously-flown Falcon 9 boosters which were converted to side boosters with an aerodynamic nose cone at the top instead of the usual interstage section). The center core itself is a structurally beefed-up Falcon 9 with retractable pylons to connect the side boosters. In total it has 27 engines, 9 on each core.

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I saw the boosters go overhead and land in Florida or the plumes anyways. It happened about 5-10 minutes before the live stream showed it happening.
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Here's my footage of this past weekend's Falcon Heavy launch, tracking it all the way to landing with an 11" telescope and my custom RocketTraker software.
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great post, OP!!

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Awesome video!!!
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Damn, that is amazing footage.

Very cool Astro!

Cudos!

I'm always, always impressed with these returning rockets.

I just want handle bars and a space suit and of course a bit of flame retardant!
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Cool video

I’m surprised how fast they land at the end
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