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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83789386 Canada 01/23/2023 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not about the money. It's more about any disruptive technology that has the possibility to force people to change their comfortable, predictable lives. Change is too scary for some people. Or maybe it's personal choice. When someone lives in a cold climate, an electric car just isn't feasible. The range of electric cars is cut in half in cold climates, and night driving uses even more electricity with the heater running full blast and headlights on. You expect people to drive halfway home and stop and recharge the car for an hour every single work day? |
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Freewheel
User ID: 80347000 United States 01/23/2023 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not about the money. It's more about any disruptive technology that has the possibility to force people to change their comfortable, predictable lives. Change is too scary for some people. Or maybe it's personal choice. When someone lives in a cold climate, an electric car just isn't feasible. The range of electric cars is cut in half in cold climates, and night driving uses even more electricity with the heater running full blast and headlights on. You expect people to drive halfway home and stop and recharge the car for an hour every single work day? No, I expect that people should think about their own personal situation and do what's best for them. Just because a Tesla doesn't work that well in Montana in January doesn't mean it doesn't have use elsewhere. Advances in battery technology, monitoring, motors, etc have value across multiple industries. Not to mention, finding the weaknesses (yep, I said it) in current battery technology is impelling research in other areas. That might not have happened but for Tesla. None of this is reason to Panem Et Circenses - Until you know what it means you'll never understand politics. The extent of effort most people want to expend to effect change is to lift a single finger and point at someone else. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77210388 United States 01/23/2023 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not about the money. It's more about any disruptive technology that has the possibility to force people to change their comfortable, predictable lives. Change is too scary for some people. Or maybe it's personal choice. When someone lives in a cold climate, an electric car just isn't feasible. The range of electric cars is cut in half in cold climates, and night driving uses even more electricity with the heater running full blast and headlights on. You expect people to drive halfway home and stop and recharge the car for an hour every single work day? No, I expect that people should think about their own personal situation and do what's best for them. Just because a Tesla doesn't work that well in Montana in January doesn't mean it doesn't have use elsewhere. Advances in battery technology, monitoring, motors, etc have value across multiple industries. Not to mention, finding the weaknesses (yep, I said it) in current battery technology is impelling research in other areas. That might not have happened but for Tesla. None of this is reason to Spoken like a true libtard.EVs and people that buy them are dumb.Period. |
Freewheel
User ID: 80347000 United States 01/23/2023 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Freewheel It's not about the money. It's more about any disruptive technology that has the possibility to force people to change their comfortable, predictable lives. Change is too scary for some people. Or maybe it's personal choice. When someone lives in a cold climate, an electric car just isn't feasible. The range of electric cars is cut in half in cold climates, and night driving uses even more electricity with the heater running full blast and headlights on. You expect people to drive halfway home and stop and recharge the car for an hour every single work day? No, I expect that people should think about their own personal situation and do what's best for them. Just because a Tesla doesn't work that well in Montana in January doesn't mean it doesn't have use elsewhere. Advances in battery technology, monitoring, motors, etc have value across multiple industries. Not to mention, finding the weaknesses (yep, I said it) in current battery technology is impelling research in other areas. That might not have happened but for Tesla. None of this is reason to Spoken like a true libtard.EVs and people that buy them are dumb.Period. I suspect Henry Ford heard comments very similar. The Wrights, Edison, and especially Tesla (the original) too. Panem Et Circenses - Until you know what it means you'll never understand politics. The extent of effort most people want to expend to effect change is to lift a single finger and point at someone else. |
Judethz
User ID: 79555498 United Kingdom 01/23/2023 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same reason as with the vaxx. Difficult to like people who are morans without a brian and believe anything the daily oppressor tells them, disregarding their own wellbeing - and at the same time making everyone else miserable with their brianless moranic preaching learned from the daily oppressor. Quoting: Karlgel I agree, I'm fed up with all the stupid virtue signaling for something that will be forcing many people off the roads in the near future. Welcome to Prison Planet. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78681264 United States 01/23/2023 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not jealousy. Even if I had billions, I still wouldn't buy one. No, it's really disdain and contempt at the cluelessness and virtue signaling. You drive a car that requires mass destruction of the earth at mining sites to obtain the rare earth minerals with slave labor, powered ultimately by "fossil fuels", then brag about how climate conscious and woke you are. It would be funny if it weren't so hypocritical and pathetic. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78681264 United States 01/23/2023 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not about the money. It's more about any disruptive technology that has the possibility to force people to change their comfortable, predictable lives. Change is too scary for some people. If the "disruptive technology" actually worked well, and its users weren't so insufferably arrogant, there might be a little more acceptance. I don't do well being forced to change my life for no gd good reason. I want my life to be comfortable. I've earned it. I have no intention on living it on your or anyone else's terms. Change that makes sense is one thing. Change that doesn't is and will always be rejected. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77210388 United States 01/23/2023 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83789386 Or maybe it's personal choice. When someone lives in a cold climate, an electric car just isn't feasible. The range of electric cars is cut in half in cold climates, and night driving uses even more electricity with the heater running full blast and headlights on. You expect people to drive halfway home and stop and recharge the car for an hour every single work day? No, I expect that people should think about their own personal situation and do what's best for them. Just because a Tesla doesn't work that well in Montana in January doesn't mean it doesn't have use elsewhere. Advances in battery technology, monitoring, motors, etc have value across multiple industries. Not to mention, finding the weaknesses (yep, I said it) in current battery technology is impelling research in other areas. That might not have happened but for Tesla. None of this is reason to Spoken like a true libtard.EVs and people that buy them are dumb.Period. I suspect Henry Ford heard comments very similar. The Wrights, Edison, and especially Tesla (the original) too. Ford is bankrupt and so is gm because of electric vehicles dumbass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78681264 United States 01/23/2023 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83789386 Or maybe it's personal choice. When someone lives in a cold climate, an electric car just isn't feasible. The range of electric cars is cut in half in cold climates, and night driving uses even more electricity with the heater running full blast and headlights on. You expect people to drive halfway home and stop and recharge the car for an hour every single work day? No, I expect that people should think about their own personal situation and do what's best for them. Just because a Tesla doesn't work that well in Montana in January doesn't mean it doesn't have use elsewhere. Advances in battery technology, monitoring, motors, etc have value across multiple industries. Not to mention, finding the weaknesses (yep, I said it) in current battery technology is impelling research in other areas. That might not have happened but for Tesla. None of this is reason to Spoken like a true libtard.EVs and people that buy them are dumb.Period. I suspect Henry Ford heard comments very similar. The Wrights, Edison, and especially Tesla (the original) too. One small problem with your comparison there: the inventions of Ford, Wright brothers, Edison and Tesla actually worked from the first moment they were marketed to the public. They weren't forced, and they didn't expect buyers to accept LESS capable and more expensive products than they already had. |
Freewheel
User ID: 80347000 United States 01/23/2023 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Freewheel No, I expect that people should think about their own personal situation and do what's best for them. Just because a Tesla doesn't work that well in Montana in January doesn't mean it doesn't have use elsewhere. Advances in battery technology, monitoring, motors, etc have value across multiple industries. Not to mention, finding the weaknesses (yep, I said it) in current battery technology is impelling research in other areas. That might not have happened but for Tesla. None of this is reason to Spoken like a true libtard.EVs and people that buy them are dumb.Period. I suspect Henry Ford heard comments very similar. The Wrights, Edison, and especially Tesla (the original) too. One small problem with your comparison there: the inventions of Ford, Wright brothers, Edison and Tesla actually worked from the first moment they were marketed to the public. They weren't forced, and they didn't expect buyers to accept LESS capable and more expensive products than they already had. You really need to study your automotive history. Industrial too, apparently. Come back when you can't still say "the inventions of Ford, Wright brothers, Edison and Tesla actually worked from the first moment they were marketed to the public" with a straight face and we'll have a real conversation. Panem Et Circenses - Until you know what it means you'll never understand politics. The extent of effort most people want to expend to effect change is to lift a single finger and point at someone else. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78681264 United States 01/23/2023 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77210388 Spoken like a true libtard.EVs and people that buy them are dumb.Period. I suspect Henry Ford heard comments very similar. The Wrights, Edison, and especially Tesla (the original) too. One small problem with your comparison there: the inventions of Ford, Wright brothers, Edison and Tesla actually worked from the first moment they were marketed to the public. They weren't forced, and they didn't expect buyers to accept LESS capable and more expensive products than they already had. You really need to study your automotive history. Industrial too, apparently. Come back when you can't still say "the inventions of Ford, Wright brothers, Edison and Tesla actually worked from the first moment they were marketed to the public" with a straight face and we'll have a real conversation. "YOU NEED TO READ A BOOK!!! GAHHHHH!" Typical response from a typical arrogant leftist having his virtue signaling shoved back into his face. I know my history, most likely better than you do. Their inventions worked, even with their initial flaws. But they weren't forced on people, they weren't bought or sold based on societal pressure or false pretenses, and they actually improved people's lives. Unlike that death trap you're so proud of driving around. |
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Freewheel
User ID: 80347000 United States 01/23/2023 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Freewheel I suspect Henry Ford heard comments very similar. The Wrights, Edison, and especially Tesla (the original) too. One small problem with your comparison there: the inventions of Ford, Wright brothers, Edison and Tesla actually worked from the first moment they were marketed to the public. They weren't forced, and they didn't expect buyers to accept LESS capable and more expensive products than they already had. You really need to study your automotive history. Industrial too, apparently. Come back when you can't still say "the inventions of Ford, Wright brothers, Edison and Tesla actually worked from the first moment they were marketed to the public" with a straight face and we'll have a real conversation. "YOU NEED TO READ A BOOK!!! GAHHHHH!" Typical response from a typical arrogant leftist having his virtue signaling shoved back into his face. I know my history, most likely better than you do. Their inventions worked, even with their initial flaws. But they weren't forced on people, they weren't bought or sold based on societal pressure or false pretenses, and they actually improved people's lives. Unlike that death trap you're so proud of driving around. I drive a crappy v4 that has airs about being a v6, but hey - don't let that stop you from making baseless assumptions. Let's put "worked from the first moment" aside since we can now agree they didn't. I'm still getting a handle on your central argument. If being forced upon is the central issue, then we're having a political discussion, not a technical one. Why then demonize the engineers and early adopters? Seems to me both our adversaries' are the politicians. Panem Et Circenses - Until you know what it means you'll never understand politics. The extent of effort most people want to expend to effect change is to lift a single finger and point at someone else. |
Soundman
User ID: 80928819 United States 01/23/2023 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't hate anyone but I hate what many States and doing and requiring when it comes to all things EV... Its just stupid! If ones lives in a condo or apartment how will one charge his/her car overnight? In 2019 23.7% of the population living in New York State live in an apartment) Do I see a future of 150' extension wires hanging out every window in any local apartment complex? You can't install a 220V garage charger if you have no garage... How many times have you forgot to charge your phone at night? What if you forget to charge your car? My wife always forgets to charge her phone, she would never get to work. The new excuse for calling into work will be "I forgot to charge my car last night" If you have one novelty Tesla in the garage for soccer mom to run around in and drop the kids off at School but the family takes the Gas V8 Tahoe on vacation pulling the Airstream I can see it working...I guess if you want an electric car. How will the average family home with me the wife and 2.5 almost adult "driving" kids charge all our cars at night plus my work van, my golf cart and soon to be all electric Harley? At the most a 200AMP house AC service will only support one charger in the garage... It's stupid! Last Edited by Soundman on 01/23/2023 05:06 PM Soundman |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 65571479 United States 01/23/2023 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | People are not derivative thinkers, op. Let alone revolutionary thinkers. They tend to see the world for what it is. Not what it could be.. this is why disruption is so powerful.. Ev’s are a logical segment to target reducing oil and gas dependence. With renewable energy becoming very cost compelling.. And battery technologies evolving rapidly. We will see a fast transition.. . “Hate” is a strong word… But don’t ask people to think critically. It’s easier to poo poo new innovations.. And move with the crowd.. Than to see a future Where every building has solar and wind. And battery tech is cheap and safe with low cost and abundant materials.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80964456 United States 01/23/2023 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are ruining the world and wrecking the environment. Those batteries as as bad a nuclear waste when it comes to disposing of them..every 5-6 years. The replacement batteries are often priced at half of the price for a new EV. I don't hate them, I just wish there were smarter. |
Soundman
User ID: 80928819 United States 01/23/2023 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama and the EPA started shutting down coal power plants years ago with many shutdowns scheduled the next few years. We have less power feeding the grid now than we did 20 years ago. The grid will never be able to support the amount of car charges needed to charge all these EV cars. Even the transformer in front of your house supplying power to 5 of your neighbors are not designed to handle the extra power load of 5 cars being charged over night on those garage 220V chargers. If we USA went 100% EV the entire electric grid will need to be replaced and the idea of wind and solar is a talking point... Yes it could be done but at what expense with what money? it wont be done not in the USA, we don't even make anything anymore ... Welcome to a 3rd world Country of rolling blackouts when more as more chargers are added. I wish someone would simple answer this question... In 2035 when California goes all new car EV requirement what will need to be done to that power grid by 2035 and are those plans on the books and who is paying for it? How much electric power will be required and how you gonna generate, deliver that amount of power to all the homes in my town so I can charge all the cars my family will need to get to work the next morning? If I was seeing improvements being made to our grid now I may have an open mind but you can't require more things to use electric power ( stoves and cars ) and then outlaw and shut down those power plants that generate that power. Last Edited by Soundman on 01/23/2023 06:31 PM Soundman |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65571479 United States 01/23/2023 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the reasoned response, soundman. I agree with your points.. And I think they know that as well.. We will hit a point where infrastructure investment will be required. But at least the money we print for that. Stays in the country.. As opposed to go to foreign nations. The geopolitics of oil” and gas are certainly a card on the table. And we would do well to innovate our way away from those dependencies |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65571479 United States 01/23/2023 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The race right now is storage.. Who can provide the best storage for the given inputs. Production can be achieved. Distribution can be achieved.. We need storage.. They are working hard on this solution. The western nations and market still have innovative minds.. |
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