Father and Son Kill Neighbor Over a Mattress (VIDEO) Trial Begins Today | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72696171 United States 01/23/2023 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way the guy in orange was carrying on, there was something much more to this story, he was REALLY pissed over something, really bad. Maybe there was evidence on the mattress and he was trying to get it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171 I BET there were CHILDREN involved, just a hunch. They were fighting over something and it wasn't a rotten mattress in an ally. If there was evidence on the mattress why would they put it in an alley for the whole world to see? Idk about you but in my personal experience people can get real upset and do irrational stuff when emotions get high. Eg. the people getting killed at fast food joints for ‘cold fries’ Perhaps the guy in orange discovered there was likely evidence on it after he threw it away? Those two look like child molesters if there is a such thing as someone that looks like a pervert, and there are a hell of lot of them in Texas They were fighting about it being an eyesore I guess “The neighbors had been arguing about the trash in the alleyway for days before the fatal shooting, police said. The day of Howard's death, John Miller had gone to throw the garbage out before the situation escalated.” [link to www.foxnews.com (secure)] Jesus, one would hope there has to be another reason. Pretty soon people will be killing other people because they don't look right |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85145724 United States 01/23/2023 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Word, I would never film my husband arguing with men like that and two guns? SUch a sad scenario, the argument went on a little too long. The wife’s job is to calm the husband not to film and agitate the situation. This so horrible. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78681264 United States 01/23/2023 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dead guy attacked with a baseball bat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84106760 Obviously self defense. They even warned him. Pretty much. Mad dog was literally asking for it. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. No, he did not. His brother brought the baseball bat outside and was several feet behind orange shirt when he was shot. Orange shirt was completely unarmed. No shirts are going to prison. |
HellbentHeavenBound
(OP) User ID: 72656078 United States 01/23/2023 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way the guy in orange was carrying on, there was something much more to this story, he was REALLY pissed over something, really bad. Maybe there was evidence on the mattress and he was trying to get it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72696171 I BET there were CHILDREN involved, just a hunch. They were fighting over something and it wasn't a rotten mattress in an ally. If there was evidence on the mattress why would they put it in an alley for the whole world to see? Idk about you but in my personal experience people can get real upset and do irrational stuff when emotions get high. Eg. the people getting killed at fast food joints for ‘cold fries’ That's where orange shirt was. He was so mad that he dared no shirts to shoot him. Irrational rage. That's what made me think of messing with kids. That guy was hot over something, something as bad and murder Ok, but it was orange shirts mattress. Your trying to connect dots that just ain’t there 2 Timothy 3:7 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. |
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HellbentHeavenBound
(OP) User ID: 72656078 United States 01/23/2023 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: HellbentHeavenBound If there was evidence on the mattress why would they put it in an alley for the whole world to see? Idk about you but in my personal experience people can get real upset and do irrational stuff when emotions get high. Eg. the people getting killed at fast food joints for ‘cold fries’ Perhaps the guy in orange discovered there was likely evidence on it after he threw it away? Those two look like child molesters if there is a such thing as someone that looks like a pervert, and there are a hell of lot of them in Texas They were fighting about it being an eyesore I guess “The neighbors had been arguing about the trash in the alleyway for days before the fatal shooting, police said. The day of Howard's death, John Miller had gone to throw the garbage out before the situation escalated.” [link to www.foxnews.com (secure)] Jesus, one would hope there has to be another reason. Pretty soon people will be killing other people because they don't look right Hate to break it to you but senseless murders happen everyday and have been since the first murder. Idk what world you’re living in. It sucks but that’s the truth 2 Timothy 3:7 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. |
WhiskeyBunker
User ID: 80005771 United States 01/23/2023 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dead guy attacked with a baseball bat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84106760 Obviously self defense. They even warned him. Pretty much. Mad dog was literally asking for it. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Dumb ass in orange fucked around and found out. Right before his dumb ass got shot he asked for a gun. Insane. I think he was on drugs and not thinking right. |
Catseye
User ID: 80605943 United States 01/23/2023 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | both sides seem like trash Quoting: Catseye the deliverance pup needs to go to jail just to make sure it can’t reproduce Look at that body shape. What is that, "inbred chomo" or what? At least the guy in orange LOOKED normal (somewhat) orange guy did look normal but he was risking holy hell screaming at a couple of milksops with guns, he was either drunk or he lets his testosterone get the better of him, he should have just filmed them with guns and gone inside and called the cops and why did the milksops come out without shirts? do they think they look more badass all pale and pasty? and the big one has boobs, lol Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads. Thoughts create, mind them well. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72696171 United States 01/23/2023 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: HellbentHeavenBound If there was evidence on the mattress why would they put it in an alley for the whole world to see? Idk about you but in my personal experience people can get real upset and do irrational stuff when emotions get high. Eg. the people getting killed at fast food joints for ‘cold fries’ That's where orange shirt was. He was so mad that he dared no shirts to shoot him. Irrational rage. That's what made me think of messing with kids. That guy was hot over something, something as bad and murder Ok, but it was orange shirts mattress. Your trying to connect dots that just ain’t there Well, I don't know who mattress it was, or whose house it was in originally, but it just seemed to me the confrontation could not have been over a discarded mattress by itself. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78681264 United States 01/23/2023 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dead guy attacked with a baseball bat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84106760 Obviously self defense. They even warned him. I remember this video, dude in the Orange asked for it for swinging on the pork belly. Self defense. Orange shirt didn't swing. He just walked up to daddy no shirt and got shot. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79158895 United States 01/23/2023 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Orange shirt threw the mattress in the dumpster. The 2 no shirts threw it into orange shirt's yard. Orange shirt put it back in the dumpster, unarmed. No shirts came out with guns and confronted orange shirt. You know the rest. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78681264 No shirts claimed orange shirt had a history of intimidating them. But it doesn't really matter. No shirts brought guns out of their house to confront orange shirt. Their self-defense claim is null and void. They will go up for murder. BTW, no shirts are father and son. That's exactly what happened. The two buffoons threw the mattress into his yard and then murdered him. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78681264 United States 01/23/2023 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dead guy attacked with a baseball bat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84106760 Obviously self defense. They even warned him. Pretty much. Mad dog was literally asking for it. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Dumb ass in orange fucked around and found out. Right before his dumb ass got shot he asked for a gun. Insane. I think he was on drugs and not thinking right. His anger had gotten out of control. Whatever he said didn't warrant being shot. |
HellbentHeavenBound
(OP) User ID: 72656078 United States 01/23/2023 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78681264 That's where orange shirt was. He was so mad that he dared no shirts to shoot him. Irrational rage. That's what made me think of messing with kids. That guy was hot over something, something as bad and murder Ok, but it was orange shirts mattress. Your trying to connect dots that just ain’t there Well, I don't know who mattress it was, or whose house it was in originally, but it just seemed to me the confrontation could not have been over a discarded mattress by itself. Yeah. It was probably a whole lot leading up to this. People will kill you over “the principle” 2 Timothy 3:7 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78681264 United States 01/23/2023 06:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No shirts were guilty the moment the walked outside with guns. Little no shirt even went inside to get his. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78681264 Yes, it indicates premeditation, intent. It COULD indicate that, but I doubt the prosecution could prove it. It's still 2nd degree murder though, at a minimum. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81680631 United States 01/23/2023 06:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She thought she was actually doing something when she said "You are not going to shoot my husband". And he was dead about one minute later. Quoting: Eilonwy It reminds me of that snow shoveling video. Remember? The people didn't take the neighbor seriously when he arrived with a gun. They kept arguing with him. What is it with people these days thinking their words have so much power? Does she think she has Jedi mind control or something? Bringing words to a gun fight... I know- why wasn't she pleading with him to leave, pulling on his arm? They all seem like stupid trash people. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31596103 United States 01/23/2023 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dead guy attacked with a baseball bat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84106760 Obviously self defense. They even warned him. Pretty much. Mad dog was literally asking for it. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. No, he did not. His brother brought the baseball bat outside and was several feet behind orange shirt when he was shot. Orange shirt was completely unarmed. No shirts are going to prison. So they had three against two no shirts. And let's not forget The Rittenhouse Precedent. No shirts walk. The reason why it took so long to go to trial is the DA knew he had a turd of a case and tried to get no shirts to plea to a lesser crime, but the dynamic duo told DA to stuff it so finally it's going to trial. The DA's panicking like a Frenchman in a thunderstorm. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72696171 United States 01/23/2023 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dead guy attacked with a baseball bat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84106760 Obviously self defense. They even warned him. Pretty much. Mad dog was literally asking for it. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. No, he did not. His brother brought the baseball bat outside and was several feet behind orange shirt when he was shot. Orange shirt was completely unarmed. No shirts are going to prison. So they had three against two no shirts. And let's not forget The Rittenhouse Precedent. No shirts walk. The reason why it took so long to go to trial is the DA knew he had a turd of a case and tried to get no shirts to plea to a lesser crime, but the dynamic duo told DA to stuff it so finally it's going to trial. The DA's panicking like a Frenchman in a thunderstorm. If it goes to a jury they are going to convict them of murder and makes sure they aren't out on the streets. NO ONE wants these two loose |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80898953 United States 01/23/2023 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SHE HAS MOVED ON THE VERY NEXT MONTH AFTER FIGURING OUT FINANCES, LIFE INSURANCES ETC. NEW BOYFRIEND KEEPING HER HAPPY AND OUT OF PTSD THANKS TO TIKTOK AS WELL JUSTICE SERVED OR NOT SHE DOESNT GIVE A DAMN ANYMORE BECAUSE AT THE THE END OF THE DAY SHE HAS PTSD LOLZ, ALL ABOUT HER HER AND JUST HER. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72696171 United States 01/23/2023 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dead guy attacked with a baseball bat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84106760 Obviously self defense. They even warned him. Pretty much. Mad dog was literally asking for it. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. No, he did not. His brother brought the baseball bat outside and was several feet behind orange shirt when he was shot. Orange shirt was completely unarmed. No shirts are going to prison. So they had three against two no shirts. And let's not forget The Rittenhouse Precedent. No shirts walk. The reason why it took so long to go to trial is the DA knew he had a turd of a case and tried to get no shirts to plea to a lesser crime, but the dynamic duo told DA to stuff it so finally it's going to trial. The DA's panicking like a Frenchman in a thunderstorm. Rittenhouse shot three armed (you know whos) who were trying to kill him. Nope, not the same thing at all/ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56216251 United States 01/23/2023 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No shirts were guilty the moment the walked outside with guns. Little no shirt even went inside to get his. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78681264 Yes, it indicates premeditation, intent. It COULD indicate that, but I doubt the prosecution could prove it. It's still 2nd degree murder though, at a minimum. As far as orange shirt goes, it doesn’t really matter. He’s still dead. That’s the takeaway. Don’t get yourself killed over stupid shit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31596103 United States 01/23/2023 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dead guy attacked with a baseball bat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84106760 Obviously self defense. They even warned him. Pretty much. Mad dog was literally asking for it. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Dumb ass in orange fucked around and found out. Right before his dumb ass got shot he asked for a gun. Insane. I think he was on drugs and not thinking right. Orange shirt was definitely on something. At least once the dynamic duo ventilated mad dog they didn't have to carry him too far to toss him in the dumpster. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78681264 United States 01/23/2023 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dead guy attacked with a baseball bat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84106760 Obviously self defense. They even warned him. Pretty much. Mad dog was literally asking for it. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. No, he did not. His brother brought the baseball bat outside and was several feet behind orange shirt when he was shot. Orange shirt was completely unarmed. No shirts are going to prison. So they had three against two no shirts. And let's not forget The Rittenhouse Precedent. No shirts walk. The reason why it took so long to go to trial is the DA knew he had a turd of a case and tried to get no shirts to plea to a lesser crime, but the dynamic duo told DA to stuff it so finally it's going to trial. The DA's panicking like a Frenchman in a thunderstorm. Maybe you missed the part where they came outside with guns to confront orange shirt. That negates their self defense claim. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72696171 United States 01/23/2023 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From what I have been able to assertian, the guy in the orange threw it out and the two weird looking inbred fuckers threw it in his yard. The guy in orange was pissed off at them for throwing it in his yard, he was carrying it back to the dumpster when those two fat chomos shot him |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31596103 United States 01/23/2023 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31596103 Pretty much. Mad dog was literally asking for it. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. No, he did not. His brother brought the baseball bat outside and was several feet behind orange shirt when he was shot. Orange shirt was completely unarmed. No shirts are going to prison. So they had three against two no shirts. And let's not forget The Rittenhouse Precedent. No shirts walk. The reason why it took so long to go to trial is the DA knew he had a turd of a case and tried to get no shirts to plea to a lesser crime, but the dynamic duo told DA to stuff it so finally it's going to trial. The DA's panicking like a Frenchman in a thunderstorm. If it goes to a jury they are going to convict them of murder and makes sure they aren't out on the streets. NO ONE wants these two loose In Texas?? Put down the crack pipe, junior. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 81680631 United States 01/23/2023 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78681264 No, he did not. His brother brought the baseball bat outside and was several feet behind orange shirt when he was shot. Orange shirt was completely unarmed. No shirts are going to prison. So they had three against two no shirts. And let's not forget The Rittenhouse Precedent. No shirts walk. The reason why it took so long to go to trial is the DA knew he had a turd of a case and tried to get no shirts to plea to a lesser crime, but the dynamic duo told DA to stuff it so finally it's going to trial. The DA's panicking like a Frenchman in a thunderstorm. If it goes to a jury they are going to convict them of murder and makes sure they aren't out on the streets. NO ONE wants these two loose In Texas?? Put down the crack pipe, junior. I'm in Texas and would convict on murder 1, even though no one in that video would be a loss to the world. |