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People who have never struggled with alcoholism have no idea how important "one day" is.

 
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op, milk releases some feel good hormones in the body. i find drinking it helps me with pain, perhaps it will give you a beneficial lift, too?

anything dairy concentrated increases the effect....ice cream, cheese....
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Milk is good. Drink some milk at night instead of the beer for that craving. Also a can of carrots. If you eat that can of carrots you won't want to drink.
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Remember HALT

Never get too Hungry Angry Loneley Tired

Alan Carr's "Stop Drinking Now" helped me quit nearly four years ago. On top of that, it helps to have a spiritual reason for abstaining, a reason bigger than every reason you might have to drink. Doing whatever I have to so that one day Jesus will say something to me like, "I know you. You done good, kiddo," works for me.

There are a lot of good speakers you can listen to on YouTube to help you go through what you're going through. Funny and real. Search for AA meetings or AA speakers.

You're not alone in the battle against the spirits. Just endure. You have to endure till the end.
The fires of suffering become the light of consciousness. E Tolle

For this reason I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God ... For God has not given us the spirit of fear, but of power, love and self-control. 2 Tim 1:6-7
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It's so easy to tell yourself "just one more day I'll drink, then I'll quit." The internal battle against the booze demon is heart wrenching.

Some of us go through periods where we don't drink at all; but then it just happens, and we slip, and the spiral begins again.

And then we hate ourselves and are disgusted, so we drink again and it's a horrible cycle.

I love alcohol, and I hate it. I hate the grip it has on me. I hate the internal battle. I hate knowing how amazing I am without it and how many talents I've blessed with but that one sip is all it takes. All it takes to spiral down again.

But you know what.... Those days like today, where I wrestle and wrestle against that horrible craving, and I WIN, those are the best.


You sit there, you get your keys, you give yourself every reason why it'll be okay to drive yourself to the liquor store one more time; but then you sit there and give yourself a hundred reasons not to.

I won't drink today.

If anyone has any encouragement I need it now more than ever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8839208


Proud of you for choosing not to drink today. You got this, you're stronger than the alcohol, you just need to remember that there was a life before alcohol, there will be a life without it as well.

I believe in you and believe you have the capability to beat this.
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I've been blessed with a non addictive personality. I can go on benders, binge drink, have daily beers and then merely go weeks/months without. I drink because I want to, when I want to. Same thing with coffee and sweets.

Nothing has a hold on me.
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I think ivermectin kills the alcohol parasite. And or taking probiotic after. (Reset my flora?)
I used to like to drink. But I took ivermectin for 5 days. Since then my desire is down. I cant get drunk anymore drinking 14% beer. And anything higher (that I used to drink) by body rejects or I drink too slow before drunk and I stop.

Or it might be im too depressed to drink. (I used to drink when depressed. But now im so far depressed im numb.) Either way, I cant get drunk anymore. So I dont barely feel a craving to drink. Like when im bored or sad or finished a goal, I think about drinking to celebrate (like I used to). But then I dont.
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I think ivermectin kills the alcohol parasite. And or taking probiotic after. (Reset my flora?)
I used to like to drink. But I took ivermectin for 5 days. Since then my desire is down. I cant get drunk anymore drinking 14% beer. And anything higher (that I used to drink) by body rejects or I drink too slow before drunk and I stop.

Or it might be im too depressed to drink. (I used to drink when depressed. But now im so far depressed im numb.) Either way, I cant get drunk anymore. So I dont barely feel a craving to drink. Like when im bored or sad or finished a goal, I think about drinking to celebrate (like I used to). But then I dont.
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This is intriguing.

Did you feel the alcoholism vanished or was diminished for a few weeks/months? How often will you have to take a "hit" of ivermectin in order to have the drinking feeling reduced?

Are there over the counter drugs which lessen or eliminate the urge to drink?
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op is right , i have no idea what its like to be a disgusting lush .
cheers pissbrain .
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Its seems there is every excuse to drink. Like ill just have a few to cool off after work. Then a few turns into 8. Thats why I quit, its just not worth it and I dont wanna turn into an Alcoholic.
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Try Naltrexone....blocks the opioid receptors for as long as you need to get your body physically un-addicted, reduces cravings....
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Ya but you can't use opioids for a week before starting nalrexone
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The gut microbiome is extremely out of whack with most alcoholics, the bugs that feed on alcohol will make you crave it like a strong compulsion because they want to get fed.

If you want to increase your odds of cleaning up you must detox and restore your gut microbiome.
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Thats one thing that got me. Heart burn all the time, fire shits, stomach always feels like it was churning, food didnt taste good unless I was drinking. Im taking pro biotics again and feel alot better.

Its like when your gut is off balance it throws your whole body out of balance.

Something inside wants to drink but im slowly replacing them with natural gut flora.

I feel bored sometimes at night but I turn to reading or maybe run on treadmill for 20min. That usually stops the craving
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Been sober for 11 months. The struggle is real, although I feel so much better

I have extreme sugar cravings. Find lower sugar options, granola bars, light cereal, etc...

Spindrift seltzer water takes care of the fizzy drink cravings.

Find some new hobbies, to keep your brain stimulated.

Be prepared for a mental roller coaster ride as your brain has to figure out other ways to cope with life's anxieties.

Wish you the best

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It's so easy to tell yourself "just one more day I'll drink, then I'll quit." The internal battle against the booze demon is heart wrenching.

Some of us go through periods where we don't drink at all; but then it just happens, and we slip, and the spiral begins again.

And then we hate ourselves and are disgusted, so we drink again and it's a horrible cycle.

I love alcohol, and I hate it. I hate the grip it has on me. I hate the internal battle. I hate knowing how amazing I am without it and how many talents I've blessed with but that one sip is all it takes. All it takes to spiral down again.

But you know what.... Those days like today, where I wrestle and wrestle against that horrible craving, and I WIN, those are the best.


You sit there, you get your keys, you give yourself every reason why it'll be okay to drive yourself to the liquor store one more time; but then you sit there and give yourself a hundred reasons not to.

I won't drink today.

If anyone has any encouragement I need it now more than ever.
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one of my best friends is hooked on the sauce.

Addictions are transferable so if you smoke, you can quit by adopting another less harmful addiction.

Eg; developing a Porn addiction so that you loose interest in drinking.

ALSO,,,,AA meetings can help you even though the recidivism rate is high, its better than nothing.
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3 years sober.
I found that the Christian program Celebrate Recovery was better than AA for me.
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It's so easy to tell yourself "just one more day I'll drink, then I'll quit." The internal battle against the booze demon is heart wrenching.

Some of us go through periods where we don't drink at all; but then it just happens, and we slip, and the spiral begins again.

And then we hate ourselves and are disgusted, so we drink again and it's a horrible cycle.

I love alcohol, and I hate it. I hate the grip it has on me. I hate the internal battle. I hate knowing how amazing I am without it and how many talents I've blessed with but that one sip is all it takes. All it takes to spiral down again.

But you know what.... Those days like today, where I wrestle and wrestle against that horrible craving, and I WIN, those are the best.


You sit there, you get your keys, you give yourself every reason why it'll be okay to drive yourself to the liquor store one more time; but then you sit there and give yourself a hundred reasons not to.

I won't drink today.

If anyone has any encouragement I need it now more than ever.
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Im right there with you brother.
1 day at a time.
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It's so easy to tell yourself "just one more day I'll drink, then I'll quit." The internal battle against the booze demon is heart wrenching.

Some of us go through periods where we don't drink at all; but then it just happens, and we slip, and the spiral begins again.

And then we hate ourselves and are disgusted, so we drink again and it's a horrible cycle.

I love alcohol, and I hate it. I hate the grip it has on me. I hate the internal battle. I hate knowing how amazing I am without it and how many talents I've blessed with but that one sip is all it takes. All it takes to spiral down again.

But you know what.... Those days like today, where I wrestle and wrestle against that horrible craving, and I WIN, those are the best.


You sit there, you get your keys, you give yourself every reason why it'll be okay to drive yourself to the liquor store one more time; but then you sit there and give yourself a hundred reasons not to.

I won't drink today.

If anyone has any encouragement I need it now more than ever.
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Find a better way to cope with your failures and accept them cause you are human and have the possibility to change your own future? I have and it's very hard because emotions are strong and they hurt. It's okay to cry and be emotional, they fade on their own and you don't need the fire water to ease them. It deprives your soul of the sadness it needs to find true happiness
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here is some encouragement

if you have kids, think of them. you wont want them copying you

or

think of your liver and body

you could have a severely inflamed liver, or hepatitis, cancer or cirrhosis

liver will repair if you cease

pray to God

dont die in your sins
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It's so easy to tell yourself "just one more day I'll drink, then I'll quit." The internal battle against the booze demon is heart wrenching.

Some of us go through periods where we don't drink at all; but then it just happens, and we slip, and the spiral begins again.

And then we hate ourselves and are disgusted, so we drink again and it's a horrible cycle.

I love alcohol, and I hate it. I hate the grip it has on me. I hate the internal battle. I hate knowing how amazing I am without it and how many talents I've blessed with but that one sip is all it takes. All it takes to spiral down again.

But you know what.... Those days like today, where I wrestle and wrestle against that horrible craving, and I WIN, those are the best.


You sit there, you get your keys, you give yourself every reason why it'll be okay to drive yourself to the liquor store one more time; but then you sit there and give yourself a hundred reasons not to.

I won't drink today.

If anyone has any encouragement I need it now more than ever.
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It's just a little alcohol. relax.

Have a drink cheers
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Replace one vice with one that is a bit less damaging.
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The gut microbiome is extremely out of whack with most alcoholics, the bugs that feed on alcohol will make you crave it like a strong compulsion because they want to get fed.

If you want to increase your odds of cleaning up you must detox and restore your gut microbiome.
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bump this is why moderation is good non-moderation means out of balance get in balance and good luck yeah may God bless you
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Thank you! I WILL NOT DRINK TODAY :) GOD BLESS YOU ALL
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It's so easy to tell yourself "just one more day I'll drink, then I'll quit." The internal battle against the booze demon is heart wrenching.

Some of us go through periods where we don't drink at all; but then it just happens, and we slip, and the spiral begins again.

And then we hate ourselves and are disgusted, so we drink again and it's a horrible cycle.

I love alcohol, and I hate it. I hate the grip it has on me. I hate the internal battle. I hate knowing how amazing I am without it and how many talents I've blessed with but that one sip is all it takes. All it takes to spiral down again.

But you know what.... Those days like today, where I wrestle and wrestle against that horrible craving, and I WIN, those are the best.


You sit there, you get your keys, you give yourself every reason why it'll be okay to drive yourself to the liquor store one more time; but then you sit there and give yourself a hundred reasons not to.

I won't drink today.

If anyone has any encouragement I need it now more than ever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8839208


Find a better way to cope with your failures and accept them cause you are human and have the possibility to change your own future? I have and it's very hard because emotions are strong and they hurt. It's okay to cry and be emotional, they fade on their own and you don't need the fire water to ease them. It deprives your soul of the sadness it needs to find true happiness
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Face your fears, dissolve cycles repetitious degenerates and and patience with yourself the most important part when you fall pick yourself up again just keep picking yourself up only you can do it you can't talk about it and hope it's going to get done. God bless
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1 is too many and 1000 is never enough.

As an ex heroin addict i got sick and tired of being sick and tired.
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I've never drank alcohol, never smoked, or done any type of drugs.

I don't eat junk food, fast food, or processed food either.
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You sound like a lot of fun!
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It truly is the key element of sobriety and healing from past transgressions.

Each day sober day is a gift you give yourself and your loved ones. Each sober day is an opportunity to allow the past to become less than the present.
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It's so easy to tell yourself "just one more day I'll drink, then I'll quit." The internal battle against the booze demon is heart wrenching.

Some of us go through periods where we don't drink at all; but then it just happens, and we slip, and the spiral begins again.

And then we hate ourselves and are disgusted, so we drink again and it's a horrible cycle.

I love alcohol, and I hate it. I hate the grip it has on me. I hate the internal battle. I hate knowing how amazing I am without it and how many talents I've blessed with but that one sip is all it takes. All it takes to spiral down again.

But you know what.... Those days like today, where I wrestle and wrestle against that horrible craving, and I WIN, those are the best.


You sit there, you get your keys, you give yourself every reason why it'll be okay to drive yourself to the liquor store one more time; but then you sit there and give yourself a hundred reasons not to.

I won't drink today.

If anyone has any encouragement I need it now more than ever.
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Stay strong brother. Just focus on how great you feel when you don't drink.
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It's so easy to tell yourself "just one more day I'll drink, then I'll quit." The internal battle against the booze demon is heart wrenching.

Some of us go through periods where we don't drink at all; but then it just happens, and we slip, and the spiral begins again.

And then we hate ourselves and are disgusted, so we drink again and it's a horrible cycle.

I love alcohol, and I hate it. I hate the grip it has on me. I hate the internal battle. I hate knowing how amazing I am without it and how many talents I've blessed with but that one sip is all it takes. All it takes to spiral down again.

But you know what.... Those days like today, where I wrestle and wrestle against that horrible craving, and I WIN, those are the best.


You sit there, you get your keys, you give yourself every reason why it'll be okay to drive yourself to the liquor store one more time; but then you sit there and give yourself a hundred reasons not to.

I won't drink today.

If anyone has any encouragement I need it now more than ever.
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Booze monkey is how they Old Testament your liver, many places all over the world people casually drink without a thought but in America Satan enjoys flipping Christians after the shoplifters have removed the goods and you go from nothing that goes in through the the mouth can harm you for it leaves through the draft, once the inner child of unrestricted faith is defeated through jury summons what’s your birthday and all manner of acts to reaffirm the old man in you they apply Old Testament law and kill you based on the consumption you have had the free pass on, its still murder and Christ said all day long my people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge, so now you know why America works so diligently to establish ream upon ream and line upon line to their law, they crucify Christ to the individual and then write songs about it and turn great profits
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If anyone has any encouragement I need it now more than ever.

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Having a support person/team will help greatly.

Tough to go it alone.
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The gut microbiome is extremely out of whack with most alcoholics, the bugs that feed on alcohol will make you crave it like a strong compulsion because they want to get fed.

If you want to increase your odds of cleaning up you must detox and restore your gut microbiome.
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Thats one thing that got me. Heart burn all the time, fire shits, stomach always feels like it was churning, food didnt taste good unless I was drinking. Im taking pro biotics again and feel alot better.

Its like when your gut is off balance it throws your whole body out of balance.

Something inside wants to drink but im slowly replacing them with natural gut flora.

I feel bored sometimes at night but I turn to reading or maybe run on treadmill for 20min. That usually stops the craving
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definitely

and don’t drink milk or eat cheese or ice cream! wheat and dairy cause irritability in some people, it has to do with not being able to digest them completely and this throws the gut flora out of balance, your only clue is you don’t feel at peace, hence the cravings

give up all wheat and dairy, start taking digestive enzymes and also some probiotics but give it time, like a few weeks, by then you’ll feel the cravings dwindling down to nothing

don’t underestimate the floral balance in the intestines and its power to completely ruin your health and how you feel, it even messes up your immune system quite badly
Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads.

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I went to AA twice. Took almost 2yrs to get back the 2nd time. My brother, (RIP), introduced me to a guy who told me about Recovery From Alcoholism. In June, it will be 39yrs of live in Recovery. This don't mean that I drink, it means that by putting my reliance Upon God, I can always remember Why I Don't Want To Take That First Drink...

The AA Big Book outlines how the 12 steps can lead to Recovery in the chapters How It Works, and Into Action. Everything starts with "Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path" and then they discuss how recovery requires complete honesty; honesty with yourself, not cash-register honesty. There is also a mention of how some people cannot be honest with themselves; saying "There are such unfortunates, they seem to have been born that way".

I learned 2nd time around that the 4th step was not about all the "bad" things I'd done in my life. I didn't have to do some Hazeldon list that went on to try and cover every crummy little thing I did as a kid or adult. I was looking with rigorous self-honest at the resentments I had with people in my life. This time I had to look at where I had been wrong and how each resentment was really caused by fear.

The Book says alcoholics are "driven by a thousand forms of fear" and after I made my list in the format shown in The Book, I could see where I had been at fault. The Book says alcoholics "try to control the world and people in it". When people don't pleasingly accept the roles we assign them to, we get resentful and drinking removes the pain of daily living.

The drinking is only a symptom, but eventually the alcohol stops working. It stopped for me. One evening after work, (I could no longer trust myself to drink, except at home), I drank a liter of 100 proof rum while watching a movie. When the movie and bottle were ended, I realized I didn't even have a buzz. I knew I was fucked, so I went back to AA.

Guy showed me how to do the 4th step and that once I gave my life to God (step 5) I would be Living In Recovery. The making amends, he said, was not about apologizing to everybody I'd hurt. What I needed to do was resolve not to make further decision based upon self and not put myself into situations where I could get hurt. He said that visiting old girl friends or people who were no longer actively in my life, was only self-indulgence. I needed to make amends to family members and others who were still involved with me that I had wronged.

I learned that there were maintenance steps that allowed me to re-establish the Relationship With God I had made in the early steps if I ever screwed up again. I went to AA for 5yrs. This is how I carry the message...

There is no "cure" for alcoholism, but there is Recovery. Whenever I think about how good a drink would be, I instantly remember that I don't want to drink and the results probably would not be "good". Having a Relationship With God enables me to have A Defense Against The First Drink. God has Given me a life so much greater than anything I ever imagined, much less hoped for.

If you are in fear of losing your life and "willing to go to any lengths to recover from alcoholism" and so motivated not to hold anything back; then The Steps Of Recovery can work for you. God will Bless your way!





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