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Pentagon Won’t Rule Out F-16s for Ukraine: ‘We’re Not Going to Take Anything Off the Table

 
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Pentagon Won’t Rule Out F-16s for Ukraine: ‘We’re Not Going to Take Anything Off the Table
The Biden administration would not rule out sending F-16s to Ukraine after it announced it was sending 31 Abrams M1A2 tanks.

After President Joe Biden announced the sending of the tanks, an adviser to Ukraine’s defense minister told Reuters that the country will now push for F-16s. “The next big hurdle will now be the fighter jets,” Yuriy Sak told the wire.

Pentagon Deputy Press Secretary Sabrina Singh, when pressed repeatedly at a briefing on Thursday, would not rule out sending the fourth-generation fighter jets.

“We haven’t announced other packages yet,” she said.



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Re: Pentagon Won’t Rule Out F-16s for Ukraine: ‘We’re Not Going to Take Anything Off the Table
The Biden administration would not rule out sending F-16s to Ukraine after it announced it was sending 31 Abrams M1A2 tanks.

After President Joe Biden announced the sending of the tanks, an adviser to Ukraine’s defense minister told Reuters that the country will now push for F-16s. “The next big hurdle will now be the fighter jets,” Yuriy Sak told the wire.

Pentagon Deputy Press Secretary Sabrina Singh, when pressed repeatedly at a briefing on Thursday, would not rule out sending the fourth-generation fighter jets.

“We haven’t announced other packages yet,” she said.



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 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


nothing off the table? So, maybe an aircraft carrier too? nukes?
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Re: Pentagon Won’t Rule Out F-16s for Ukraine: ‘We’re Not Going to Take Anything Off the Table
The Biden administration would not rule out sending F-16s to Ukraine after it announced it was sending 31 Abrams M1A2 tanks.

After President Joe Biden announced the sending of the tanks, an adviser to Ukraine’s defense minister told Reuters that the country will now push for F-16s. “The next big hurdle will now be the fighter jets,” Yuriy Sak told the wire.

Pentagon Deputy Press Secretary Sabrina Singh, when pressed repeatedly at a briefing on Thursday, would not rule out sending the fourth-generation fighter jets.

“We haven’t announced other packages yet,” she said.



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 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


nothing off the table? So, maybe an aircraft carrier too? nukes?
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wasnt there a recent comment by some guy in Dc . Something along the lines of you wanted to take on the government you needed a f-15 not different 15 ... hmmmm

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Coastie Patriot
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THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

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They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
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A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Oh hell yes, anything that weakens the USA. Traitors in the highest places of America.
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Bllh just use f35's ,f-16's where for fun ? well in our country then...would be a shame to screw that feeling up.
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Bllh just use f35's ,f-16's where for fun ? well in our country then...would be a shame to screw that feeling up.
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Russia wouldn't need missiles to take out the F-35s, they crash all on their own. they're like giant unpredictable suicide drones.
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Re: Pentagon Won’t Rule Out F-16s for Ukraine: ‘We’re Not Going to Take Anything Off the Table
Like milk, weapons have a “Best Before” date.

Even bombs and bullets.

Nato is using up old stocks and ordering new stuff, and pumping the economy.

F16’s are 40 years old.

Great fighter bombers, but they will be replaced by new planes.

And people like Lynn Cheney will get richer.
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Russia owns the sky over Ukraine & have had it that way for a long time. Ukraine uses drones to inflict damage because the minute they put up a jet it would be shot down. I doubt they have many left as they've likely been destroyed where they were parked. Even if the US gives them jets pilots flying an unfamiliar aircraft won't survive a dogfight or surface to air missiles.
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The folks at the pentagon are also trying to poison us all with covid vaccines. Bloodthirsty monsters is what they really are.
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All option were never on the table to begin with.. and so how did the Pentagoon like them whitewash crapples?

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When those of the Northern pole
are united together in the East will
be great fear and dread. A new
man elected, supported by the
great one who trembles, both
Rhodes and Byzantium will be
stained with Barbarian blood.


B: As long as things look totally hopeless, the Anti-Christ will seem all powerful and all conquering. But this is when his star is falling and his power is beginning to give way in certain crucial places. This refers to when those of the northern pole-that is the United States, Canada and Russia particularly, and later on, northern Europe-manage to unite together. Even though the Anti-Christ has taken over all of Asia, after a certain amount of time he's not able to control Russia. Russia breaks free and unites with those countries that have not yet been conquered. This union, particularly of the United States, Canada and Russia, strikes fear into the heart of the Anti-Christ because he can see the beginning of the end where he might fail at this point. So he chooses another field commander to continue the campaign, but this effort will fail. Rhodes and Byzantium, being major regional head-quarters, will see some of the bloodiest fighting. The northern pole alliance in their effort to break down his chain of command, communication and such, to help crumble his power, will try to wrest the rest of the world from his grasp.
D: They interpret this quatrain as an alliance with U.S. and Russia, but they think it is at the beginning of a war.
B: He says it will be the turning-point in this grand conflict where it will seem, for the first time, that maybe the good guys will come out on top after all.

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“Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who are now prophesying. Say to those who prophesy out of their own imagination: ‘Hear the word of [Enoch] the LORD!"

This is what [Archangel 'Chief Sitting Bull & Hitler' Michael] the Sovereign LORD says: "Woe to the foolish prophets who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing!.

Your prophets, Israel, are like foxes in the deserts. [repeat of G H.W 'King Akhenaten, Nebuchadnezzar, Herod & Uzziah a.k.a Azazel the Angel of Perdition' Bush Persians Gulf War from Operation Desert Fox again three times via Iraq, Afghanista, Bosnia, Libya, Syria, Yemen, Ukraine, et cetera].

You have not gone up to the breaches in the wall to repair it for the people of Israel so that it will stand firm in the battle on the day of [Enoch] the LORD.

Their visions are false and their divinations a lie. Even though [Enoch] the LORD has not sent them, they say, 'The LORD declares,' and expect him to fulfill their words.

Have you not seen false visions and uttered lying divinations when you say, 'The LORD declares,' though I have not spoken?."

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My hand will be against the prophets who see false visions and utter lying divinations. They will not belong to the council of my people or be listed in the records of Israel, nor will they enter the land of Israel. Then you will know that I am the Sovereign LORD.

Because they lead my people astray, saying, 'Peace,' when there is no peace, and because, when a flimsy wall is built, they cover it with whitewash,

therefore tell those who cover it with whitewash that it is going to fall. Rain will come in torrents, and I will send hailstones hurtling down, and violent winds will burst forth. [Hurricane Harvey 2017, Hurricane Michael 2018, Hurricane Dorian 2019, Hurricanes Hanna, Isaias and Sally 2020, et cetera, to 2022 for 2023 and on Biden three years of a hired hands]

When the wall collapses, will people not ask you, 'Where is the whitewash you covered it with?.'

Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: "In my wrath I will unleash a violent wind, and in my anger hailstones and torrents of rain will fall with destructive fury."

I will tear down the wall you have covered with whitewash and will level it to the ground so that its foundation will be laid bare. When it falls, you will be destroyed in it; and you will know that I am [Enoch] the LORD.

So I will pour out my wrath against the wall and against those who covered it with whitewash. I will say to you, “The wall is gone and so are those who whitewashed it,

those prophets of Israel who prophesied to Jerusalem and saw visions of peace for her when there was no peace." declares [Archangel 'Sitting Bull & Hitler a.k.a Angel of Peace' Michael] the Sovereign LORD. - Ezekiel 13:15-16 Vulgate Bible
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Please do it! Please! WW3 would be immediate!

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Re: Pentagon Won’t Rule Out F-16s for Ukraine: ‘We’re Not Going to Take Anything Off the Table
Russia owns the sky over Ukraine & have had it that way for a long time. Ukraine uses drones to inflict damage because the minute they put up a jet it would be shot down. I doubt they have many left as they've likely been destroyed where they were parked. Even if the US gives them jets pilots flying an unfamiliar aircraft won't survive a dogfight or surface to air missiles.
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Maybe you should watch Top Gun.
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Re: Pentagon Won’t Rule Out F-16s for Ukraine: ‘We’re Not Going to Take Anything Off the Table
A the rate Ukraine is losing aircraft, but far more importantly pilots, I am not sure how even F-16’s are going to help, unless they are flown by more “American Contractors”.

In recent days, Ukraine has already lost two more of the SU-25’s that were transferred from Bulgaria at the first of January. That makes 3-5 lost already, depending on the reports.

Switching to Western Aircraft means Western Pilots, and Western Mechanics. It will takes months or a year to transition anyone used to flying Soviet equipment.
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A the rate Ukraine is losing aircraft, but far more importantly pilots, I am not sure how even F-16’s are going to help, unless they are flown by more “American Contractors”.

In recent days, Ukraine has already lost two more of the SU-25’s that were transferred from Bulgaria at the first of January. That makes 3-5 lost already, depending on the reports.

Switching to Western Aircraft means Western Pilots, and Western Mechanics. It will takes months or a year to transition anyone used to flying Soviet equipment.
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But but but Russia is losing and Ukraine is winning bigly!! So says CNN!
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Russia owns the sky over Ukraine & have had it that way for a long time. Ukraine uses drones to inflict damage because the minute they put up a jet it would be shot down. I doubt they have many left as they've likely been destroyed where they were parked. Even if the US gives them jets pilots flying an unfamiliar aircraft won't survive a dogfight or surface to air missiles.
 Quoting: JustinCastro


Maybe you should watch Top Gun.
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Maybe you should've finished school. You actually believe that pilots flying an unfamiliar aircraft would be better than comparable pilots flying the jets they've always had. Not to mention Ukraine lost all their radar in the first week & that's kind of important don't ya think. I'll be waiting for your retarded reply knowing you won't disappoint.
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Russia owns the sky over Ukraine & have had it that way for a long time. Ukraine uses drones to inflict damage because the minute they put up a jet it would be shot down. I doubt they have many left as they've likely been destroyed where they were parked. Even if the US gives them jets pilots flying an unfamiliar aircraft won't survive a dogfight or surface to air missiles.
 Quoting: JustinCastro


Maybe you should watch Top Gun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74871273


Maybe you should've finished school. You actually believe that pilots flying an unfamiliar aircraft would be better than comparable pilots flying the jets they've always had. Not to mention Ukraine lost all their radar in the first week & that's kind of important don't ya think. I'll be waiting for your retarded reply knowing you won't disappoint.
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If they supply the F-16, that means it must take off from a specially prepared airfield, and unlike rugged soviet planes, they need a properly maintained ones… Ukraine cannot sustain having their airfields in pristine condition required to field NATO planes. So that means they need to take off somewhere in Poland or Moldova. This is by the book 100% an act of war from NATO and will be treated as such.
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Bllh just use f35's ,f-16's where for fun ? well in our country then...would be a shame to screw that feeling up.
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Russia wouldn't need missiles to take out the F-35s, they crash all on their own. they're like giant unpredictable suicide drones.
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But then ours get dragged into a stream that isnt funny...i never saw anything else then a f16 in our life.
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Re: Pentagon Won’t Rule Out F-16s for Ukraine: ‘We’re Not Going to Take Anything Off the Table
Like milk, weapons have a “Best Before” date.

Even bombs and bullets.

Nato is using up old stocks and ordering new stuff, and pumping the economy.

F16’s are 40 years old.

Great fighter bombers, but they will be replaced by new planes.

And people like Lynn Cheney will get richer.
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They mentioned 4th gen in the article. Can’t just add fresh to rotten milk, Can install new parts
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THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
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A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Re: Pentagon Won’t Rule Out F-16s for Ukraine: ‘We’re Not Going to Take Anything Off the Table
Russia owns the sky over Ukraine & have had it that way for a long time. Ukraine uses drones to inflict damage because the minute they put up a jet it would be shot down. I doubt they have many left as they've likely been destroyed where they were parked. Even if the US gives them jets pilots flying an unfamiliar aircraft won't survive a dogfight or surface to air missiles.
 Quoting: JustinCastro


Maybe you should watch Top Gun.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74871273


Maybe you should've finished school. You actually believe that pilots flying an unfamiliar aircraft would be better than comparable pilots flying the jets they've always had. Not to mention Ukraine lost all their radar in the first week & that's kind of important don't ya think. I'll be waiting for your retarded reply knowing you won't disappoint.
 Quoting: JustinCastro


If they supply the F-16, that means it must take off from a specially prepared airfield, and unlike rugged soviet planes, they need a properly maintained ones… Ukraine cannot sustain having their airfields in pristine condition required to field NATO planes. So that means they need to take off somewhere in Poland or Moldova. This is by the book 100% an act of war from NATO and will be treated as such.
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Yes agreed.
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