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Anonymous Coward User ID: 395509 United States 04/12/2008 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Talk about fucking bullshit. Whats next privatizing the air supply? How about they fit every toilet with a lock that you have to pay up front to use. After that they can install a lock on my dick that way there could be absolutely no theft. What a bunch of assholes. |
hardboiledheretic
User ID: 414166 United States 04/12/2008 10:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh yeah, I'm on the front lines, living on the Great Lakes. The feds haven't taken over yet but there's talk in our local newspaper about who really owns the water here? Are you freaking kidding me??? Not only the water, but some of our interstates in the US are being quietly sold to foreign investors. It's happening in baby steps so the people won't notice. Yeah, and privately owned property and even the air might be next. Jordan Maxwell talked about this years ago. You can find it on YouTube or Google. No linky, I stinky. Sorry, but the info is there. No time to look it up right now. hbh |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 316413 Canada 04/12/2008 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "If you want to know where the water is running low (including 36 U.S. states), why we haven't been able to protect it and what we can do to ensure everyone has the right to water, Barlow's book is an essential read. It is part science, part policy and part impassioned call. And the information in Blue Covenant couldn't come from a more reliable source. Barlow is the national chairperson of the Council of Canadians and co-founder of the Blue Planet Project, which is instrumental in the international community in working for the right to water for all people. She also authored Blue Gold: The Fight to Stop Corporate Theft of the World's Water with Tony Clarke. And she's the recipient of the Right Livelihood Award (known as the "Alternative Nobel") for her global water justice work." [link to www.alternet.org] Complaining that all the "real" jobs are outsourced is racist. |
Aresh
User ID: 409699 United States 04/12/2008 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is also a probable control on not just sources of water, but water itself... what i'm saying is you are mostly water... get it? I WILL NOT let consequences dictate my course of action! A.K.A - Aresh, Awakened Me, An Ominous Coward (Howard), The Goddess Pandora, Aumon Haht Fith Ashai, Within The Flower and a few others... ------------------------------------ In all things, i am flowing back thru and in and out, within and without and beyond them. This is the Cosm. This is both I and You. I am the Truth, and I am the Lie - I am the very spark of the Divine! ------------------ as soon as you even go near these things your ego knows what it is.. its all like "what ya gonna do with that?" "Hope you not gonna take it" "cause i will throw myself down on the floor and scratch, claw and bite and tantrum" - Kyuubi "the gift of love makes much more sense than frankincense gold and myrhh" - Only Me |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 412066 United Kingdom 04/12/2008 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess what guys ... it's official; water is NOT a human right! UN rejects water as basic human right Mike De Souza , Canwest News Service Published: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 OTTAWA - The Harper government can declare victory after a United Nations meeting rejected calls for water to be recognized as a basic human right. Instead, a special resolution proposed by Germany and Spain at the UN human rights council was stripped of references that recognized access to water as a human right. The countries also chose to scrap the idea of creating an international watchdog to investigate the issue, choosing instead to appoint a new consultant that would make recommendations over the next three years. Federal officials in Canada said last week that the government wanted to ensure the meeting's outcome reflected the fact that access to water is not formally recognized as a human right in international law. But a social advocacy group said that the position was designed to protect the right to sell water under the North American Free Trade Agreement. Full article is here >>> [link to www.canada.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 376759 United States 04/13/2008 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is also a probable control on not just sources of water, but water itself... Quoting: Areshwhat i'm saying is you are mostly water... get it? You mean my PISS could be arrested? Kinda gives the term "hold your water" a whole new meaning don't it. I for one don't want to have to go downtown some Saturday night and bail out my piss. Besides when I got it back home what would I do with it? Save it for the hearing? |
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User ID: 294391 United States 04/13/2008 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess what guys ... it's official; water is NOT a human right! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 412066UN rejects water as basic human right March 25, 2008 OTTAWA - The Harper government can declare victory after a United Nations meeting rejected calls for water to be recognized as a basic human right. In the USA, neither water nor food is a basic human right. A court can order both withheld. Never forget... March 2005, a US court ordered water and food withheld from Terri Schiavo... she dehydrated to death 13 days later while police stood guard to make sure no one gave her even a tiny drop of water. ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Beyond, There Be Dragons ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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User ID: 407881 United States 04/13/2008 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its part of the UN agenda 21. H.B. 416 The Great Lakes St. Lawrence River Basin Water Resources Compact That's right...A CALL TO ARMS. As in...Arm yourself with the facts and start acting on this issue. We are on the front lines here. Our liberty is in jeopardy. There is no other choice than for ALL OF US to take action NOW. I have included this issue in every Patriotic Posting for over a week. And I just don't think some of the people reading the Postings get the serious nature of the issue at hand for the Great Lakes yet. SO...Let me get everybody up to snuff on what we need to do here. It is very important that we ALL act upon this ASAP in some way. * WRITE YOUR REPRESENTATIVES * CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES * WRITE A LETTER TO YOUR EDITOR * CALL IN TO A TALK RADIO SHOW ON THE ISSUE * FORWARD THIS TO YOUR LIKE-MINDED FRIENDS * GO TO COLUMBUS TO TESTIFY ON THIS ISSUE * GET INVOLVED...STAY INVOLVED! THIS IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE REAL ID We must STOP this UN Agend21 DEAD In It's Tracks Coming to a neighborhood near you? It's Already Here! SYNOPSIS Great Lakes Water Resources Compact It's about UN Agenda 21 styled attempt to take complete control of the Great Lakes including Lake Erie, and take all other private water rights away from everyone in Ohio, and seven other states. Ohio's back is up against the wall on this now. As of March 22, Michigan is the only state that has not passed any legislation on the Great Lakes St. Lawrence River Basin Water Resources Compact in either legislative chamber. In Wisconsin, Ohio and Pennsylvania legislation has passed in only one legislative chamber but has not become law. The other four states involved in which the compact has been signed into law are New York, Minnesota, Indiana and Illinois. We don't need the Compact as we already have a Federal law protecting diversion of Lake Erie water that was passed in 1986 and renewed in 2007. It is called the "Water Resource Development Act". Rep. Mathew Dolan sponsors this new bill to "protect" our already protected water. It will do just the opposite! The wording in it will place all water of the "Basin" under state control (public/state trust). Understand, that the "Basin" is not the edge of Lake Erie but extends deep inland. This means your private wells, ponds and streams will be put in a "public/state trust" controlled by the state. Your GOD given right to water will be converted to a privilege under state control, thru the "public/state trust". This "privilege" can be revoked at anytime by the state and there is no law to protect you from that if your water is in a "public/state trust". This is what Rep. Mathew Dolan wants. Who among you trusts the government that much?! It is also VERY interesting that the first official action that incoming New York governor David Patterson took (even before being officially sworn into office) was to sign the Great Lakes Compact. More Great Lakes Water Resources Compact info COMPARISON OF THE AGENDA 21 CHAPTER 18 AND THE GREAT LAKES WATER COMPACT. United Nations Agenda 21 chapter 18. [link to www.un.org] Great Lakes Water Compact as passed by the house. [link to www.legislature.state.oh.us] My goodness! The wording looks very much the same in both...wouldn't you say? FAQ on the Compact by the Council Of Great Lakes Governors [link to www.cglg.org] Just to give you an idea of where they stand on the issue MORE ON UNITED NATIONS AGENDA 21 [link to www.crossroad.to] Agenda 21 As Posted On The UN Website [link to www.un.org] FREEDOM 21 [link to www.freedom21.org] MORE ON THE GREAT LAKES COMPACT www.greatlakeswaterwars.com FULL DETAILS [link to www.cglg.org] HOW THE MEDIA SPINS IT [link to www.wkyc.com] [link to www.wcpn.org] WE NEED TO BE SURE TO CONTACT THESE STATE SENATORS! LET THEM KNOW * The Great Lakes St. Lawrence River Basin Water Resources Compact is UNCONSTITUTIONAL * We do not need this unconstitutional Great Lakes St. Lawrence River Basin Water Resources Compact * We do not want this unconstitutional Great Lakes St. Lawrence River Basin Water Resources Compact * We already have the "Water Resource Development Act" which protects the Great Lakes very well * And we are not about to accept this Agenda 21 styled legislation which could infringe upon our personal property rights Our voices do make a difference. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK AND KEEP CALLING Ron Amstutz Telephone: 614/466-7505 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Wooster Steve Austria Telephone: 614/466-3780 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Beavercreek John Boccieri Telephone: 614/466-8285 Email: [email protected] Hometown: New Middletown Steve Buehrer Telephone: 614/466-8150 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Delta Capri Cafaro Telephone: 614/466-7182 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Hubbard John Carey Telephone: 614/466-8156 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Wellston Gary Cates Telephone: 614/466-8072 Email: [email protected] Hometown: West Chester Kevin Coughlin Telephone: 614/466-4823 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Cuyahoga Falls Keith Faber Telephone: 614/466-7584 Fax: 614/644-7339 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Celina Teresa Fedor Telephone: 614/466-5204 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Toledo David Goodman Telephone: 614/466-8064 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Columbus Tomothy Grendell (thumbs UP) Telephone: 614/644-7718 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Chesterland Bill Harris Telephone: 614/466-8086 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Ashland Jeff Jacobson Telephone: 614/466-4538 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Butler Township Eric Kearney Telephone: 614/466-5980 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Cincinnati Lance Mason Telephone: 614/466-4583 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Cleveland Dale Miller (thumbs DOWN) Telephone: 614/466-5123 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Cleveland Ray Miller Telephone: 614/466-5131 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Columbus Sue Morano Telephone: 614/644-7613 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Lorain Larry Mumper (thumbs UP) Telephone: 614/466-8049 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Marion Tom Niehaus Telephone: 614/466-8082 Email: [email protected] Hometown: New Richmond Joy Padgett Telephone: 614/466-8076 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Coshocton Tom Roberts Telephone: 614/466-6247 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Trotwood Tom Sawyer Telephone: 614/466-7041 Email: [email protected] TimSchaffer Telephone: 614/466-5838 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Lancaster Robert Schuler Telephone: 614/466-9737 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Sycamore Township Kirk Schuring Telephone: 614/466-0626 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Canton Bill Seitz Telephone: 614/466-8068 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Cincinnati Shirley Smith Telephone: 614/466-4857 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Cleveland Robert Spada Telephone: 614/466-8056 Email: [email protected] Hometown: North Royalton Steve Stivers Telephone: 614/466-5981 Fax: 614/466-0101 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Columbus Mark Wagoner Telephone: 614/466-8060 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Toledo Jason Wilson Telephone: 614/466-6508 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Columbiana THE STATE REPRESENTATIVES...Who Voted NO Contact them to THANK them for doing so, and ask for their continued support against this legislation. WE NEED THEIR INPUT AND HELP Fessler, Diana M. Republican 79 City: Bethel Township Telephone: (614) 466-8114 Email Address: [email protected] Batchelder, William G. Republican 69 Telephone: (614) 466-1507 Email Address: [email protected] Adams, John Republican 78 City: Sidney Telephone: (614) 466-1507 Email Address: [email protected] JUST DO IT! STATE SENATORS ON OUR SIDE Tomothy Grendell Telephone: 614/644-7718 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Chesterland Larry Mumper Telephone: 614/466-8049 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Marion KNOWN SUPPORTERS OF H.B.416 Rep. Mathew Dolan (Sponsor) 77 S. High St 13th Floor Columbus, OH 43215-6111 Telephone: (614) 644-5088 Fax : (614) 719-6998 Email Address: [email protected] Term in Office: 2nd City: Novelty Sen. Dale Miller Telephone: 614/466-5123 Email: [email protected] Hometown: Cleveland Call and give em the raspberries. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TIME TO TAKE SOME ACTION AND WRITE A LETTER. from Ed Corsi - sample Letter to Editors (sample) To the Editor. Over the past few weeks I have seen letters from just a few people who continually blast state Senator Tim Grendell for his stand about the Lake Erie Water Compact issue. They say he should be run out of office because he is not protecting our water. These distorted letters, written by people who are ignorant of the truthful facts are disturbing to me. Ignorance in action is a frightful thing! Senator Grendell is protecting our water! I and others have done research on this because we too are concerned about our water. Here is what most people do not know. We don't need the Compact as we already have a Federal law protecting diversion of Lake Erie water that was passed in 1986 and renewed in 2007. It is called the "Water Resource Development Act". It seems to have been working very well all these years! Now here comes state Rep. Mathew Dolan who sponsors a bill to "protect" our already protected water. It will do just the opposite! The wording in it will place all water of the "Basin" under state control (public/state trust). Understand, that the "Basin" is not the edge of Lake Erie but extends deep inland and Geauga County is in the "Basin". This means your private wells, ponds and streams will be put in a "public/state trust" controlled by the state. Your GOD given right to water will be converted to a privilege under state control, thru the "public/state trust". This "privilege" can be revoked at anytime by the state and there is no law to protect you from that if your water is in a "public/state trust". This is what Rep. Mathew Dolan wants. Who among you trusts the government that much?! (composed by) Edmund Corsi Chesterland Compose your own letter to the editor and get it out ASAP. Just Google your local paper...it's easy! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CALL YOUR FAVORITE TALK RADIO SHOW WNIR 100.1 FM has a wide listening range. 330-673-1234 1-800-669-4100 But there are many others. Call in and inform the public of this issue. The mainstream media mass mind manipulation machine isn't going to. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ FORWARD...FORWARD....FORWARD There are many people out there who do not belong to a MeetUp group, that feel very much the same as we all do about what is going on in government. Send this out to them and invite them to get involved in some way. Call them if they are not on line. While you are at it, invite people to join a Ron Paul MeetUp group, if for no other reason than to stay informed on just such issues. www.ronpaul.meetup.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GO TO COLUMBUS AND SPEAK OUT AGAINST THIS H.B.416 On Wednesday, April 16 the Ohio Senate Environmental and Natural Resources Committee will be hearing testimony on H.B. 416. This is Rep. Matt Dolan's version of the Great Lakes Compact. Any citizen that is concerned about this issue may speak and share your thoughts with the committee. People are needed to voice opposition to the Great Lakes Compact. The more the better. If you are able to go to Columbus on Wednesday, please do so. You can e-mail people within your group and ride together. WHO CAN GO??? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- GET INVOLVED...STAY INVOLVED! We are all in this together. This is not an issue that should concern any particular party. It DOES CONCERN everyone in any of the states named. And it will effect ALL of the people of the United States. Any questions...e-mail me [email protected] I will do the best I can for you. Now let's get to work. Viva the REVOLUTION! Let it not be said that we did nothing... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 414988 New Zealand 04/13/2008 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one owns the water. Next thing you know, these idiots will be laying claim to cloud, mist and fog. What about the urine in one's body - which technically could be reconstituted back to basic elements. How are they gonna manage that? Will it be illegal to take a pee in future? What about condensation from glass panels, or anywhere where there is a temperature difference between two surfaces. How are they gonna manage that? Quite simply, when financial systems, markets, supply and demand and the money-go-round system cease to exist, so to will all these dopey 'made-for-money' schemes. It's easy to predict.. when there is no currency system anymore, this will all stop. Hehe.. Can't wait! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 414988 New Zealand 04/13/2008 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Control the food, control the water and you control the people. I believe it was Henry Kissinger who first made this observation when speaking about the importance of depopulation through the use of eugenics. Obviously good old Henry realized that overtaking the food and water supplies would go a long way in deciding who had a right to life.[Unquote] Henry Kissinger has a lot to answer for. The sooner he departs this earth plane the better. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 403022 United States 04/13/2008 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As water decreases and wells and water sources dry up, would you want some form of water control? How about people that waste it or water their lawns or fill up their swimming pools? If it comes to that, we'll need some kind of control. Maybe that's what this is all about. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 212087 United States 04/14/2008 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Agenda 21 is most dangerous, Jimmy Communist Carter signed this treaty with the UN in the late 70's. All wells eventually will have meters on them to keep our usage recorded. Why? Because the communist UN has worked diligently to tax us in the USA any way they could, they want control of our water of us. I think Santa Cruz CA was to be the first community to install well meters. The public is still fighting the issue I think. A frightening situation, as we here in the Klamath Basin in Oregon are asked to agree to letting the local indian tribes control all water both surface and well water. This includes domestic wells. 4 hydroelectric dams are to be torn out on the theory that salmon might run to the Klamath Lake if the dams are gone. Never mind 70,000 people get power from these dams, never mind the entire project will cost TAX payers over 10 years 990 million dollars. No decision has been made as of yet, but it doesn;'t matter they will come back, again and again with even more outragious demands. The Klamath Tribes sold their lands in the 60's, they were left the hunting and fishing rights on a million acres. Today we have an alignment with indian tribes and the eco-terrorists the wealthy idiots with more money than brains who finance them. together they are working to steal back all they were paid quite well for their lands 43K in the60s was a bunch of money at the time. TO me it is like me going to someone who owns land my grandfather sold off 50 years ago, and demanding I get the land back because my grandpa owned it! they want a soverign nation, yet they want to be part of our society....reality is the indians are allowing the NWO bafoons use them, use their cause, in the end we will ALL lose! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 415001 Australia 04/14/2008 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As water decreases and wells and water sources dry up, would you want some form of water control? How about people that waste it or water their lawns or fill up their swimming pools? If it comes to that, we'll need some kind of control. Maybe that's what this is all about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 403022You can kiss my culo you shill fuck. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 414988 New Zealand 04/14/2008 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same situation occurs in New Zealand. The indigenous people there are at loggerheads with the Government on very much the same thing. The Government want to control the seabed, foreshore, rivers, lakes - and keep the resources under their control. Call it a legacy of Colonial British rule since 1840. |
sunra nli User ID: 353725 United States 04/14/2008 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok... i thought i was scared of where this globalized situation was going... now i am really scared... too many people... too many people... regular joe can't keep up with the information... well informed joesephine can't keep up with the information... fuck water as commodity... controlled by government... i don't send off letters, or phone congress or senate... i am done being afraid of their blacklists... i am more scared of what we face in ten - twenty years if i don't do anything now... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 290186 Australia 04/14/2008 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As water decreases and wells and water sources dry up, would you want some form of water control? How about people that waste it or water their lawns or fill up their swimming pools? If it comes to that, we'll need some kind of control. Maybe that's what this is all about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 403022Its about 1 bucket of water per person, per day! Administered by the United Nations and the International Monetary Fund. Simple, you have NO control and your permission isn't sought nor required. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 290186 Australia 04/14/2008 07:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Who cares about this powerless act? If you live next to a lake or pond, whats the government gonna do? Put up a huge fence and guard it 24/7? Use your brains, its not as hard as it seems." You would be surprised. Where I live you pay the authorities a certain amount depending on the size of your water tank and the space on your roof (used for rainwater harvesting) Same goes for dams and wells. You pay to have the dam constructed and you pay the government (or the UN) according to how many mega litres your dam holds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 415149 Australia 04/14/2008 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ok... i thought i was scared of where this globalized situation was going... Quoting: sunra nli 353725now i am really scared... too many people... too many people... regular joe can't keep up with the information... well informed joesephine can't keep up with the information... fuck water as commodity... controlled by government... i don't send off letters, or phone congress or senate... i am done being afraid of their blacklists... i am more scared of what we face in ten - twenty years if i don't do anything now... I'd like to cave your head in you fucking kike slut. |
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