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Ukraine Says Expedited Talks For F-16 Jets Underway As Germany Counters 'Not An Option'



The Ukrainian presidency's office is saying that it is already engaged in expedited negotiations with the US regarding the possibility of supplying Kiev forces with long-range missiles and military jets. This despite German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who was key in the decision of Berlin and Washington to approve tanks, earlier saying that sending jets is not an option.

Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Zelesnky, was cited in The Associated Press on Saturday as saying that "fast-track" talks are taking place for jets, and which also focus on long-range missiles "to drastically curtail the key tool of the Russian army" by providing the ability to attack weapons warehouses far behind front lines.



Simultaneously, reports emerged in US media over the weekend signaling that a movement within the Pentagon is now gaining steam to press the Biden administration into signing off on jets for Ukraine.

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Hey biden! Hey zelensky...


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Re: Growing number of Pentagon officials signal they are not opposed to giving Ukraine F-16s
Good. That is really what they need.

Take away russia's air superiority and they will lose badly.
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Biden's born in Israel staff could care less what the pentagon thinks
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Good. That is really what they need.

Take away russia's air superiority and they will lose badly.
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F-16 is not a good match for the russians 4th and 5th gen fighters, they would be blown out of the skies the first day
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Re: Growing number of Pentagon officials signal they are not opposed to giving Ukraine F-16s
Michael Anton remarks that the United States ‘is no longer a republic, much less a democracy, but rather a kind of hybrid corporate-administrative oligarchy’.

Cycle theory predicts that every more or less good regime – whether monarchy, aristocracy, or democracy – falls when it inevitably becomes overbearing and odious. Thus do monarchies degenerate into tyrannies, which are replaced by aristocracies that decay into oligarchies, which are overthrown by democracies that descend into mob-rule or even anarchy.

He also notes that around a hundred million immigrants, from many different countries, have arrived in the United States since 1965, accounting for at least two-thirds of its population growth.
This is unprecedented in human history, as is the fact that these migrants ‘are exhorted to embrace their native cultures and taught that the country to which they’ve chosen to immigrate is the worst in world history’.

The most common (one may say only) way that multi-ethnic societies have been successfully governed is centrally, from the top, by some form of one-man rule, whether monarchical, Caesarist, or tyrannical. This, ultimately, is how Rome ‘solved’ the problem of admitting so many foreigners to citizenship, to say nothing of its far-flung conquest of peoples whom it never made citizens. In more recent times, one may think of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Tito’s Yugoslavia.

He also observes that the ruling elites ‘seem determined to make the American population fat, weak, ugly, lethargic, drug-addled, screen-addicted, and hyper-sexualized, the men effeminate and the women masculine’. He expects the US to undergo either imminent collapse or drawn-out decline.

Chris Hedges points out that fading empires often indulge in ill-considered military adventures in a desperate attempt to recover lost power and prestige. He sees this as the reason for the United States’ decades-long military fiascos and the increase in tensions with Russia and China – and it makes little difference whether Republican imperialists or Democrat ‘liberal interventionists’ are in power. He draws parallels with the Roman empire, which created a military machine that – like the Pentagon – was a state within a state: ‘Rome’s military rulers, led by Augustus, snuffed out the remnants of Rome’s anemic democracy and ushered in a period of despotism that saw the empire disintegrate under the weight of extravagant military expenditures and corruption.’

He believes that the loss of the dollar as the global reserve currency will usher in a severe economic depression and will ‘probably mark the final chapter of the American empire’. He foresees a bleak future:

The mechanisms, already in place, for total social control, militarized police, a suspension of civil liberties, wholesale government surveillance, enhanced ‘terrorism’ laws that railroad people into the world’s largest prison system and censorship overseen by the digital media monopolies will seamlessly cement into place a police state.





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Re: Growing number of Pentagon officials signal they are not opposed to giving Ukraine F-16s
Michael Anton remarks that the United States ‘is no longer a republic, much less a democracy, but rather a kind of hybrid corporate-administrative oligarchy’.

Cycle theory predicts that every more or less good regime – whether monarchy, aristocracy, or democracy – falls when it inevitably becomes overbearing and odious. Thus do monarchies degenerate into tyrannies, which are replaced by aristocracies that decay into oligarchies, which are overthrown by democracies that descend into mob-rule or even anarchy.

He also notes that around a hundred million immigrants, from many different countries, have arrived in the United States since 1965, accounting for at least two-thirds of its population growth.
This is unprecedented in human history, as is the fact that these migrants ‘are exhorted to embrace their native cultures and taught that the country to which they’ve chosen to immigrate is the worst in world history’.

The most common (one may say only) way that multi-ethnic societies have been successfully governed is centrally, from the top, by some form of one-man rule, whether monarchical, Caesarist, or tyrannical. This, ultimately, is how Rome ‘solved’ the problem of admitting so many foreigners to citizenship, to say nothing of its far-flung conquest of peoples whom it never made citizens. In more recent times, one may think of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and Tito’s Yugoslavia.

He also observes that the ruling elites ‘seem determined to make the American population fat, weak, ugly, lethargic, drug-addled, screen-addicted, and hyper-sexualized, the men effeminate and the women masculine’. He expects the US to undergo either imminent collapse or drawn-out decline.

Chris Hedges points out that fading empires often indulge in ill-considered military adventures in a desperate attempt to recover lost power and prestige. He sees this as the reason for the United States’ decades-long military fiascos and the increase in tensions with Russia and China – and it makes little difference whether Republican imperialists or Democrat ‘liberal interventionists’ are in power. He draws parallels with the Roman empire, which created a military machine that – like the Pentagon – was a state within a state: ‘Rome’s military rulers, led by Augustus, snuffed out the remnants of Rome’s anemic democracy and ushered in a period of despotism that saw the empire disintegrate under the weight of extravagant military expenditures and corruption.’

He believes that the loss of the dollar as the global reserve currency will usher in a severe economic depression and will ‘probably mark the final chapter of the American empire’. He foresees a bleak future:

The mechanisms, already in place, for total social control, militarized police, a suspension of civil liberties, wholesale government surveillance, enhanced ‘terrorism’ laws that railroad people into the world’s largest prison system and censorship overseen by the digital media monopolies will seamlessly cement into place a police state.





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And there is the spiritual end of it, the bible talks about that very same thing.

A nation that once new God and had all its blessings will be destroyed by the Hand of God if they do not repent.

Its in the bible and its happening just like the bible says but its global not just the USA.
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Re: Growing number of Pentagon officials signal they are not opposed to giving Ukraine F-16s
Good. That is really what they need.

Take away russia's air superiority and they will lose badly.
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F-16 is not a good match for the russians 4th and 5th gen fighters, they would be blown out of the skies the first day
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The F16 is as good as its weapons systems and radar. That ranges from antiquated to as modern as anything out there on any aircraft.

It's a very sound plane,Cheap and easy to maintain. It flies very well.

It's biggest drawback is that you have to choose between range, weapons load out, and agility. For area defense where range doesn't matter you throw 2 sparrows and 2 Aim120s on it and that bird can fly.
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Re: Growing number of Pentagon officials signal they are not opposed to giving Ukraine F-16s
Tanks
Money
Fighter Jets
Small arms
Ammo

They are depleting our gear

They are setting up the few obedient soldiers like pawns on a shitty chess game

They are trying to get off the genocide vaccine hook
They have us completely surrounded...those poor bastards
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Re: Growing number of Pentagon officials signal they are not opposed to giving Ukraine F-16s
You speaketh as if all the Pentagon officials are human being..

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Re: Growing number of Pentagon officials signal they are not opposed to giving Ukraine F-16s
Tanks
Money
Fighter Jets
Small arms
Ammo

They are depleting our gear

They are setting up the few obedient soldiers like pawns on a shitty chess game

They are trying to get off the genocide vaccine hook
 Quoting: Scorched


Those weapons were created to defeat russia and china.

Doesnt matter is it is an american or an eastern european pulling the trigger.
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Re: Growing number of Pentagon officials signal they are not opposed to giving Ukraine F-16s
Good. That is really what they need.

Take away russia's air superiority and they will lose badly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85140861


F-16 is not a good match for the russians 4th and 5th gen fighters, they would be blown out of the skies the first day
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82416638


Russia is barely flying their own planes and losing many they do fly.
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Re: Growing number of Pentagon officials signal they are not opposed to giving Ukraine F-16s
Tanks
Money
Fighter Jets
Small arms
Ammo

They are depleting our gear

They are setting up the few obedient soldiers like pawns on a shitty chess game

They are trying to get off the genocide vaccine hook
 Quoting: Scorched


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