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for some of us reincarnation is real and we just accepted it as a child

for others, it may be harder to accept it

i love the bible and all of The Christ's teachings, and I am not religious, i am a spiritual seeker

Jesus was showing us all a pattern to live by, which can be extremely difficult at times

Jesus had past lives also
He was Amilius, Adam, Melchizedek, Enoch, and many others before He reincarnated as Jesus

as Melchizedek, He finally United with His Godhead and He knew at that time, He would need to come back down and teach us all to do it as well

He reincarnated again, as many others before He became Jesus

here is an excerpt from Cayce reading 262-36
THE CROSS AND THE CROWN Lesson X - A Search for God, Book I pp. 107 - 108

Comments by Gladys Davis Turner - 5/9/60 on tape for Study Groups:

(Q) Why did He come into the world as a man that He might bear a cross? (A) For me, the answer to why He came is found in the Edgar Cayce readings' explanation of the incarnations of the soul who became Jesus.

First, as Amilius, He led - or projected - souls into the earth as thought forms.

Then He came as Adam, the first physical man, who "fell" in the flesh and thus it became necessary for him to eventually come as the last Adam to show us the way. Thirdly He came as Enoch, who walked with God and was not because God took him.

Then He came as Melchizedek, the prince of Salem, without father, without mother, without days; he was not born and he did not die. Abraham paid tithes to Melchizedek. Many parallels can be found here with the life of Jesus. According to the readings Melchizedek, as I understand it, had attained the state of mastership such as we find in the so-called Eastern masters. In order to save the souls who had become involved in the earth because of his example, he then realized he would have to start all over in the earth and really go through all the trials and tribulations just as every other soul. [As Melchizedek he wrote the Book of Job. See 5719-14, Par. 9-A; 262-55, Par. 14-A; and 3744-4, Par. 37-A.]

He came then as Joseph. We see many parallels here with Jesus.

Then He came as Joshua, the medium through which Moses obtained the laws on the mount.

Next He came as Jeshua, the scribe, who compiled and rewrote the Biblical record as we have it to that date.

Then He came into the earth as Zend [San - Zan?], father of the first Zoroaster, who wrote - the readings say - the Zend Avesta, sacred writings of the Persians.

Finally He came as Jesus, the last Adam, in whom we all may be made alive - or at one with our Creator.

Until He started over again as Joseph, he had not actually taken on the trials and tribulations of man. He chose, as Melchizedek, to come down into the depths of materiality, and He moved step by step back to the father. Having chosen to do this, it was not possible then for him to get out of the flesh without perfecting himself in the flesh.

Nothing is said in the story of the prodigal son about how long it took him to return to his father after he had decided he would return.

Gradually, life after life, here a little, there a little, the soul perfected itself in the earth and, as Jesus, took his spiritualized body back to God, becoming the Christ. According to the Edgar Cayce readings each of us must do the same.
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So all those famous amazing people were just puppets operated by an Oversoul and then dissolved back into the Oversoul after their life on earth was done. And no longer exist as individuals.
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OP, am curious if you've ever seen movie Cloud Atlas? Or conversely read the book (which is sitting in one of my "to read one day" bookshelves)?

I saw that movie, on the big screen, three times. Thought it was one of the better vehicles to even attempt the subject given the depth of it.
And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm

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He came as both Joseph and Jesus?

So he was two people living at the same time?

That's kind of odd don't you think?
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He came as both Joseph and Jesus?

So he was two people living at the same time?

That's kind of odd don't you think?
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Not really.

I examined my past lives and fond I had been living up to 8 at once.

I had experimented and found any more that that alive at once makes them all go crazy. They start to bleed into one another.

Because I slipped free of the creatures running the reincarnation scheme I could chose my own paths and lessons.

My wife has lived 465 incarnations here on Earth, not all of them as a human being.

I have lived 2474. Many more not on Earth.


You don't have to do what anyone else tells you to do just because they said it or were dressed to impress.

In the 1960's I was two famous musicians who knew each other who were slightly fascinated with each other but could not work out why.

Both died under mysterious circumstances. One was black the other was white.

From two different streams of time. One had last incarnated 2 thousand years previously to being a Black musician and innovator of his instrument.

It was a "Holiday" incarnation, after a failed incarnation where a lot of effort was put in only to not get the desired result (Immortality for humanity).

I have watched people here lifetime after lifetime.

The rulers today, were the same people who ruled in ancient times. They did deals with the masters of the reincarnation system to get themselves directly reincarnated back into their own families and family wealth. (they hate me telling you that)


You don't have to put up with their incompetent shit if you really don't want to.
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He came as both Joseph and Jesus?

So he was two people living at the same time?

That's kind of odd don't you think?
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No. The Joseph son of Jacob who was sold and taken to Egypt
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I’ll never understand why people seek alternate resources based in non-truths such as the idea of reincarnation and false assumptions like it other than the fact that God foretold this would happen as people have itching ears so it’s not a surprise.

The KJV Bible is God’s word. God spoke into existence the heavens and the earth and all life. God is limited by nothing and is outside of time, space, and matter. God is omnipotent meaning He’s all-powerful and can do anything and this includes having His Word written through men moved by the Holy Spirit. Reincarnation isn’t real, it’s completely a false idea rooted in nothing.

Why would anyone ever stray from the source which is God and His Word? Everything one needs to know is in the Bible. Everything else contrary to His Word is meant to deceive and mislead people often to the destruction of their souls and is from the evil one (who’s only goal is to deceive and send souls to hell).

God makes it very simple to be saved, I’ll never understand why people choose to seek non-truths backed by zero evidence.
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I’ll never understand why people seek alternate resources based in non-truths such as the idea of reincarnation and false assumptions like it other than the fact that God foretold this would happen as people have itching ears so it’s not a surprise.

The KJV Bible is God’s word. God spoke into existence the heavens and the earth and all life. God is limited by nothing and is outside of time, space, and matter. God is omnipotent meaning He’s all-powerful and can do anything and this includes having His Word written through men moved by the Holy Spirit. Reincarnation isn’t real, it’s completely a false idea rooted in nothing.

Why would anyone ever stray from the source which is God and His Word? Everything one needs to know is in the Bible. Everything else contrary to His Word is meant to deceive and mislead people often to the destruction of their souls and is from the evil one (who’s only goal is to deceive and send souls to hell).

God makes it very simple to be saved, I’ll never understand why people choose to seek non-truths backed by zero evidence.
 Quoting: Seek^


The churches I attended taught people to connect directly to God.

People did what God taught them to do and they threw away their Bibles because they had God instead.

That is what God actual thinks of the Bible compared to having him as your personal guide and teacher.

All English versions are incorrect. Theologians learn to read the scriptures in the original languages they were written in.

talk to one of them and they will tell you have badly mistranslated the English versions are.
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I’ll never understand why people seek alternate resources based in non-truths such as the idea of reincarnation and false assumptions like it other than the fact that God foretold this would happen as people have itching ears so it’s not a surprise.

The KJV Bible is God’s word. God spoke into existence the heavens and the earth and all life. God is limited by nothing and is outside of time, space, and matter. God is omnipotent meaning He’s all-powerful and can do anything and this includes having His Word written through men moved by the Holy Spirit. Reincarnation isn’t real, it’s completely a false idea rooted in nothing.

Why would anyone ever stray from the source which is God and His Word? Everything one needs to know is in the Bible. Everything else contrary to His Word is meant to deceive and mislead people often to the destruction of their souls and is from the evil one (who’s only goal is to deceive and send souls to hell).

God makes it very simple to be saved, I’ll never understand why people choose to seek non-truths backed by zero evidence.
 Quoting: Seek^


The churches I attended taught people to connect directly to God.

People did what God taught them to do and they threw away their Bibles because they had God instead.

That is what God actual thinks of the Bible compared to having him as your personal guide and teacher.

All English versions are incorrect. Theologians learn to read the scriptures in the original languages they were written in.

talk to one of them and they will tell you have badly mistranslated the English versions are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80600354

God speaks to and communicates with people through His Word as His Word is alive.

For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Hebrews 4:12



Every time I pick up my Bible and read I learn something new. I’ve read passages 30-40 times before the Holy Spirit revealed an inner truth and meaning to a certain scripture. There are many translations of the Bible and this is by design to deceive by none other than Satan himself. At least 10% of the original biblical texts must be altered and/or omitted in order to publish a new Bible translation. Again, this is by design and meant to deceive.

For example, Jesus gave clear instruction on how to remove demons from people. If you were Satan and the way to remove his presence as well as demons from an individual was exposed and your only goal is the ruination of souls by way of demons and possession, would you not seek to omit said scripture to keep people in slavery and in the dark? Of course you would. Matthew 17:21 is omitted from most every Bible for a reason. This is just one example.

[link to biblehub.com (secure)]


You can trust the KJV and one should read God’s word as much as possible and supplement reading the Bible with prayer and fasting if you’re called to do so.
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Reincarnation is a tricky doctrine. It bears some degree of truth; however, in its present form, I am not ready to defend it. I categorize reincarnation as pseudo-truth, comparable to religious parables.

I think it is human mind or conscious that actually reincarnates into newborn bodies, and can do so many times. While alive, certain memory patterns embed deeply into the conscious. It is possible that they get recalled into the reincarnated life.

The soul is produced in mortal life only, and not everyone accomplishes this feat. That means not every person possesses a soul. Unlike human conscious, the soul is not subject to reincarnation. In fact, the soul serves to free the dead from the law of reincarnation. It houses the conscious, post mortem.

When an individual fails to engender a soul prior to death, their conscious is remanded to the material plane, that being, reincarnates.
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I’ll never understand why people seek alternate resources based in non-truths such as the idea of reincarnation and false assumptions like it other than the fact that God foretold this would happen as people have itching ears so it’s not a surprise.

The KJV Bible is God’s word. God spoke into existence the heavens and the earth and all life. God is limited by nothing and is outside of time, space, and matter. God is omnipotent meaning He’s all-powerful and can do anything and this includes having His Word written through men moved by the Holy Spirit. Reincarnation isn’t real, it’s completely a false idea rooted in nothing.

Why would anyone ever stray from the source which is God and His Word? Everything one needs to know is in the Bible. Everything else contrary to His Word is meant to deceive and mislead people often to the destruction of their souls and is from the evil one (who’s only goal is to deceive and send souls to hell).

God makes it very simple to be saved, I’ll never understand why people choose to seek non-truths backed by zero evidence.
 Quoting: Seek^


The churches I attended taught people to connect directly to God.

People did what God taught them to do and they threw away their Bibles because they had God instead.

That is what God actual thinks of the Bible compared to having him as your personal guide and teacher.

All English versions are incorrect. Theologians learn to read the scriptures in the original languages they were written in.

talk to one of them and they will tell you have badly mistranslated the English versions are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80600354

God speaks to and communicates with people through His Word as His Word is alive.

For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Hebrews 4:12



Every time I pick up my Bible and read I learn something new. I’ve read passages 30-40 times before the Holy Spirit revealed an inner truth and meaning to a certain scripture. There are many translations of the Bible and this is by design to deceive by none other than Satan himself. At least 10% of the original biblical texts must be altered and/or omitted in order to publish a new Bible translation. Again, this is by design and meant to deceive.

For example, Jesus gave clear instruction on how to remove demons from people. If you were Satan and the way to remove his presence as well as demons from an individual was exposed and your only goal is the ruination of souls by way of demons and possession, would you not seek to omit said scripture to keep people in slavery and in the dark? Of course you would. Matthew 17:21 is omitted from most every Bible for a reason. This is just one example.

[link to biblehub.com (secure)]


You can trust the KJV and one should read God’s word as much as possible and supplement reading the Bible with prayer and fasting if you’re called to do so.
 Quoting: Seek^


If you are correct, why doesn't God connect to you directly as he does with other Christians?

This suggests you are doing something wrong.
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I’ll never understand why people seek alternate resources based in non-truths such as the idea of reincarnation and false assumptions like it other than the fact that God foretold this would happen as people have itching ears so it’s not a surprise.

The KJV Bible is God’s word. God spoke into existence the heavens and the earth and all life. God is limited by nothing and is outside of time, space, and matter. God is omnipotent meaning He’s all-powerful and can do anything and this includes having His Word written through men moved by the Holy Spirit. Reincarnation isn’t real, it’s completely a false idea rooted in nothing.

Why would anyone ever stray from the source which is God and His Word? Everything one needs to know is in the Bible. Everything else contrary to His Word is meant to deceive and mislead people often to the destruction of their souls and is from the evil one (who’s only goal is to deceive and send souls to hell).

God makes it very simple to be saved, I’ll never understand why people choose to seek non-truths backed by zero evidence.
 Quoting: Seek^


The churches I attended taught people to connect directly to God.

People did what God taught them to do and they threw away their Bibles because they had God instead.

That is what God actual thinks of the Bible compared to having him as your personal guide and teacher.

All English versions are incorrect. Theologians learn to read the scriptures in the original languages they were written in.

talk to one of them and they will tell you have badly mistranslated the English versions are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80600354

God speaks to and communicates with people through His Word as His Word is alive.

For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
Hebrews 4:12



Every time I pick up my Bible and read I learn something new. I’ve read passages 30-40 times before the Holy Spirit revealed an inner truth and meaning to a certain scripture. There are many translations of the Bible and this is by design to deceive by none other than Satan himself. At least 10% of the original biblical texts must be altered and/or omitted in order to publish a new Bible translation. Again, this is by design and meant to deceive.

For example, Jesus gave clear instruction on how to remove demons from people. If you were Satan and the way to remove his presence as well as demons from an individual was exposed and your only goal is the ruination of souls by way of demons and possession, would you not seek to omit said scripture to keep people in slavery and in the dark? Of course you would. Matthew 17:21 is omitted from most every Bible for a reason. This is just one example.

[link to biblehub.com (secure)]


You can trust the KJV and one should read God’s word as much as possible and supplement reading the Bible with prayer and fasting if you’re called to do so.
 Quoting: Seek^


If you are correct, why doesn't God connect to you directly as he does with other Christians?

This suggests you are doing something wrong.
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Do you heal others?

Millions of Christians do this every week all around the world?

They do it as Jesus taught them to.

You got the Bible read the book of John. It is stated in their clearly enough how to do it.

Millions of other Christians do it, why not you?

Have you experienced your pentacostal baptism yet?

When God gives you the use of the Holy Spirit?


Keep kidding yourself if you want.

You have to connect to God to get into his Kingdom.
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I’ll never understand why people seek alternate resources based in non-truths such as the idea of reincarnation and false assumptions like it other than the fact that God foretold this would happen as people have itching ears so it’s not a surprise.

The KJV Bible is God’s word. God spoke into existence the heavens and the earth and all life. God is limited by nothing and is outside of time, space, and matter. God is omnipotent meaning He’s all-powerful and can do anything and this includes having His Word written through men moved by the Holy Spirit. Reincarnation isn’t real, it’s completely a false idea rooted in nothing.

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Maybe it’s due to dissatisfaction with the biblical idea of sleeping dead in the grave until some future Jesus return and resurrection.
Instead of wasting time sleeping, knowing nothing feeling nothing, why not stay awake and live more lives during that time. We’re talking hundreds and thousands of years of dead sleep and waste of time.
People want more experiences, more life, more learning and progressing, and reincarnation is something they might gravitate to as a better idea than dead sleep.
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I hope I can return. Too many possibilities to be creative in this world.
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I’ll never understand why people seek alternate resources based in non-truths such as the idea of reincarnation and false assumptions like it other than the fact that God foretold this would happen as people have itching ears so it’s not a surprise.

The KJV Bible is God’s word. God spoke into existence the heavens and the earth and all life. God is limited by nothing and is outside of time, space, and matter. God is omnipotent meaning He’s all-powerful and can do anything and this includes having His Word written through men moved by the Holy Spirit. Reincarnation isn’t real, it’s completely a false idea rooted in nothing.

 Quoting: Seek^


Maybe it’s due to dissatisfaction with the biblical idea of sleeping dead in the grave until some future Jesus return and resurrection.
Instead of wasting time sleeping, knowing nothing feeling nothing, why not stay awake and live more lives during that time. We’re talking hundreds and thousands of years of dead sleep and waste of time.
People want more experiences, more life, more learning and progressing, and reincarnation is something they might gravitate to as a better idea than dead sleep.
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I’ll never understand why people seek alternate resources based in non-truths such as the idea of reincarnation and false assumptions like it other than the fact that God foretold this would happen as people have itching ears so it’s not a surprise.

The KJV Bible is God’s word. God spoke into existence the heavens and the earth and all life. God is limited by nothing and is outside of time, space, and matter. God is omnipotent meaning He’s all-powerful and can do anything and this includes having His Word written through men moved by the Holy Spirit. Reincarnation isn’t real, it’s completely a false idea rooted in nothing.

 Quoting: Seek^


Maybe it’s due to dissatisfaction with the biblical idea of sleeping dead in the grave until some future Jesus return and resurrection.
Instead of wasting time sleeping, knowing nothing feeling nothing, why not stay awake and live more lives during that time. We’re talking hundreds and thousands of years of dead sleep and waste of time.
People want more experiences, more life, more learning and progressing, and reincarnation is something they might gravitate to as a better idea than dead sleep.
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Great point!!
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Corrected that for you





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