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BREAKING: China responds to US claims that it is flying a spy balloon over Montana.

 
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China claims it's a weather balloon.

It has steering capabilities.

US says it's a spy balloon and has a payload.

It's been over the US for days unhindered.

Pentagon says it has spent days over 'sensitive sites'.

And they're letting it continue across the US UNIMPEDED.

So, either they know exactly what's on it & helped it get here, in which case that makes them traitors up to no good

or

this admin is the biggest gang of cowards on the planet.

Either way, the American people are fucked.

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All americans gonna starve to death this uear
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We need to arm Taiwan to the teeth as payback.
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147 threads today so far with balloon in the title.
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You so good wiff maffs
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you got a "gift"....

to erase by a thought...
from your emotions...



to long you have been dragged through a sewer.......
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A necessary qual for the job

cool2
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something like this....

jump to 1:38...



there is a reason why that targeted "scientists" and military- all branches and all at once...

that was a warning, DO NOT TOUCH!
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Painting targets it’s obvious
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yes, yes...
now you shall see...
her emotions, (when she reads something she doe not like)
go 0.1 degree above zen....
UF!

SHITSTORM would be like christmass...

any attempt to use anything of a gifts given to her...
even worse....

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All americans gonna starve to death this uear
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Matthew 10:28


And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
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cousin just got her self a presents...
proper "painless"....
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Re: BREAKING: China responds to US claims that it is flying a spy balloon over Montana.
China claims it's a weather balloon.

It has steering capabilities.

US says it's a spy balloon and has a payload.

It's been over the US for days unhindered.

Pentagon says it has spent days over 'sensitive sites'.

And they're letting it continue across the US UNIMPEDED.

So, either they know exactly what's on it & helped it get here, in which case that makes them traitors up to no good

or

this admin is the biggest gang of cowards on the planet.

Either way, the American people are fucked.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Yup.

I said earlier after the Pentagon conference that my only reasonable conclusion was that the Pentagon is working with or taking orders from the Chinese Communist Party.
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China claims it's a weather balloon.

It has steering capabilities.

US says it's a spy balloon and has a payload.

It's been over the US for days unhindered.

Pentagon says it has spent days over 'sensitive sites'.

And they're letting it continue across the US UNIMPEDED.

So, either they know exactly what's on it & helped it get here, in which case that makes them traitors up to no good

or

this admin is the biggest gang of cowards on the planet.

Either way, the American people are fucked.
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Yup.

I said earlier after the Pentagon conference that my only reasonable conclusion was that the Pentagon is working with or taking orders from the Chinese Communist Party.
 Quoting: BFD


Yep. The evidence just keeps piling up and the maddening part is that they don't care.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

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Maybe the moon had a baby?

lmao
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I think the 'kill shot' scenario at least has to be entertained.

Major Ed Dames and his team of remote viewers gave the sequence:

- Space based disaster/downing of some sort of space vehicle

- Nuclear incident on the Korean peninsula

- Solar doom

- Beyond Thunderdome ensues


Given his nailing of the Covid situation basically on the damn head, 15-years before the fact... I think dude has some street cred. Now, factor in the current solar cycle situation and the pucker factor should be reaching snare-drum levels.

Couldn't find a decent Art Bell clip with kill-shot break down?


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You are an idiot.
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It's coming our way.
Fuck the US Military, we're going to
shoot it down ourselves,
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How the fuck do you shoot something that's at a higher altitude than air traffic?
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The F22 can climb to. 65,000 feet.
Any sarcasm in this post is purely intentional.
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Re: BREAKING: China responds to US claims that it is flying a spy balloon over Montana.
China claims it's a weather balloon.

It has steering capabilities.

US says it's a spy balloon and has a payload.

It's been over the US for days unhindered.

Pentagon says it has spent days over 'sensitive sites'.

And they're letting it continue across the US UNIMPEDED.

So, either they know exactly what's on it & helped it get here, in which case that makes them traitors up to no good

or

this admin is the biggest gang of cowards on the planet.

Either way, the American people are fucked.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Yup.

I said earlier after the Pentagon conference that my only reasonable conclusion was that the Pentagon is working with or taking orders from the Chinese Communist Party.
 Quoting: BFD


Yep. The evidence just keeps piling up and the maddening part is that they don't care.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Take a good look at that "payload" in the pics we've seen. Does it LOOK like it could "steer" that thing, let alone contain something sinister? Without ducted fans [and where would the power source for those be? Are those big panels solar cells?], the best you can do to steer a balloon would be with remote-controlled rudders to influence the wind and they'd have to be on at least three sides of that balloon to be effective... otherwise it's at the mercy of the wind currents themselves. That "payload" actually looks like a directional antennae that may provide a data uplink to an orbiting satellite but right now all we have is the government's -and MSM- claims this is spy bird... and neither one of those is worth much more than a wet roll of toilet paper.

Next, take a look at genuine surveillance arrays on other balloons; again they look nothing like what is on this one.

I'm not buying the DOD official story for one single second, but it does appear to me that maybe -just maybe- the Chinese are telling the truth for once. Your first clue should've been the word "spy" itself that's been endlessly repeated in every single media blurb about this. And if that didn't set off warning bells that this is a false narrative then nothing can.

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China claims it's a weather balloon.

It has steering capabilities.

US says it's a spy balloon and has a payload.

It's been over the US for days unhindered.

Pentagon says it has spent days over 'sensitive sites'.

And they're letting it continue across the US UNIMPEDED.

So, either they know exactly what's on it & helped it get here, in which case that makes them traitors up to no good

or

this admin is the biggest gang of cowards on the planet.

Either way, the American people are fucked.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Yup.

I said earlier after the Pentagon conference that my only reasonable conclusion was that the Pentagon is working with or taking orders from the Chinese Communist Party.
 Quoting: BFD


Yep. The evidence just keeps piling up and the maddening part is that they don't care.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Take a good look at that "payload" in the pics we've seen. Does it LOOK like it could steer that thing, let alone contain something sinister? Without ducted fans [and where would the power source for those be?], the best you can do to steer a balloon would be with remote-controlled rudders to influence the wind and they'd have to be on at least three sides of that balloon to be effective... otherwise it's at the mercy of the wind currents themselves. That "payload" actually looks like a directional antennae that may provide a data uplink to an orbiting satellite but right now all we have is the government's -and MSM- claims this is spy bird... and neither one of those is worth much more than a wet roll of toilet paper.

Next, take a look at genuine surveillance arrays on other balloons; again they look nothing like what is on this one.

I'm not buying the DOD official story for one single second, but it does appear to me that maybe -just maybe- the Chinese are telling the truth for once.
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


I might believe that except for one thing: Canada said there is one identical to it over their territory. Did their weather balloon have a balloon baby when it stopped over Montana for hours?
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Yup.

I said earlier after the Pentagon conference that my only reasonable conclusion was that the Pentagon is working with or taking orders from the Chinese Communist Party.
 Quoting: BFD


Yep. The evidence just keeps piling up and the maddening part is that they don't care.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Take a good look at that "payload" in the pics we've seen. Does it LOOK like it could steer that thing, let alone contain something sinister? Without ducted fans [and where would the power source for those be?], the best you can do to steer a balloon would be with remote-controlled rudders to influence the wind and they'd have to be on at least three sides of that balloon to be effective... otherwise it's at the mercy of the wind currents themselves. That "payload" actually looks like a directional antennae that may provide a data uplink to an orbiting satellite but right now all we have is the government's -and MSM- claims this is spy bird... and neither one of those is worth much more than a wet roll of toilet paper.

Next, take a look at genuine surveillance arrays on other balloons; again they look nothing like what is on this one.

I'm not buying the DOD official story for one single second, but it does appear to me that maybe -just maybe- the Chinese are telling the truth for once.
 Quoting: GSB/LTD


I might believe that except for one thing: Canada said there is one identical to it over their territory. Did their weather balloon have a balloon baby when it stopped over Montana for hours?
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


That comes right back to my original premise that these are merely privately-owned balloons being used to survey the massive acreage Chinese corporations have bought up in both Montana and Canada. To protect those powerful interests it even makes sense that the Chinese government would claim they're gathering weather data instead of doing some detailed off-the-satellite-grid land mapping. Because you've gotta' expect that every single piece of data that flows in/out of those orbiting satellites is VERY closely monitored by the feds which makes using a low-tech balloon even more feasible. And that's why I doubt that antennae array even has traceable uplink -or steering- capabilities.

Further, with all the miniaturized drones available that could gather some SERIOUS surveillance, WHY would the Chinese use something that can be spotted with a decent pair of binoculars?

NOPE: from the media spin alone this whole story stinks like last week's fish! But with them hammering "spy..spy...spy" -along with this story following on the heels of that General's "warning" that we'd be going to war with China by 2025- everybody's swallowing it hook, line and sinker.

Once again, WE'RE BEING HAD, PEOPLE!

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It's obvious they are selling the SPY story. R-E-L-A-X it's only a spy satellite. This is a delivery system or drone carrier.They don't need this to "spy". They have boots on the ground because there isn't a city or town that doesn't have at least one Chinese restaurant . thinkab0utit7
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a fucking spy balloon.

the Chinese are indeed to be feared.

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It's a sattalite, space is fake
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Someone on another site made a good point…They may be using the balloon to launch an EMP or to spread another disease over America. Why has no one protected America’s airspace yet but will chase down UFOs? Our leadership sold us out to the NWO global leadership coming down the pike.
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Someone on another site made a good point…They may be using the balloon to launch an EMP or to spread another disease over America. Why has no one protected America’s airspace yet but will chase down UFOs? Our leadership sold us out to the NWO global leadership coming down the pike.
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First of all, EMP's DON'T WORK THAT WAY. To take down a grid, it'd have to be a coordinated attack from several different high-altitude nuclear sources. Anything else would result in a small regional zone that would only carry psychological impact with little lasting damage... and even the Chinese aren't stupid enough to risk a full-blown war over such a small initial attack yield.

So: for an EMP to work as a prelude to war, it'd have to be MUCH bigger than a single balloon -or two- could possibly accomplish. You're over-estimating how much payload a balloon such as this can carry since it couldn't even lift a nuclear device big enough to pull off an EMP as you suggest. Did you know that the MAXIMUM payload of a common weather balloon is only 12 pounds? In contrast even a large suitcase nuclear device weighs in at 80-100 pounds and it would be too small to do any genuine harm other than in a limited blast zone, assuming it detonated near ground level.

And secondly, a bio-attack from a balloon has the same low levels of success. The capricious jet stream itself would dissipate even the hardiest lethal bio-strain long before it reached the surface to do any damage... unless a Mason jar of the stuff magically flaoted down and crashed on impact - and even then, atmospheric conditions would pretty much render it useless since biological agents are actually pretty fragile unless a lot of supportive criteria is met, with temperature and humidity gradients chief among them... and one need only take a good look at how cold the national weather's been to know that can be ruled out.

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Ladies and Gents I present to you your fake ISS. High altitude Balloon losing allude eh? Look at the "payload" familiar? Busted
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Doom Off. It's a weather balloon being used for meteorological research that blew off course.


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Doom Off. It's a weather balloon that blew off course.

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Fucking ridiculous! You Americans are being clowned! Surveylance ... Ahah china has satelites you fucking morons.
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Doom Off. It's a weather balloon that blew off course.

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this is a bold move. Something is up.
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It's an attack!!!

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