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The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest

 
Uncle Gintel

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The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
As most of you know, they are saying that they "don't want to hurt people on the ground."


Here is the problem.... high altitude ballons unpredictability blow up all the time due to the extreme conditions at 120,000ft.


So it makes far more sense to bring it down over a rural area than risk having it pop on its own over a city.
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
Its also about to go over the rural midwest and then rural Missouri today and tomorrow. They can down it with a ground based laser as it passes over a large agriculture area,state park, or rural forrest.



We have no idea what its made of or if it is even sturdy enough to not randomly blow up. Worse, it will be passing over densely populated regions of the eastern southern seaboard later this week and then it will be too late to down it safely and you have to hope it wont pop.
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
Finally, no intelligence agency in their right mind would not want to get their hands on it to study it.


What sensors does it have? Who made the chips and sensors on board? What is the resolution of the equipment on board? Is the component quality military grade? Etc etc
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
Yeah I am not trolling on this and know a decent amount about this stuff.



You down it over a rural area rather than risk it popping over a populated area.



Its projected path takes near Atlanta or over the Carolinas.
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so in that case, we aren't going to shoot down missiles or planes and stuff that come over our airspace due to "debris fields". going by THAT logic. right?
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
As most of you know, they are saying that they "don't want to hurt people on the ground."


Here is the problem.... high altitude ballons unpredictability blow up all the time due to the extreme conditions at 120,000ft.


So it makes far more sense to bring it down over a rural area than risk having it pop on its own over a city.
 Quoting: Uncle Gintel


Isn't 120,000 feet the sweet spot for an EMP device?

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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
As most of you know, they are saying that they "don't want to hurt people on the ground."

 Quoting: Uncle Gintel


they don't give a crap about the peasants as
long is there is enough of them to fight their wars...
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
Your first mistake is to assume the US military will give you classified information about an unknown threat.


That offical line was fed to the media so Americans accept a foreign craft in their airspace.

But be sure they will never tell you the whole story about what is happening. It's top secret information
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
Well, it's carrying a 1 ton payload. Now there are 2 balloons. 2 atmosphere burst nukes weighing a ton would wreak havoc on our electric grid. Needs to be 100 miles east though.
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Well, it's carrying a 1 ton payload. Now there are 2 balloons. 2 atmosphere burst nukes weighing a ton would wreak havoc on our electric grid. Needs to be 100 miles east though.
 Quoting: IAMABADMUTHAFUKKR


1,000 miles East not 100
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
Of course it's dishonest.

We all know the real reason:

Joe Biden is China's bitch.

They paid 95 million dollars to his fake think tank money laundering operation called the Biden Center. The Sect. of State...Blinken ran that operation.

These two traitorous thieving lying scumbags should be hung by the neck on that balloon and let the pieces of shit float away to wherever scumbag lying traitors go.
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
Its at 80,000 to 120,000ft so the easiest option is a ground based laser. Its horizontal speed will not be high and it would take about 6 minutes to fall to earth.



So they could drop it away from people no problem.



But that window is closing. It will be over populated areas in a day or so.
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Maybe they think it's a gender reveal balloon and don't want to ruin the surprise . Lol fucking clowns
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
Got any links on the flight path and current location?
You know..you never know..you know?
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
Its at 80,000 to 120,000ft so the easiest option is a ground based laser. Its horizontal speed will not be high and it would take about 6 minutes to fall to earth.



So they could drop it away from people no problem.



But that window is closing. It will be over populated areas in a day or so.
 Quoting: Uncle Gintel


i thought it was at 62,000ft???
not splitting hairs, but there is a huge difference, especially considering it is a real threat
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Maybe they think it's a gender reveal balloon and don't want to ruin the surprise . Lol fucking clowns
 Quoting: Stone crusher


rofl
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
As most of you know, they are saying that they "don't want to hurt people on the ground."


Here is the problem.... high altitude ballons unpredictability blow up all the time due to the extreme conditions at 120,000ft.


So it makes far more sense to bring it down over a rural area than risk having it pop on its own over a city.
 Quoting: Uncle Gintel


It was over Montana and the Dakotas…
Lowest pop density in America, no better place to bring it down, especially in winter.
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
Finally, no intelligence agency in their right mind would not want to get their hands on it to study it.


What sensors does it have? Who made the chips and sensors on board? What is the resolution of the equipment on board? Is the component quality military grade? Etc etc
 Quoting: Uncle Gintel


You pretty much answred it here shooting it down could destroy the evidence they where collecting
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
Its American...Duh!
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
kinda surprised a farmer in montana didnt blow it out of the sky lol.

or some random toober just flying a drone up to it.
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
EVERYTHING the government does or says is VERY DISHONEST. EVERYTHING!

Just remember that, and KNOW it, always.
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
It probably belongs to the US military and they are testing/using something attached to the balloon, or it does belong to China or a foreign power and they aren't sure if it could be a weapon filled with say for example anthrax, phentinal powder, or some bio/chemical weapon. The goal of the enemy would be for the advisary to shoot it therefore spreading the actual weapon.
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
"If" it really is Chinese then the chips and sensor tech it has on it is probably stolen from the USA anyways.
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
kinda surprised a farmer in montana didnt blow it out of the sky lol.

or some random toober just flying a drone up to it.
 Quoting: ScreamingEagle


Bro it's above 60k ft.
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
More lies from Biden Administration
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
I would bet everything I own that LESS THAN 1% of what's in the mainstream news is straight up the truth.

Everything they tell us is lies.
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
Yeah I am not trolling on this and know a decent amount about this stuff.



You down it over a rural area rather than risk it popping over a populated area.



Its projected path takes near Atlanta or over the Carolinas.
 Quoting: Uncle Gintel


Why bring it down over Missouri? They fucked around for two or three days while it was over a huge area with low to no population density.

If they bring it down now, it's because they WANT to cause damage.
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
it cant is the real reason
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Re: The govts Reasoning for Not Shooting down the Ballon is Very Dishonest
Its also about to go over the rural midwest and then rural Missouri today and tomorrow. They can down it with a ground based laser as it passes over a large agriculture area,state park, or rural forrest.



We have no idea what its made of or if it is even sturdy enough to not randomly blow up. Worse, it will be passing over densely populated regions of the eastern southern seaboard later this week and then it will be too late to down it safely and you have to hope it wont pop.
 Quoting: Uncle Gintel

Delusional fantasies of a secret laser with the range needed to pop the baloon. Hollywood has really done a number on the 40+ and 20- demographic





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