Clear Shot Of Chinese Airship, weird payload | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85202792 United States 02/04/2023 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it is just a stray weather balloon. I don’t see anything resembling transmitting equipment, to send data back to earth. Surely that would be there if it was a spy loon. I'm adding your username to the "shill list" Well I suppose that is easier than admitting I am right. I can transmit data around the world using a device that is less than 3x5 inches and half an inch thick that I call my phone. But you’re right no way the chinese could do it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73261348 United States 02/04/2023 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it is just a stray weather balloon. I don’t see anything resembling transmitting equipment, to send data back to earth. Surely that would be there if it was a spy loon. Ok Einstein so how would the weather balloon transmit its information back down to earth? Do you even know what transmission equipment looks like? Have you seen a two way radio? It would likely not transmit its data to a ground station, it would transmit it to a satellite |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73261348 United States 02/04/2023 10:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Katipo I think it is just a stray weather balloon. I don’t see anything resembling transmitting equipment, to send data back to earth. Surely that would be there if it was a spy loon. I'm adding your username to the "shill list" Well I suppose that is easier than admitting I am right. I can transmit data around the world using a device that is less than 3x5 inches and half an inch thick that I call my phone. But you’re right no way the chinese could do it You make a good point. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 83679816 United States 02/04/2023 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know if i worked at that base,i would be putting in my retirement papers or quitting if i could to get the hell out of there now....since i now know i have been doxxed by china... Quoting: ChugALugging Knowing my family is clear danger now... These comments are so stupid. There are much easier ways to see who works on a base. It’s clear that you have no clue on any functions of the military. |
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Dodger007
User ID: 28000624 United States 02/04/2023 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is not nearly the clearest shot we have of it. And it is a distraction from the bombing of Iran. A weather balloon, highly visible The "chosen" ALWAYS do this shit when they attack. Weather balloons are not likely guided to track over ICBM and strategic bomber bases And neither did this one. It hasn't been "guided" anywhere, really. It is drifting on the prevailing westerlies along a predicted path. I see you are behind on the news. You can count on America to do the right thing after exhausting every other alternative." Winston Churchill |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84955146 United States 02/04/2023 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it is just a stray weather balloon. I don’t see anything resembling transmitting equipment, to send data back to earth. Surely that would be there if it was a spy loon. Obvioualy you don't know squat about antennas. Length of that array makes for a perfect dipole capable of extremely long range. That's the kinda dipole you could use to scoop up tacamo and other submarine comms channels yes. This is like the very definition of an extreme natsec threat. The fact that there's other ones at the locations we're hearing about also means that they've gotten a big ass triangle of said dipoles too... Given enough computer power that triangle of dipoles could lay basically everything we're doing bare. Potentially even stuff pretty deep underground or underwater. There's a thread on another conspiracy site about multi antenna "virtual arrays" that a lot of people here would be well served to read that I can't link sadly. And yeah I'm posting this anon and not saying everything I could and probably should say because I don't necessarily trust my own government not to be mad for me pointing this stuff out. (No I'm not an idiot I know I can easily be found even posting anon but it does give me some separation) Tldr We should all be extremely angry and suspicious of our government right now for essentially failing to do their most basic and fundamental job here straight up on purpose! I and others have suspected for 2 years now that the American people are being willingly set up by our people in power to not only "lose ww3" but also "face the consequences a defeated power faces in the aftermath of a lost war" Maybe for many of you the creeping loss of freedom and prosperity isn't enough to consider action, but I would appeal to anyone reading this to reconsider in light of "our government" not only failing but OUTRIGHT ENABLING the destruction of the USA through things like this. The people at the top will never pay the consequences for the upcoming lost war, they have bought themselves a golden ticket by selling the rest of us out. Let that sink in people |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85200068 02/04/2023 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | been trying very hard to ignore this and the rest of the circus the world has become in the last few years. but this one bugs me. this is right up there with 911 and the jab on my somethings fucky meter. govt won't shoot it down, it can be steered, they're staying tight lipped with what they know and basically telling everyone if you want to know, look up and see for yourself. then a comment on twitter got my attention. said those are not solar panels, but ground penetrating radar array. so... if true, is china trying to oust our govt secrets, or is our govt looking for our bunkers via chinese spy baloons? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85061760 que the shills to tell me i'm a fuckin moran. Last night they had a local news story like "Hey the Chinese balloon is gonna be overhead tonight, see when and where!" Like this is some circus sideshow. After that I find it hard to take this seriously |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85134434 United States 02/04/2023 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a way to deliver or drop weapons ...bio weapons. It could also easily deliver an EMP nuke. This is a delivery system .This is NOT a "SPY" balloon. The balloon is a dry run . All data sent back to mother China concerns the detection of the DEATH BALLOON. There undoubtedly have been more of these but it took Joe Six Pack to blow the whistle. |
JustmeTX
User ID: 84369183 United States 02/04/2023 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That EMP antenna required a HUGE bank of electrolytic capacitors that they charged from the power grid to high voltage until they were ready to do a test shot. Quoting: JustmeTX It is a huge balloon. Could they use a compact nuclear battery liek used on some space projects/satellites sent to the outer solar system or whatever used them. I mean the power source is one thing... the fact is that antenna looks just like something that could be suspended from one of these balloons. Yes, the US has the Champ missile, which is a compact version . I don't think it works from 60,000 feet though. It flies over a building at low altitude and knocks out the electronics Last Edited by JustmeTX on 02/04/2023 11:01 AM Justme |
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The Årtist
User ID: 83242586 United States 02/04/2023 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's the deal about this balloon... It's almost assuredly not an issue. There's probably nothing on it but listening and environmental equipment. That's not the issue. The issue is China now knows they can get balloons halfway across the country with impunity. Could China send EMP balloons all across the US? Looks like they've proven they can and the US has proven we'll let it happen. Basically if the Chinese wanted to shut us down, they can... and we'd let it happen through our indecisiveness and lack of will. RAGE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80557325 United States 02/04/2023 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Watching people on the ground at the air base for days in 8k res they will know the patterns we use... Quoting: ChugALugging inch by inch detail... Oh btw they will also know who is there by name and number and every detail of their lives by now... Could easily go and send in a black op from china to go to these peoples homes and make them do things now,these people are now been doxxed out ... They are totally useless to the usa now since i bet the china man knows about these people on the base then most of the people on the base...Scary days indeed! Nah, they already had that capability via space based satellites so didn't need a balloon for that. This is being carefully narrated by the mockingbird media as something it is NOT. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84882506 United States 02/04/2023 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Two rails pointing to an impact point for the plutonium pieces to slam into each other. This weird structure looks like it could be an emp device. The high altitude is optimal for the EMP effect. Once it reaches its target it can detonate if the Chinese still have control over it.watch the video on operation hard tack from the 1950s. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84803112 -- Quit spreading false and stupid information. EMP needs minimum 250km altitude to be effective, around ten times higher than it is now. -- |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82510173 United States 02/04/2023 11:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To go from something that looks like this... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82510173 [link to twitter.com (secure)] To something that looks like this... [link to twitter.com (secure)] It seems like it has already gotten damaged. Did someone render it inoperable already? Maybe at least knocked out communication. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80236945 United States 02/04/2023 11:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's the count on the balloons? I heard there were some in phillipines and latin america at one point. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85195867 Yeah there’s at least two, one over Latin America. The weather balloon excuse is BS, yet people in here keep dismissing this. It could be anything but nothing good. Since they already have satellites that can see everything they’d possibly want to see from above, it begs the question, what is this? Better hope it’s not slow-releasing some pathogen. |
your huckleberry nli User ID: 80557325 United States 02/04/2023 11:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's the deal about this balloon... Quoting: The Årtist It's almost assuredly not an issue. There's probably nothing on it but listening and environmental equipment. That's not the issue. The issue is China now knows they can get balloons halfway across the country with impunity. Could China send EMP balloons all across the US? Looks like they've proven they can and the US has proven we'll let it happen. Basically if the Chinese wanted to shut us down, they can... and we'd let it happen through our indecisiveness and lack of will. Do you know for sure that the Balloon is Chinese? After all your experience, doesn't your spidey sense have anything to share about believing what US.Gov through their mockingbirds media is saying about who owns the balloon? |
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The Årtist
User ID: 83242586 United States 02/04/2023 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's the deal about this balloon... Quoting: The Årtist It's almost assuredly not an issue. There's probably nothing on it but listening and environmental equipment. That's not the issue. The issue is China now knows they can get balloons halfway across the country with impunity. Could China send EMP balloons all across the US? Looks like they've proven they can and the US has proven we'll let it happen. Basically if the Chinese wanted to shut us down, they can... and we'd let it happen through our indecisiveness and lack of will. Do you know for sure that the Balloon is Chinese? After all your experience, doesn't your spidey sense have anything to share about believing what US.Gov through their mockingbirds media is saying about who owns the balloon? That's a fair point. I could easily see this being our balloon to blame on China to create another checkbox we can tick to show why China is the bad guy. Absolutely. RAGE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76658155 Romania 02/04/2023 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it is just a stray weather balloon. I don’t see anything resembling transmitting equipment, to send data back to earth. Surely that would be there if it was a spy loon. The thing in the middle is a transceiver similar to those from satellites. It transmits/receives data in real time. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85194006 United States 02/04/2023 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Official reports are that it was being tracked during its flight duration and the reason for not shooting it down was due to the US Military's "assessment" through "observation". labeling it a "surveillance payload". If the scenario here isn't an agreed surveillance operation between the US Military, and the CCP to gain some sort of trust in the back channels, and we spend trillions on trillions for this very deterrence, our government and military have failed us yet again, just as 9/11. My personal assessment is a US military operation. Likely is surveillance equipment (per pentagon) for rogue WMDs. Better readings gathered from a stationary craft than that of a jetliner. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79108163 Italy 02/04/2023 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's the deal about this balloon... Quoting: The Årtist It's almost assuredly not an issue. There's probably nothing on it but listening and environmental equipment. That's not the issue. The issue is China now knows they can get balloons halfway across the country with impunity. Could China send EMP balloons all across the US? Looks like they've proven they can and the US has proven we'll let it happen. Basically if the Chinese wanted to shut us down, they can... and we'd let it happen through our indecisiveness and lack of will. I disagree. If anything, this will compel the United States to pour resources into developing a counter response to a future similar balloon scenario. It also puts this type of attack scenario on the US radar so to speak in order to monitor future occurrences. China isn’t that stupid. Only way this is any sort of trial run is if there’s an imminent threat from China within a very short period of time where US doesn’t have enough time to counter. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80757165 United States 02/04/2023 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So let me get this straight a balloon, with an undercarriage the size of 3 buses (Pentagon calls it a payload?) floats over the pacific ocean, through Alaska into Canada then into Montana. With no mention of it until over populated areas in which persons can observe and acknowledge. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85194006 Official reports are that it was being tracked during its flight duration and the reason for not shooting it down was due to the US Military's "assessment" through "observation". labeling it a "surveillance payload". If the scenario here isn't an agreed surveillance operation between the US Military, and the CCP to gain some sort of trust in the back channels, and we spend trillions on trillions for this very deterrence, our government and military have failed us yet again, just as 9/11. My personal assessment is a US military operation. Likely is surveillance equipment (per pentagon) for rogue WMDs. Better readings gathered from a stationary craft than that of a jetliner. What's been happening to Biden lately? Raids of his homes to find classified documents. Why would the military deliberately set Biden up for this embarrassment? They're trying to get rid of him. Nothing seems to be happening concerning Harris, so it seems she will be our next President before the next election. |
Where Eagles Dare
Metal-American User ID: 73836248 United States 02/04/2023 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Katipo I think it is just a stray weather balloon. I don’t see anything resembling transmitting equipment, to send data back to earth. Surely that would be there if it was a spy loon. I'm adding your username to the "shill list" Well I suppose that is easier than admitting I am right. I can transmit data around the world using a device that is less than 3x5 inches and half an inch thick that I call my phone. But you’re right no way the chinese could do it You should be more concerned with all the Chinese spyware on your phone then about some stupid balloon. Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint. “They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.” - U.S. Army Paratrooper at Bastogne |
The Årtist
User ID: 83242586 United States 02/04/2023 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This has me thinking about that foreign intelligence expert that was on Rogen. I cannot remember his name... but when he talked about China, it was not good for them. He gave them 10 years... and he knew his shit. Basically China's one child policy all those years has created a situation. An existential situation for them. That policy was prior to their shift to a Communist Capitalist economic system. That system allowed them this weird time period to have all the benefits of quasi competitive competition in business yet maintain all the top down control (and corruption) of State Communism. As a result their economy boomed. They expanded into every market, exported their system to other countries, became the global manufacturer for everything and allowed them to steal all that tech and intellectual property and manufacturing techniques. It's allowed them to expand into Africa and strip those countries of resources. But because of the one child policy they have a population crisis. Their life expectancy has skyrocketed, and a huge amount of their population is retirement age. There's simply not enough young working people to support the system anymore. So in an absolutely perfect situation, China stagnates and slightly declines a bit. But basically all of his reasoning shows a collapse of their society within 10 years. This makes them incredibly dangerous. The number one way to avoid a massive popular rebellion is to be involved in a war or something similar to evoke nationalist emotions and to rally the population to support the government. So in his estimation, China has two options, 1. Collapse. 2. Start a war RAGE |