Breaking – Massive Train Derailment in East Palestine Ohio, Shelter in Place Issued

My money is on tRumps terrorist MAGA'ts causing this derailment.

Pipelines put more money into fewer hands, and often have to traverse sensitive areas.

tRump MAGA'ts, confidence is high.

This has nothing to do with pipelines, politics, Trump or OBiden. Take it elsewhere.

Thanks for all the updates everyone. I don't live close to the site, but the town we just moved to has an enormous railyard and several large switches. Huron County.

We didn't think much about the trains when we moved here, other than the noise. I've since started working out a plan if/when something like this happens here.

“Controlled release” now scheduled for 3:30PM

Same…I’m not there, but I have plenty of families and friends who are, so I’m keeping a very close eye on this. At the same time, I’m about a mile from a busy rail line and working out my own ‘just in case’ plan for the family.

Your county btw just had derailment in January knocked out power forgot about that one too! Greenwich I think was the town 😳 I live by a busy track also and have been plenty nervous.

We're not even that far away from the lines. To be honest, when we looked at the house there really wasn't any movement to speak of. I thought most of the lines weren't being used, like so many in Ohio. Wrong! You should hear it around here at night. I'm sure we don't have near the traffic that they had even 20 years ago, but there's an awful lot that goes through here.

Hope your family and friends stay safe through this and get to go home again safely.

Forgot about that one. We didn't lose power, but part of the town did. That was a bit up the road from me.

My entire family has finally bugged out of EP. Thanks for all the posts and updates. I hope the teams know what they are doing with this controlled burn. So far, the briefings, alerts, messaging, information delivery, and response of state agencies has been less than stellar.

They think the chemicals are better off be breathed by millions of people after being burned than to make a small area badly contaminated.
THAT is why "they" don't put it out.

chemtrail materials?...

good...

and, very bad for nature...

Last Edited by PsihoLog on 02/06/2023 03:28 PM

I agree. It is a shit sandwich no matter how you look at it.

Apparently they planned a "controlled release" of built up pressure in one of the tankers today around 3:30 pm.

Not sure if its already done or not...

Shaped charges, pressurized flammable gas and flares...

What could go wrong?

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Apparently emergency service personnel are going door to door in Darlington, PA forcing evacuations. This is just outside of the original 1 mile radius evacuation zone. It appears they’ve amended that based on wind direction, so it’s no longer a circle. Distances are varying between 1 and 2 miles from the crash…so far.

Getting dark out there but this is a live view of the toxic mess:

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“Controlled release” pushed to 4PM, but it looks like they missed that deadline, too.

Still visible fires still burning and the whole area is covered in a haze of toxic smoke.

Actually it does.

The train is mostly oil tankers if the initial report is correct (it said 100 oil tank cars), and it is the oil that has been burning so far.
The oil has caused the fire. Oil that should have been in a fucking pipeline.

Now they also mentioned chlorine tankers. If one of those blows up from overheating, from the fire, you are going to (potentially) have about 10 miles of dead people downwind. Assuming 1-80 ton Liquid chlorine tank car busts open.

Now they are working to prevent vinyl chloride tanker(s) from exploding. The main hazard being that the stuff will blow up like a bomb if heated and ignited. So they plan to burn it off gradually, in a controlled manner. Infinitely preferable to a giant bomb going off. Again, without the fire caused by the oil, none of this would have been a concern or a problem.

Sounds like they are doing the right things to minimize risks to the community. And taking risks to the response crew that would not have been necessary if the train full of oil had not crashed and burned.

The burning vinyl chloride will make some Unquantified amount of Phosgene gas used in WWI as a chemical weapon (My great uncle got hit with that stuff. Not recommended). Anyway, if you are miles away and they are going slow, probably will be fine. The first responders on the scene better be wearing SCBA gear and chem-suits to protect themselves from the phosgene gas it will produce.



But this IS a pipeline issue. And unfortunately, one that has been politicized.

Very sorry your train is on fire and people are having to deal with this.

Last Edited by JustmeTX on 02/06/2023 04:33 PM

Vinyl Chloride becomes PHOSGENE when burnt.

It was the most widely used poison gas in WW1, and responsible for 80+% of all gas deaths.

If they "Control it", the affected areas will be much smaller.

This is where the ‘fog’ of initial reporting threw the narrative off. There was never any clear indication of what the train was hauling. Turns out, none of it was oil. Also, no chlorine. It’s the vinyl chloride they’re primarily concerned with. What did happen was that the derailing train cars hit standing fuel tanks, causing the initial explosion and fire.

Last Edited by Larphillips on 02/06/2023 04:31 PM

If memory serves me correct there was a derailment and fire in Northern Wisconsin a couple decades ago. To this day nearby property owners are told it is unsafe to grow a veggie garden in their soil unless thy build raised beds filed with uncontaminated soil.

"Investigators and specialists are still identifying other chemicals in the cars, using drones and other technology in the process."


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As I said initially, they should know what that train is hauling immediately with a mouse click.

They are still trying to figure out what they were hauling!

Flying drones over the train to try and read placards. Unbelievable.

Sounds like they backed off and are letting the safety valves blow.

Last Edited by JustmeTX on 02/06/2023 04:43 PM

SO you say that there was no oil and no Chlorine tankers.

Yet I look up an article in 5 seconds that says they still have not identified what is in all of the tankers.

And SOMETHING has been burning for 2 days now? With enough heat that it is blowing the safety valves on the chemical tank cars? Pretty foolish for someone to leave an above ground fuel tank next to a railroad. As in illegal as shit. As in no way in hell is that the case.
Sorry, but I don't believe you have a handle on this.

And you have first hand info better than the news articles?
Perhaps you do. I have no way of knowing. I am just an old CHE living in Houston.

Last Edited by JustmeTX on 02/06/2023 04:49 PM

Sadly, there was a police officer killed in the line of duty and another in the hospital in the Pittsburgh region (McKeesport, PA).

News of the toxic air isn’t even being factored in. 1-2 mile radius. Try 100 miles. It doesn’t seem safe to be outside.

Where are all the emergency text alerts. Mask ordinances.