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Breaking – Massive Train Derailment in East Palestine Ohio, Shelter in Place Issued

 
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What incompetency!

This was posted 47 minutes ago. They STILL don't know what the train was carrying! Unfreaking believable!

They are supposed to know what is on those trains!

Chemtrec or whoever is supposed to manage things and know everything.

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I am sure the Chief was informed early on as to what the various payloads were being carried on that train.

The delay is likely due to waiting for a manifest that showed exactly what type of payload was in each specific car, but more so the need to then identify the cars that were burning which were now scattered and burning so hot as to make it difficult to get close enough to read the car id through the burning smoke.

The reporter said there was a "chemical" smell, which indicates that at least one burning car was filled with other than some crude petroleum product.
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Oh that's nice the plume is going right over my house...


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I believe we in fact clipped the marathon or Texaco that is 50 feet from the tracks.
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That station seems to be very close to the tracks. Is this the main line or the one that they tend to park trains on? I know nothing about trains in case i don't know what i am talking about.
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Yes, it is the main line through my town and very close to the gas station which is scary. The train luckily caught fire a little further down the road but there was another gas station nearby, but I think it was okay. The firefighters did a fantastic job of containing this considering how large it was. We had over 50 departments from neighboring cities show up including crews from Pittsburgh. Hazmat crew was here and EPA measuring air quality. We are in the side of town that did not have to evacuate but we woke up in the middle the night to the smell of metallic or chemical. A little concerning. It was down around 5 degrees F last night not including windchill.
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Hey man, glad to hear everything is OK. I am from EP, too, but haven't lived there in 30 years. I spoke with my parents and they had the car packed. They also live on the west side of the city, towards New Waterford, so no immediate danger to them other than the smoke plumes. It looks like everything was blowing into PA. Stay safe!
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Not sure if this was from this evening, I figure yesterday

but even just a few hours ago the shit is still blazing!

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Awesome. So are there chlorine rail cars or aren't there?

When the train crashes, the public has a right to know what is on the train. Not just to stay home and try not to breathe.

Informing the public requires a bit more than a reporter standing in front of a fire truck saying. "You can see the lights flashing. You can hear the sirens blaring. ".

They need to provide information critical to making informed decisions about whether or not to evacuate.
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This train is a mixed freight that could have a mix match of chemicals and railcar combinations so the chemical combinations can be endless as well. Will take time to know them all.
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We have computers in this world now. 1 mouse click and you should have the list. Are you telling me that firefighters are risking their lives fighting an unknown fire situation?

Or is it simply that the public is not allowed to know what is happening because some atty group advises that the public only needs to know whether to run or not, no details so as to limit responsibility?

Meanwhile, the good and simple people that work and pay for America have to sit in their homes and get their news from "Formica Davis" as she looks goggle-eyed at the fire trucks and passes along critical survival information like, "look at the flashing lights. Listen to the sirens. You will hear more sirens. Now back to you. "
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What I'm saying is everybody knows what's going on and what's on it, they don't know what the unique combination of chemicals can cause because it's up to 100 plus rail cars, impossible for even a chemist to determine what the Frankenstein mixture of all these railcars created right now.
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Someone posted a Ring video ( tiktok dot com/t/ZTRGhFPfD ) of the eastbound NS train leaving New Waterford, OH, heading towards East Palestine, OH, and it captured one of the train car trucks or wheels in flames as it passed. So, your theory about an improperly set handbrake in the middle of the train is looking more and more likely. Hopefully, you see this post and have more information to share.

As of Sunday morning, my family called and said some of our older relatives were asked to evacuate due to the continued smoldering rail cars and a shift in the wind direction.
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FYI…the evacuation zone around the derailment is STILL IN EFFECT. The sherif just posted a notice threatening arrest and charges for anyone who violates this. This was released literally minutes ago. In the sheriff’s notice, it also mentions “a high probability of toxic gas release and or explosion.”
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Apparently they’re reading a massive temple spike in one of the chemical tanks. Fire/EMS units are being mobilized from all around again. Looks like they ARE expecting a huge explosion shortly.

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Thanks! Keep posting updates.
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City of East Palestine, Ohio posted about an hour ago on their FB page that “the catastrophic failure of the vinyl chlorine tanks is near imminent.”
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OH National Guard activated for the area to assist evacuations.
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Governor of Ohio also directed Ohio State Police, Ohio Emergency Management Agency, and the Ohio EPA to the scene.
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Someone posted a Ring video ( tiktok dot com/t/ZTRGhFPfD ) of the eastbound NS train leaving New Waterford, OH, heading towards East Palestine, OH, and it captured one of the train car trucks or wheels in flames as it passed. So, your theory about an improperly set handbrake in the middle of the train is looking more and more likely. Hopefully, you see this post and have more information to share.

As of Sunday morning, my family called and said some of our older relatives were asked to evacuate due to the continued smoldering rail cars and a shift in the wind direction.


Yes I’m here, it wouldn’t let me quote and post but yes these mixed freight trains like 32N are built track by track in the yard by conductors and sometimes us and the car inspectors miss them it’s impossible to be perfect . What’s unique is this train went all that way from Toledo before it malfunctioned so it’s possible the freezing air kept it cooled off for longer than it usually would.
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Someone posted a Ring video ( tiktok dot com/t/ZTRGhFPfD ) of the eastbound NS train leaving New Waterford, OH, heading towards East Palestine, OH, and it captured one of the train car trucks or wheels in flames as it passed. So, your theory about an improperly set handbrake in the middle of the train is looking more and more likely. Hopefully, you see this post and have more information to share.

As of Sunday morning, my family called and said some of our older relatives were asked to evacuate due to the continued smoldering rail cars and a shift in the wind direction.


Yes I’m here, it wouldn’t let me quote and post but yes these mixed freight trains like 32N are built track by track in the yard by conductors and sometimes us and the car inspectors miss them it’s impossible to be perfect . What’s unique is this train went all that way from Toledo before it malfunctioned so it’s possible the freezing air kept it cooled off for longer than it usually would.
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The situation there seems to have declined dramatically since this morning. Make sure your family is well clear, and quickly.
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This train originated out of Illinois so unless cars were added somewhere in between this could fall in Union Pacific or csx because they inspected the car at its originating terminal, don’t be surprised if one of those two gets dragged into this somehow.
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I just called my parents and spoke with them for a few minutes. Thanks for all of the updates. They live about 2 miles west of the derailment, upwind. But, they have their bags, meds, dog food, some food in the car ready to go, if things worsen and the winds shift.

It seems that actionable, detailed, critical information isn't being presented even after the briefings are held.
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I just called my parents and spoke with them for a few minutes. Thanks for all of the updates. They live about 2 miles west of the derailment, upwind. But, they have their bags, meds, dog food, some food in the car ready to go, if things worsen and the winds shift.

It seems that actionable, detailed, critical information isn't being presented even after the briefings are held.
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Tell them to just proactively go…if/when that vinyl chloride tank explodes, they won’t want to be anywhere near that gas cloud. Sounds like it could go at any time. I pray they, and everyone else, stays safe.
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Oh that's nice the plume is going right over my house...


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Couple counties away and alerts on tv just says civil emergency message Columbiana county no evac or anything found the county sheriff post on f.b.
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Bump for small town doom and on going doom could get really bad
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I believe we in fact clipped the marathon or Texaco that is 50 feet from the tracks.
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That station seems to be very close to the tracks. Is this the main line or the one that they tend to park trains on? I know nothing about trains in case i don't know what i am talking about.
 Quoting: An Ominous Cow Herd


Yes, it is the main line through my town and very close to the gas station which is scary. The train luckily caught fire a little further down the road but there was another gas station nearby, but I think it was okay. The firefighters did a fantastic job of containing this considering how large it was. We had over 50 departments from neighboring cities show up including crews from Pittsburgh. Hazmat crew was here and EPA measuring air quality. We are in the side of town that did not have to evacuate but we woke up in the middle the night to the smell of metallic or chemical. A little concerning. It was down around 5 degrees F last night not including windchill.
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Hey man, glad to hear everything is OK. I am from EP, too, but haven't lived there in 30 years. I spoke with my parents and they had the car packed. They also live on the west side of the city, towards New Waterford, so no immediate danger to them other than the smoke plumes. It looks like everything was blowing into PA. Stay safe!
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Thanks, we decided to evacuate as we were just outside of the one mile zone and didn’t want to take any chances. Things could get bad, so I hope your parents are safe.
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Oh that's nice the plume is going right over my house...


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Your alil north of myself hf
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Yup watching close right now. My little Brother lives 3 mi from this in OH
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I just read on Twitter that the command center was relocated from the fire department to the high school. That can't be good.

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Anyone know how many miles out before the smoke will no longer be a threat? 50 or 100 or something?
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An explosion will release phosgene gas.

“Phosgene, which smells like moldy hay, is also an irritant but six times more deadly than chlorine gas.

Phosgene is also a much stealthier weapon: it’s colorless, and soldiers did not at first know they had received a fatal dose. After a day or two, victims’ lungs would fill with fluid, and they would slowly suffocate in an agonizing death.

Although the Germans were the first to use phosgene on the battlefield, it became the primary chemical weapon of the Allies. Phosgene was responsible for 85% of chemical-weapons fatalities during World War I.”
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Hope americans died





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