Can I get some opinions on what exactly you think UFOs are? (Very interesting Update coming page 10 bear with me)

Exactly, I read through the thread and it seemed like one poster was putting it together on the fly, much like I tend to do when I focus on things, so I commented. This began for me a few weeks back in a discussion pertaining to density vs dimension. I do not see why consciousness or time do not posses polarity, which is the appearance of opposition. Consider going forward or backward in time when in reality all time exists in the here and now. Consciousness having polarity has already been explained and examples given, we are trapped in these dichotomies resulting in unintegrated humans not living in the here and now, which is where our power resides.

No issues here friend, my ignorance knows no bounds. I like to use opportunities such as these to hopefully lessen my ignorance in discussion with other like minded people. I actually see it as how we can create a better path forward for humanity, learning from each other, under(inner)standing what we learn and then attaining wisdom in our actions based on the former two.

Love and blessings to you too.

thank you, i may do that! but let me leave you with this, do you think that time and consciousness are something that transcends dimensionality? and if so, if consciousness and time transcend dimensionality, does that leave open a plausible possibility for a connection between ufo's and time and consciousness? lol

Time is an illusion, I do not feel it has dimension. It was recently said to me that "time" is the 4th dimension and can be represented by a tunnel. I have experienced a tunnel twice, of which I bailed out of. It was more like a choice than something that left me saying "so that is what time is like". So dimensions to me are length, width, height and spirit, time being an aspect of spirit as it has no dimension.

Marko Rodin and vortex math show how there is the spiritual (3,6,9) and the physical or dimension (1,2,4,5,7,8) and the structure is toroid. So THE ONE or the universe has a finite, toroid structure to it. The infinite expressions are shown in the repeating patterns inherent in both spiritual and physical expressions of The One. In one of his models, he places the 9 over the 0, which I interpret as the axis of consciousness. Realms or layers, hence the concept of raising or lowering of consciousness.

In other words, dimension IS consciousness, there is nothing to transcend. The physical aspect of reality is begotten from the non physical and it is all expressions of The One or Greater Consciousness Field.

The connection between ufo and consciousness & time is that those who create and operate these constructs understand consciousness and time on a level that we currently are being manipulated not to, by consent. We are 4th density beings, the negative aspect of this phenomena is also 4th density in its operations. However if we consider the Hidden Hand material, we might consider the adversary to be a 6th density beings incarnated to 4th density playing the role of manipulator to help evolve us consciously. This is why they manipulate us into violating our own free will and even their own to do it as the consequences for this manipulation is great. See the principle of cause and effect or more commonly referred to as karma.

So the negative aspect of this phenomena that I have experienced are 4th density (greys, reps,demons,devils etc etc) while the positive aspect are higher yet 5th+ (light beings, angels etc etc). This is the confusing aspect, density versus dimension, one is limited to the physical aspect (dimension) while the other (density) encompasses physical & non physical and both (den/dim) are consciousness.

All this being said, this is coming from our current perspective of 4th density, lower conscious beings. If we raise our consciousness up, individually, we may perceive dimension in the higher densities. Consider our interactions with entheogens or even the dream world where our experiences appear to have dimension to them. As our consciousness raises up, the higher vibrating world that we can not perceive is now more in resonance and thus takes on a physical state, or having dimension.

Which again points to the confusion of density vs dimension as we are not clarifying the starting point and current level of consciousness, if it were possible to do so. This would explain why many people see things that others do not, some of us are operating at a higher level of consciousness. We often label this as hallucination or call someone crazy because they see things we do not. These poor people become outcasts, when in times past they would have been shamans or seers.

It is a complicated mess, by design as our potential next step requires a moral sovereign aspect that needs to be adopted as a way of life to be able to operate and be accepted in the higher densities. This 4th density is most likely a cut off, where many of these opposing constructs such as good and evil exist. I can only imagine the next stop will have it's own set of rules and physics to learn, understand and develop wisdom from.

" As our consciousness raises up, the higher vibrating world that we can not perceive is now more in resonance and thus takes on a physical state, or having dimension."

This is expressed incorrectly, as we would be coming into resonance with the higher vibration. Meaning in the higher vibration, the dimension already exists, we are now able to perceive it. The higher vibration is not manifesting physically, it is we who would now be perceiving it as such. It is not changing, we are, so my wording in the quoted paragraph was a failure to properly express the concept.

i disagree, a dimension is akin to a higgs field, empty or full, it is a place holder.

your portrayal of consciousness as an angel or a dims{devils) is embedded deeply in many beliefs.

but again, consciousness, as time as no polarity! lol

that's not to say that polarities don't exist! they do, as is evident in the duality awareness pattern of this material existence! and in this existence awareness of polarities cannot be subscribed to as consciousness! lol

time in this existence is subscribe to as day and night, these are merely periods of time that ingrain a pattern, that perceives time with a beginning and end! lol

what you can't say, is that awareness of good and evil is consciousness! lol

then you get fall into a rabbit hole where arguments can be made for ufo's, being good or evil. and allow yourself to be manipulated by a whole host of contradicting rationalizations!

lol

i would say time and consciousness are not G-d but manifestations of G-d! and as such they possess the Divine Property of Singularity! lol

ref:
I've posted the details on this a few times over the years
short version: in the mid 60s my friend and I saw several objects
moving thru a 'window' in the sky back n forth, sometimes
more than one at time. when they reached the invisible border
they simply vanished. the objects were at a great distance but
basically a globe with a center band (think Saturn-ish) that appeared
to be a bright glowing orange or bronze color.

btw - a couple years later the area under the event window
exploded in the worst 'mining disaster' in modern US history.

glad i caught it! lol

UFO's are just that, UFO's.

If you think they're from some advanced civilization then why is there never any proof?

It's all hype and fantasy to sell shit.

Absolute b.s.

Let me know when we shoot one down.

i wonder if a large cme would do the job! lol

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THE GREAT 1947 SUNSPOT, ROSWELL,
AND CORONAL MASS EJECTIONS

chinese spy balloons

They are demonic deceptions created to grab our attention and make us curious.

Bear with me as I write this up. It may go into two or three posts due to the three link IMGUR rule (or IP b@n)(for me at least)

I’ll be updating the thread title to update. But as I say, this won’t be completed for the short while it takes to put across.

I believe this is pin worthy. I’ll leave that to anyone able to do so.

Here is one of my opinions on what they are. These are not clouds up above, it is Aether. Whether the actual objects create it or can manipulate it, this aether is "trying" to block out the light from the sun and the moon.


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I do not know when this aether came, and am also unsure if it is of this planet or it isn't. A terrestrial explanation could be all the elements present in the many volcano eruptions mixing with our atmosphere, or conversely, we are in a spot in the galaxy where this Aether is more concentrated than previously.

Below is a more typical example- A ship with multiple "appendages" that travels from above the close-to-full moon down towards the bottom right.

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Ever notice how some of the "clouds" above tend to follow the sun and/or moon? Look up for a bit on a day where it's clear, it will not take long.

"
Ezekiel 32:7

“And when I extinguish you,
I will cover the heavens and darken their stars;
I will cover the sun with a cloud
And the moon will not give its light.

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"
Luke 23:45
Verse Concepts
because the sun was obscured; and the veil of the temple was torn in two.

Source: [link to bible.knowing-jesus.com (secure)]

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The stuff I usually post on my threads I consider as essential. Such as the comet thread linked previously. So whether it goes against my better judgment, the desire to share overrules that or anything else.

What I’m sharing here isn’t so essential. But actually very important, as I’m hoping you’ll realize after.

You’ll also probably gather why I’ve held back on posting this, without needing an explanation as to why

Getting into it

Perhaps. 23 years ago. In my rave days. I and a friend indulged in some ‘magic beer’ (made up word) I will leave certain parts vague. You are sharp enough to connect the dots.

This occasion was unlike any other time we had experienced. Visuals that is.

What we saw were scales on each others face. So nose and brow ridge. I’ll say now reptilian. But at the time I didn’t know what I do now. So they were just scales.

This was a fair time ago. Memory fades. Also the nature of these experiences are also associated with memory loss.

But this was such a notable XP it’s etched in my mind in part.

Quickly say, the reason this is being included here now? Is it is relevant to UFOs and their nature, or at least offering insight into their ability which has been touched upon. So it’s on topic. Plus the thread has some legs. It makes sense to introduce this now I feel

So these scales I recall were perfectly aligned no gaps. Symmetrical. I do not remember how many there were though. So the drawing below is accurate, but rough in some way too.

The scales were pearlescent. You all know what that is. Fee free to google it. The classic pearl colour. Lilacs. Greens. Whites.

I have made a drawing. I have attempted to recreate this effect. But it is in no way a true depiction of what I saw! I tried my best.

As for the eyebrows? I cannot remember if they were present or not? Could easily have been? May not have been? Simply don’t recall that. All I know is we saw on each other perfect symmetrical pearlescent scales.

Also accompanied by speckles/sparkles under the eyes.

In no way scary. This went down as up there with my top weird XPs and there are a few! It was awe inspiring. We were giggling like kids and touching each others faces. Actually it did have a feminine aspect to it.

Yes this is anecdotal. But if it’s coming from anyone to be taken seriously it’s me. I walk the walk on here and provide the goods in many of my threads.

So many years went by. Many years. This XP was forgotten about. I have had visuals many times. Back then I mean. I’m not a raver now lol. But this XP was a one off.

So perhaps about 6 years ago. It occurred to me again. I looked online on certain forums related to raving shall see say. To my surprise. Many people had actually seen the same thing!

6 years ago I was by this time very acquainted with what we call conspiracies. All the topics.

I also believe I knew about rh- being in my family at this time and the reptilian connection. So I quickly connected some dots. And thought back to the XP 23 odd years ago.

I will tell you what my conclusion is as I work through this

Here’s the drawing. This is not representative of me btw hehe

https://imgur.com/GYZ86Sy

What I’ll do is post this in different posts. Just in case it doesn’t go through and I lose the post after the effort. That happens and isn’t pleasant when it does. Just to be sure I’ll do this in increments

I’ll Go ahead and say, what I have just wrote is intriguing enough as it is. We aren’t done. After considering this XP again and sharing it. I have now made a few more connections.


ETA

I have also picked out slit eyes in a few pics of my own. Me

Another aspect I almost forgot

One pic was very compelling. I would post the image. But I do not have it.

My opinion in that instance and in general on the subject? It is a momentary thing that generally happens so quick most can’t pick it up face to face. Fractions of a second. But technology like cameras etc has allowed a means to notice it

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So fellow top right (left page) is displaying something on par with what I saw.

This is via Icke’s book. These are drawings from witness accounts.

In these instances they claim to have seen full Blood reppies. What I saw represented what we could call a hybrid look.

The only reason to include this image is to use top right image as another point of reference to what I saw. So scales on the brow and nose ridge

https://imgur.com/8FYpWlx

I’m not a trekkie. I do like sci fi’s. But I’m not well up on them. The two characters here are caradasians apparently. I knew somewhere along the line I had seen some character in some show with the scales on the nose and brow. Couldn’t remember who or where? So I’ve searched online and all I could find were these Guys.

If there’s anyone who knows a better example? Please link up and I’ll add the images in. For now this will do. Although it isn’t a completely accurate depiction. The drawing in the first post above. Plus the image above in this post (combined) give you a truer idea. This is just pushing the appearance across some more

https://imgur.com/20gTOZD

There’s also an image from the series “ V”^ I will refer back to that in the next post

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I’ll add this image then move onto the final post, where I’ll add the final three images

You’re all familiar with the movie ‘they live’

Tbh I may have seen this once. I’m very rusty on it. Know the basics. I checked out a synopsis to make sure I would get the details right when making this post. Actually I’ll include a screen shot from the synopsis

https://imgur.com/cqnCotV

Continued

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Annoyingly it won’t let the post go through

So I’m doing the Imgur trick

This will now have to go into a few more posts

https://imgur.com/aekmGHK

Images here are in the order they are in the quoted post above

Starting with a synopsis highlight from ‘they live’

https://imgur.com/nKhGXGR

https://imgur.com/renHwPW

https://imgur.com/p5Y7iO8

https://imgur.com/oFb5kmp

https://imgur.com/mgTESIR

So this is some of the highest grade you’ll encounter. Also add to this my linked threads in this thread. These are my tangible gifts to this forum. You now know who you are.

Should you accept it

As many have witnessed on this forum.

It is a slippy tight rope walk sharing some of the info I and others have. Without going full on you know what

I don't consider myself better than anyone else. But what I have seen and experienced is something I have to pass on.

It’s clear to see this is for a reason.

I have found out some of the reasons. I don’t believe I know them all.

Tell me what you mean by shine a light at the top of my head? I’m curious on that?

There is zero reason for me to think my XPs are demonic. BUT I did know a Guy in a Similar position to me. I.e. being followed everywhere for years. He was US ex military. Btw I’ve posted his accounts and video of a blue UFO (filmed via a telescope) over a MILAB in the Appalachians. (This is all included in my linked thread about UFOs I believe)(if you can’t find it I’ll tell the accounts again)

His XP and photo evidence of what was being done at these MILABS (that I’ve seen) confirm what Phil Schneider spoke of. So yes that is very inline with demonic in his case

I accept both polarities are at play. One divine. One demonic.

As for me paying attention? The first case I clearly remember is 2009. After that date I can clearly say I’ve noted being followed everywhere. Likely I did see them pre 2009 hence me noticing it and being aware on that date. It’s my Dad that reminded me I used to point these craft out to him when I was a very young boy when they followed us up the motorway (freeway) when we used to go up north.

It is Trueman show stuff